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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Wave Music on August 10, 2011, 18:16:09

Title: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Wave Music on August 10, 2011, 18:16:09: What's that new tendency to make some new ships with 2 bridges, one above another? The first time I saw such thing was Spliethoff's Donaugracht in our port, a vessel like this:

(http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/5/9/5/1078595.jpg)

I understand she's a ~ heavy lift ship and possibly 2nd bridge is for the cases of very obstructing cargo on deck (like on Hansa's Trifels (http://www.ddghansa-shipsphotos.de/trifels412.jpg)) but that bridge is just next deck above the main one + has like a 360 degrees view.

And what about these?

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=615292
http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo-625928-Esnaad+710

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1324396
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1050506
Landing the UFO, haha
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: VirtualSkipper on August 10, 2011, 18:45:00: I had the idea that the bridge is too small to for also people who are on watch, so they built an floor on the bridge.
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Bottman on August 10, 2011, 19:01:23: Hi Wave Music,

guess most of your linked pictures even show another deck for observation means, not for another fully equipped bridge/wheelhouse. On the older ships, the reason seems to be the higher deck load, which stops the necessary view ahead. That wasn't foreseeable when the ships were build.
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Rbsanford on August 10, 2011, 19:11:42: awesome yacht its carrying. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Wave Music on August 10, 2011, 19:23:53: (http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/6/1/6/954616.jpg)

This one has even a 2nd floor of bridge wings.
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Rbsanford on August 11, 2011, 00:57:01: awww, theres no yacht. :( :'( :C
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: saltydog on August 11, 2011, 01:07:56: I think the top bridge is where they keep the monkeys.. ;)
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: dexter7 on August 11, 2011, 04:10:02: I'm sure this big guy won't fit in it!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Img_kingkong1.jpg)
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Traddles on August 11, 2011, 11:45:19: Quote from: saltydog on August 11, 2011, 01:07:56
I think the top bridge is where they keep the monkeys.. ;)
More commonly known as the "Monkey Island" on British ships. ::) :doh: To return to topic though. The Liberty ships built during WW2 in the USA had, on the monkey island, a complete duplicate set of, engine room telegraph, steering wheel, and of course the standard compass, such that the vessel could be fully controlled from up there if needed. Thus nothing particularly new about the concept, it being nearly 70 years ago that these vessels were built. Attached is a picture of one such ship I sailed on. Very often, on entering our home port of Liverpool the pilot would request that we would operate from up there as he had a very much clearer view of things than below in the wheelhouse. It should be noted that the monkey island is completely exposed, no fancy enclosed areas with posh windows! :evil:

Angus.
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Wave Music on August 19, 2011, 18:36:48: What about this one? Absolutely the same bridges one above another - it's like 2 meters of height is a big difference?

(http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/3/1/6/1375613.jpg)
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: maalle heitetty kippari on August 19, 2011, 19:08:12: (http://static.iltalehti.fi/turku/uusielamaMH_tu.jpg)
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Rbsanford on August 19, 2011, 19:12:01: finnjet?
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: maalle heitetty kippari on August 19, 2011, 19:12:26: Yes
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Rbsanford on August 19, 2011, 19:13:12: i love that ferry.

too bad she's dead (scrapped). :'(
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: maalle heitetty kippari on August 19, 2011, 19:14:32: I think it was best ship which has ever been :(
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: danny on August 19, 2011, 19:32:14: I thought the top deck on the finnjet was a viewing area, not a bridge?
I aggree that she was the best ship to grace the oceans. May the company that sold her to the scrappers Forever feel her pain.
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Rbsanford on August 19, 2011, 19:35:00: i thought the top deck was the bridge and the lower one was some kind of lounge or viewing area
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Ballast on August 19, 2011, 20:55:14: The Donaugracht, and all other D vessels from Spliethoff are equipped to sail with 12 students + instructor. The students have their own bridge so they wont interfere the OOW with the actual navigation. Google for 'I go 2 sea' project for more info ;)
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Wave Music on August 19, 2011, 21:05:37: Thanks, Ballast. Explains the thing a lot!
Any idea about the Havila Phoenix's 2nd bridge that's just perfect for watching seagulls than what's on the water & on deck?
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: Rbsanford on August 19, 2011, 21:06:26: ok, so finnjet was also a training ship?
Title: Re: Double bridges on ships
Post by: saltydog on August 19, 2011, 22:02:46: Here's (http://www.havila.no/download.asp?object_id=D7D57BB4FF2C4999BBC334E06B60383B) a pdf file of the Havila Phoenix, WM ;)