Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => The Chat Lounge => Topic started by: dexter7 on April 19, 2011, 02:03:38
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can this computer run SSE? I'm going to buy it
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&series_name=G62m_series&aoid=35252#defaultAnchor
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can this computer run SSE? I'm going to buy it
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&series_name=G62m_series&aoid=35252#defaultAnchor
A notebook, is the first sing that is not the computer for SSE. But do you prefer laptops over desktops?
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yes mate (third mate) i do prefer laptops and i want a windows 7 do you know of one thats up to it?
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yes mate (third mate) i do prefer laptops and i want a windows 7 do you know of one thats up to it?
Ok, no probs....laptops are not the best choice still, unless you know where you can find a good one which is tricky. How much are you willing to spend?
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400$ at the most
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If I was you, you would get far much better performance out of a desktop, and if you are looking for a computer to run SSE, laptops would be my last choice. :-\
Answer to your question, That laptop isn't really up to it. Minimum specs for processors are 3.0GHz, laptop is 2.2GHz (and thats even if you go for that particular processor on that page). If you go for the 3GB of RAM (free upgrade) then you'd be scraping it, would be better if you went for the 4GB. And finally, the graphics is meant for office work not designed for usage with games.
I converted 400$ to around £246, I know in the UK atleast that's not a huge amount, and your best bet is getting a desktop. :-\
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Yeah, I was gonna say get an Alienware x17 for 1.5k. It sounds to me like you are serious about a good machine to run this thing. Obviously you want a great computer for a low price, but since we are talking about SSE here a desktop is the only option. A decent desktop for me it was 1.2k, it looks like you have alot of saving up to do, i mean the last thing you want is to spend 400$ on a computer who won't run SSE in style...unlesss Mad_Fred has an idea
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what would be a good enough graphics card for SSE?
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Hello Dexter,
Your budget of $400 is a bit on the low side. I ran a quick check on what you will get for that and chose the lower prices and this is what I got - Processor, Motherboard, RAM, Graphics card, Power supply and the hard disk. You still need a DVD drive, a casing, Windows 7 and a monitor.
Regards
vin_sun
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would this one work?
s5750z series
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor AMD Athlon(TM) X4 640 quad-core processor [3.0GHz, 2MB L2, up to 4000MHz bus] edit
Memory FREE UPGRADE! 4GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs] from 3GB edit
Hard drive FREE UPGRADE! 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 500GB edit
Graphics card 1GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce 405 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adapter]
it's $549.99 and a desktop
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would this one work?
s5750z series
Yes, this one will be quite suitable to run SSE. BTW is that the Geforce 405 OR 450 ??
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Yes, this one will be quite suitable to run SSE. BTW is that the Geforce 405 OR 450 ??
:o :o :o
NVIDIA GeForce 405
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NVIDIA GeForce 405
Hello Dexter,
SSE requires the Geforce 8800 GT as a minimum and has a ranking of88. The Geforce 405 has a ranking of 314 which obviously is way below the 8800 GT. The 405 may impact the performance of SSE severely.
Regards
vin_sun
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would this work?
Radeon HD 6450 [DVI, HDMI. VGA adapter]
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would this work?
Radeon HD 6450 [DVI, HDMI. VGA adapter]
that card could acually do the trick because I have a ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, make sure it comes with abour 4G of RAM and your last thing is something along the lines of Intel core I7 CPU 870 at least 2.93ghz minimum but 3 ghz would be great also
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would this work?
Radeon HD 6450 [DVI, HDMI. VGA adapter]
It has a rank of 266 !!!
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It has a rank of 266 !!!
Huh?
that card could acually do the trick because I have a ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, make sure it comes with abour 4G of RAM and your last thing is something along the lines of Intel core I7 CPU 870 at least 2.93ghz minimum but 3 ghz would be great also
How do i tell how much RAM is on the graphics card? I just buy computers thinking that anything will work on it.
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Hi
It has been said a good card is needed I have gtx 460 but the game is mainly run
on C.P.U so the 3gig or above also matters.
Eric
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Huh?How do i tell how much RAM is on the graphics card? I just buy computers thinking that anything will work on it.
Today most graphic cards have 512 MB RAM, though 1 GB RAM is becoming common. The high end cards have 2 GB RAM .
Regards
vin_sun
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that card could acually do the trick because I have a ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, make sure it comes with abour 4G of RAM and your last thing is something along the lines of Intel core I7 CPU 870 at least minimum but 3 ghz would be great also
also Third, what do you mean by but 3 ghz would be great also? do you mean 2.93ghz is better than or worse than 3 ghz?
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Hello Dex,
To run SSE without problems a processor with a "speed" of minimum 3.0 Ghz (Gigahertz) would be best. Try not to go below this but if you have to then do NOT go for a processor BELOW 2.8 Ghz,
vin_sun
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well... there goes 700$ dollars out of my wallet (http://hpshopping.speedera.net/s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/HPShopping/scp_nb?$scp_fmt$&$pb=is{HPShopping/proc_intel?scl=1}&$ss=14.0&$wt=4.68&$sid=is{HPShopping/xw834av_charcoal%20grey_main?scl=1}) :'(
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I just checked out the specs ....
The processors for choice range from 2.13 Ghz to 2.66 Ghz .... below the 3.0 Ghz recommended for SSE.
Laptops are not really suggested for gaming .... as been told to you in the posts above .... it's your call now.
vin_sun
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found this (It's what boosts it up to $700)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-480M Dual Core Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.93GHz
anyways what is ghz stuff all about? What is the point
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found this (It's what boosts it up to $700)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-480M Dual Core Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.93GHz
anyways what is ghz stuff all about? What is the point
If you are keen on a laptop Alienware M 17x is the one for you ok, but you will need $1500 to purchase one. That's the only type of laptop if you want to be guaranteed SSE will run on a laptop. If you don't have that much money, you will have to forget completely about having SSE on a laptop.
I have found this topic about a this guy who also is in a similar situation and wondering about ghz, http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071111040842AAH6Nll. The next article here http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-ghz.htm tells you what is GHz. SSE is tougher on computers than any other game out there, this was the only way to put things together for this game by the looks of it. I mean they even cut back on eye-candy detail which I am not happy about, but they had to do it because they belive that 90% at least of the buyers don't have a good computer.
I really don't want you to get SSE and then wake up it has all these problems, crashes, screen freeze, Blue Screen of Death, errors.......etc.Only thing I would suggest is keep on saving up, if you truly want to be able to run SSE
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found this (It's what boosts it up to $700)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-480M Dual Core Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.93GHz
anyways what is ghz stuff all about? What is the point
Hello Dex,
It is often said that opt for "boosts" only if you are comfortable with it. The geeks do it 'cos they know their computer's capabilities. "Boost" also raises the temperature of the processor. Attachment 1 is something which may explain it better.
As for Ghz it is the equivalent to speed. A car moving at 2 mph is slower than one moving at 3 mph. In the same manner 2 Ghz is slower than 3 Ghz. So basically a processor at 3 Ghz will "process" the instructions it receives much faster than a 2 Ghz processor. Attachment 2 will offer some ideas.
So in SSE, a slow processor will not be able to process the instructions adequately. The sate of the sea is something that makes great demands on the processor so that YOU as the user will be able to see it in a very "realistic" way. When it is stormy the waves are high, the ship is rolling, the sea sprays are more ...... all this accounts for a lot of "instructions" being sent to the processor and it "computes" all this and you see it in a "realistic" manner on your monitor. A "slow speed" processor will not be able to accept so many "instructions" and since it cannot cope up, it will possibly not be able to send the "results" to the monitor ....... and then people yell "my SSE is not working" !!!! The Developers at Vstep have done a lot of research and hence have very definite reasons when they finally say that your computer will require a 3 Ghz processor as the minimum.
I hope all this is not Greek and Latin to you !! ;D
Regards
vin_sun
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Vin, got a quick question, in order to upgrade your GHz what would it involve roughly?
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Vin, got a quick question, in order to upgrade your GHz what would it involve roughly?
Hi Third,
You mean upgrade the processor, right ?
First and foremost you have to figure if your existing motherboard will accept the new processor you have in mind. It has something to do with the "socket" on the MoBo in which your current processor is fitted into.
Intel has a disadvantage as whenever they release a new processor, motherboards have to be designed to accept that new processor. Your existing motherboard may not be able to accept the new Core i3 ~ i7 processors. The motherboard specs will tell you as to which processor it can accept.
In the case of AMD processors, they tend to make new processors in a manner that your existing motherboard can accept since the "socket" will be suitable for the new processor. This is called "backward compatible".
Never go and buy a new processor just because you think it's "cool" and you can afford it. You have to do some reading before you do that !
Regards
vin_sun
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Hi Third,
You mean upgrade the processor, right ?
First and foremost you have to figure if your existing motherboard will accept the new processor you have in mind. It has something to do with the "socket" on the MoBo in which your current processor is fitted into.
Intel has a disadvantage as whenever they release a new processor, motherboards have to be designed to accept that new processor. Your existing motherboard may not be able to accept the new Core i3 ~ i7 processors. The motherboard specs will tell you as to which processor it can accept.
In the case of AMD processors, they tend to make new processors in a manner that your existing motherboard can accept since the "socket" will be suitable for the new processor. This is called "backward compatible".
Never go and buy a new processor just because you think it's "cool" and you can afford it. You have to do some reading before you do that !
Regards
vin_sun
Thanks for that Vin, that cleared up things up majorly :thumbs:
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Thanks for that Vin, that cleared up things up majorly :thumbs:
You're welcome. Third, please see the attachment which is a good guide for Socket - CPU compatibility. Identify the socket on your MoBo and refer the chart to see which processors it can accept. Similarly, if you have a particular processor on mind, then refer to the socket it is compatible with and then do your research for a MoBo which has that socket.
Regards
vin_sun