Ship Simulator

English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Stuart2007 on June 17, 2007, 12:10:12

Title: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Stuart2007 on June 17, 2007, 12:10:12
Ship leaving half the superstructure after going under a low estuary bridge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47L3kWCsx0&mode=related&search=

I really like the way the cameraman went to help and put down his camera and thought that calling the emergency services was much more important than making a film...

Stu
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Season on June 17, 2007, 12:11:42
Saw that before  :o

Also check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p8AJ93Wh00
Fake, I think.
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Stuart2007 on June 17, 2007, 12:14:25
Looks pretty convincing to me. If it is fake, its well done.

But the tug doesn't look damaged after it rights itself. So maybe.

Stu
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Captain Davies on June 17, 2007, 12:23:25
I bet the bridge of that ship cleared in seconds!
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Eemspoort on June 17, 2007, 14:50:38
The Bridge-master wasn't watching carefully. He lowered the bridge to soon, that was the problem.
Watch the movie again, and you can see the bridge lowering, before the deckhouse is under it. After the ship crashes into the bridge, he tries to rise the bridge again. Ofcourse it could be a malfunction of the bridge.

Since a ship doesn't have brakes, the only thing the captain could do is abandon the wheel-house, leaving the ship uncontrolable. There are back-up controlls for the engine, i don't know if they have them for the rudder as well. So the engineer could stop the engine, but that's all.

All in all, it's to bad these things happen, but what can you do?
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Captain Davies on June 17, 2007, 15:28:10
There are back-up controlls for the engine, i don't know if they have them for the rudder as well. So the engineer could stop the engine, but that's all.

Surely even the largest ships have some sort of tiller system?
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Eemspoort on June 17, 2007, 15:40:22
Well, my geuss is, sea-ships have a back-up-controll for ruder, but on inland-vessels, when you wreck the wheelhouse, it's over and don with (Mostly. Maybe there are ships who have back-up). In my case, i can controll the main-engine manualy in the engine-room, but i can't controll the rudder anymore.
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: mporter on June 18, 2007, 02:25:24
Well, my geuss is, sea-ships have a back-up-controll for ruder, but on inland-vessels, when you wreck the wheelhouse, it's over and don with (Mostly. Maybe there are ships who have back-up). In my case, i can controll the main-engine manualy in the engine-room, but i can't controll the rudder anymore.

Sea-going ships in the US, classed under American Bureau of Shipping, are required to have some kind of emergency steering, and I think other classification societies have similar requirements.  But a manual tiller wouldn't be much use on a vessel of that size. And by the time the fire (probably electrical in origin?) breaks out, any secondary control system would be pretty doubtful.

Cheers,
Michael
Title: Re: Ouch. Bet this hurt...
Post by: Stuart2007 on June 18, 2007, 11:03:04
I was on a ferry years ago (an old BR/Sealink... A saint if I remember) and that was being steered from the engine control room. Just a couple of simple buttons to engage a hydraulic motor on the tiller and we were only a few feet above the keel- a long way from the bridge.

So, a local controlled tiller is just as good.

Stu