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English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => General discussions => Topic started by: pet1408 on December 19, 2011, 16:38:13

Title: tugs at work
Post by: pet1408 on December 19, 2011, 16:38:13

In the US when a tug has a tow and it has his lights on IT has the right of way over ALL vessels! In your sim the tug needs to be armed! !:)

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: jibemorel on December 19, 2011, 18:10:07

Nope every sea going vessel have to apply Colreg 1972 wether she is sailing in US or not. Can you imagine the mess if every country start to set it's own rules.

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: Gab on December 19, 2011, 18:25:46

Hello,

Actually a tug towing and the towed ship would be considered as 'Vessel with restricted maneuverability', which means pet1408 is right, or almost right.  ;)
Have a look here, credits to Ballast.  :2thumbs:

Quote from: Ballast

Rule 18 – right of way – The right of way order is:
• Power driven vessel.
• Sailing vessel.
• Fishing vessel (engaged in fishing, so not when she’s sailing from and towards the fishing grounds!)
• Vessel with restricted maneuverability. [tugs on duty]
• Vessel not under command.
For example; this means that a Vermaas should give way to a fishing vessel, but a fishing vessel gives way to the Sherpa towing a rig with restricted maneuverability or a laden Latitude sailing in a narrow fairway. .

http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,20837.0.html

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: jibemorel on December 20, 2011, 02:54:02

At sea there is no almost right. There is only right or wrong.

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: Gab on December 20, 2011, 04:27:15

True, but this is just for Ship Simulator purpose, so errors can be made, since not everyone are working on this domain. A lot of people are here for fun, and ask questions or confirmations for personnal knowledge only. In this context, being 'almost right' can be just fine for them.  ;)

The answer you brought wasn't false, but incomplete. If you say ''you are incorrect, they follow the collision regulation'', it doesn't really help...

Although, if you say ''You are incorrect, they follow the collision regulation, which states that...'', it would bring a much more complete answer.  ;)

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: jibemorel on December 20, 2011, 10:26:03

^^Indeed^^

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: evyse on January 05, 2012, 17:28:44

I completely forgot about traffic regulations when I started playing simulated. I used to know rules for an outboard fishing boat but now I want to make sure I don't make a faux pas during multiplay.

COLREGS is written in pretty easy to understand language but I wonder if it would be worth it for me to excavate the rules in a numbered list for those who are interested in using them in-game?

Perhaps pet1408 is referring to this:
"(c) Nothing in these Rules shall interfere with the operation of any special rule made by the Government of any State with respect to additional station or signal lights, shapes or whistle signals for ships of war and vessels proceeding under convoy,"

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: Gab on January 06, 2012, 16:42:17

Quote from: evyse on January 05, 2012, 17:28:44

I wonder if it would be worth it for me to excavate the rules in a numbered list for those who are interested in using them in-game?

Ballast already did that, and it was certainly a wonderful idea!  :2thumbs:

Here's the link again. (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,20837.0.html)

Title: Re: tugs at work
Post by: evyse on January 06, 2012, 19:14:34

Oh that's quite a useful post! Thanks!