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Title: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 05, 2011, 16:04:19: Hi

Had a thought that we don't have a freight ferry in SSE, so I thought it would be interesting to convert a "Half-Sister" of the Channel Queen into a Freight-Only version.

So thus we have... the mv Channel Freighter

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c4.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c5.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c6.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c7.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c8.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c9.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c10.jpg)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: VirtualSkipper on August 05, 2011, 16:15:20: Wow, very nice model and rendering! :thumbs:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: MokMok on August 05, 2011, 20:14:40: A very nice model of the Channel Freighter. It is very reminiscent to the Landing Platform Docks of the Royal Dutch Navy. The Hr.Ms. Rotterdam L800 and the Hr.Ms. Johan de Witt L801.

Hr.Ms. Rotterdam L800:

(http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11758.0;attach=37489;image)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: RYAN123 on August 06, 2011, 22:25:19: Nicee :2thumbs: :thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: clanky on August 07, 2011, 09:48:00: Looks good TFM.

If it's freight only it would almost certainly not be double deck or double end loading, I would consider losing the bow door / cow catcher and the cat flap and replacing them with internal ramp between main and upper freight decks. Making her stern ramp only loading (didn't notice does she have a ramp or a door? a freight ferry would normally have a ramp)

Is she going to carry drivers as well or only drop trailers, accomodation looks about right for somewhere in the region of 100 drivers.

A freight only ferry wouldn't have 3 screws I would ditch either the centre or the 2 outer ones.

Bow rudders are evil, make it go away, it gives me cold sweats.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 07, 2011, 14:38:14: AH OK thanks for the tips :)

I was going for a general freighter like the Gardenia/European Seaway/Seafrance NPC/Cotentin - these are all double deck loaders

It was also fitted with doors (for Dover-Calais :doh:)

I will ditch the centre prop though, and see how I can change the bow from the current rudder
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: 1J1 on August 07, 2011, 16:35:35: If that's in Sketchup then I'd say it's a pretty cool looking ferry there!
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 07, 2011, 17:05:44: All my models are done in Sketchup :)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: clanky on August 08, 2011, 14:11:47: Quote from: The Ferry Man on August 07, 2011, 14:38:14
AH OK thanks for the tips :)

I was going for a general freighter like the Gardenia/European Seaway/Seafrance NPC/Cotentin - these are all double deck loaders

It was also fitted with doors (for Dover-Calais :doh:)

I will ditch the centre prop though, and see how I can change the bow from the current rudder

WOW, you learn something new every day, I didn't even know that there were freight only ferries running out of dover, maybe I should have looked out of the wiindow occasionally when I was down there!
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: MokMok on August 08, 2011, 14:42:45: @The Ferry Man:
I don't see any bulbouw bow on your nice ship. Why doesn't she has any bulbouw bow? She has bow rudders instead of a bulbous bow.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Bottman on August 08, 2011, 14:51:12: Quote from: MokMok on August 08, 2011, 14:42:45
@The Ferry Man:
I don't see any bulbouw bow on your nice ship. Why doesn't she has any bulbouw bow? She has bow rudders instead of a bulbous bow.
Well, there are ferries with both bow rudder and bulbous bow...the Scandlines MECKLENBURG-VORPOMMERN has for example.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 08, 2011, 15:26:18: Quote from: MokMok on August 08, 2011, 14:42:45
@The Ferry Man:
I don't see any bulbouw bow on your nice ship. Why doesn't she has any bulbouw bow? She has bow rudders instead of a bulbous bow.

Well she is the sister of the Channel Queen, who had a "Pride of Dover" Class Hull design (Triple Prop and Bow Rudder) As I thought this is a different type of vessel comp[are to what is currently in game :)

Ooh - that is interesting Bottman :)

I never knew that - found a picture of it on wikipedia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Ferry_Mecklenburg-Vorpommern_Dock.jpg

Intriguing...
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 10, 2011, 20:43:08: OK Update: nearly complete now*

*In fact slightly updated since... now has funnel light mast and funnel is raised up more

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c11.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c12.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c13.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-c14.jpg)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 17:16:30: Paintbrushes have been out, with a "artists impression"

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-1.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-2.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-3.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-4.jpg)

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-5.jpg)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: dexter7 on August 11, 2011, 17:17:39: nice :thumbs:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 11, 2011, 17:20:53: She looks great TFM!
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 17:23:44: You should write her name in the fashion of captain of ZUGA.
I like it! :thumbs:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 17:31:43: Ferryman, it's maybe all dandy and shining, but don't you think that the bow doesn't provide enough buoyancy to carry the heavy accommodation?
You know, the designers of, say, Oleander were more sagacious in that.

(http://www.onboardpoferries.com/fleetimages/archive/poslpicardy/poslpicardy.png)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 17:36:19: Hmm - thats a interesting point...
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: clanky on August 11, 2011, 18:42:49: See now, if you were to get rid of that darned bow rudder and give her a proper bulbous bow ;D
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 18:43:59: bulbous bows are boring though... xD
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 18:46:20: Quote from: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 18:43:59
bulbous bows are boring though... xD

Just accept you can't make them.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: clanky on August 11, 2011, 18:48:07: To be honest she would probably have plenty of bouyancy forward, the weight of the accommodation isn't that bad compared to the machinery aft.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 18:49:26: I can... from time to time (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,25346.0.html)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 19:21:47: Old Hull:

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighter-2.jpg)

New improved Hull:

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighterHullTest.jpg)

Any better do you think?
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: danny on August 11, 2011, 19:27:49: Great! i'd loose the bow rudder and the strange thing that makes the ship look likes shes sticking her tongue out :doh:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 19:31:31: The Cowcatcher?

Would have hard time berthing in Calais without it though... :doh:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 19:41:58: Quote from: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 19:21:47
New improved Hull:

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ferry%20Models/Channel%20Freighter/ChannelFreighterHullTest.jpg)

Any better do you think?

Much better!
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 19:42:29: Excellent

Better space for a bow thruster too ;D
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 19:47:24: But what about that place for the rescue boat near the bow, I mean I never seen / don't remember seeing something like that on real ones. The rescue zone is usually in the middle & all that...
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: maalle heitetty kippari on August 11, 2011, 20:09:56: Looks really great :thumbs:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 20:11:50: Wave Music:

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=867323

;)

Thanks Maalle :)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 20:22:11: Thanks Ferryman, it's Ok if I fail in front of ferry lords.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 20:24:19: Quote from: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 20:22:11
Thanks Maalle, it's Ok if I fail in front of ferry lords.

huh?
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 11, 2011, 20:29:03: Fix'd.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 11, 2011, 20:33:02: Ahh... easy mistake to make :doh:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: clanky on August 12, 2011, 08:11:27: Quote from: danny on August 11, 2011, 19:27:49
I'd loose the bow rudder

Quote from: danny on August 11, 2011, 19:27:49
I'd loose the bow rudder

Quote from: danny on August 11, 2011, 19:27:49
I'd loose the bow rudder

Quote from: danny on August 11, 2011, 19:27:49
I'd loose the bow rudder

Quote from: danny on August 11, 2011, 19:27:49
I'd loose the bow rudder
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 12, 2011, 11:22:20: Are you trying to tell me something...? :doh:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 12, 2011, 11:30:06: I think he said that you need to keep the bow rudder? :doh:
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 12, 2011, 18:29:38: Frankly ~~speaking~~ telling, the bow rudder makes this ship look hideous.
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 12, 2011, 18:54:57: Quote from: Wave Music on August 12, 2011, 18:29:38
Frankly ~~speaking~~ telling, the bow rudder makes this ship look hideous.

Well you won;t see it when its in the water ;)
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 12, 2011, 18:58:14: But it will always spin in the mind: "The model is great but I know she HAS that ugly thingy down there that spoils the whole strawberry about this ferry! :P "
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 12, 2011, 18:59:49: ::)

You will appreciate it when reversing though...
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: Wave Music on August 12, 2011, 19:05:07: I will neither use that ugly outgrowth nor appreciate it's presence at all, just on principle!
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 12, 2011, 19:09:20: Quote from: Wave Music on August 12, 2011, 19:05:07
I will neither use that ugly outgrowth nor appreciate it's presence at all, just on principle!

::)

Well its up to you...

I can do a big swing with it ;D
Title: Re: mv Channel Freighter (Half-Sister of Channel Queen) Freight Ferry
Post by: marcstrat on February 24, 2013, 20:33:32: great work, you've done
Marc