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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: michael_taal on March 30, 2012, 21:33:10

Title: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: michael_taal on March 30, 2012, 21:33:10
I just received an email from marinetraffic that on March the 30th 2012 at 7:36 PM the nisshin maru arrived at Japan so it is now 100% that Sea Shepherd did it for the 2nd time in  a row.

congrats to Sea Shepherd :2thumbs:
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: Rbsanford on March 30, 2012, 23:41:29
honestly i don't see why people should try to stop whaling. i mean really... it only hurst the whales and even if they go extinct, nothing will happen.

but ok if you think Sea Shepherd is doing something good by taking away jobs to innocent people.
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: danny on March 30, 2012, 23:59:40
honestly i don't see why people should try to stop whaling. i mean really... it only hurst the whales and even if they go extinct, nothing will happen.

but ok if you think Sea Shepherd is doing something good by taking away jobs to innocent people.

I have disagree with your "even if they go extinct nothing will happen" statement. Whales are part of a foodchain, now, foodchains are very fragile things. A bit like ships. Ships need all crew to be working, so the ship can fuction. If you remove a crew member, the entire ship grounds to a hault. The same can be said for foodchains and whales. If you remove the whale from the foodchain, the foodchain collapses. This collapse not only endangers the animals on that foodchain, but endagers other foodchains...
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: dexter7 on March 31, 2012, 12:48:28
I have disagree with your "even if they go extinct nothing will happen" statement. Whales are part of a foodchain, now, foodchains are very fragile things. A bit like ships. Ships need all crew to be working, so the ship can fuction. If you remove a crew member, the entire ship grounds to a hault. The same can be said for foodchains and whales. If you remove the whale from the foodchain, the foodchain collapses. This collapse not only endangers the animals on that foodchain, but endagers other foodchains...
Well Said. :2thumbs:
This collapse not only endangers the animals on that foodchain, but endagers other foodchains...
Which might even endanger humans! :o
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: Captain Cadet on April 02, 2012, 17:50:36
I have disagree with your "even if they go extinct nothing will happen" statement. Whales are part of a foodchain, now, foodchains are very fragile things. A bit like ships. Ships need all crew to be working, so the ship can fuction. If you remove a crew member, the entire ship grounds to a hault. The same can be said for foodchains and whales. If you remove the whale from the foodchain, the foodchain collapses. This collapse not only endangers the animals on that foodchain, but endagers other foodchains...
if you think about it the same thing happens to cows,sheep and chickens
both killed for the meat.
(sent from my fixed laptop)
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: danny on April 02, 2012, 18:07:58
if you think about it the same thing happens to cows,sheep and chickens
both killed for the meat.
(sent from my fixed laptop)
Cows, sheep and chickens are bread specially to be eaten. When farmed, they are almost entirely isolated from the foodchain(s).
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: Captain Cadet on April 02, 2012, 18:17:41
Cows, sheep and chickens are bread specially to be eaten. When farmed, they are almost entirely isolated from the foodchain(s).
im just sitting on the fence here to make it clear
but how much can 1 whale damage the foodchane?
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: danny on April 02, 2012, 20:09:54
Well, if you remove 1 whale, then your not only reducing the amount of whales that are in existance, but if that whale hasn't been able to "get busy" yet then the chances are you've also prevented a baby whale from being born. and, put simply - No babies = extinction.
Title: Re: nisshin maru arrived at Yokohama, Japan
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 02, 2012, 23:05:36
Danny is quite correct on this point.

But may I ask at what point do we humans decide whether or not it is acceptable to see a species extinct?

Every time people try to manipulate nature, we come off worst.

"damaging the foodchane" [sic] (from capt cadet perspective) -why should you view this from the perspective of how it harms humans? Why are we so damned important?

(well I might be, but the other 6.5 billion aren't ;) )