Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => Topic started by: sniperonthehill on September 18, 2007, 09:15:04
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Has anyone noticed that ferry mn coromuel in rotterdam harbour? Isnt that an old stenaline ferry? Vstep should make it playable ;D
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If VSTEP made it playable, then I would buy Ship Simulator 2008 ;)
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Has anyone noticed that ferry mn coromuel in rotterdam harbour? Isnt that an old stenaline ferry? Vstep should make it playable ;D
Hi sniperonthehill !
We are several to have noticed this lovely little ferry, this has been discussed here !
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,938.250.html (page 11)
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Has anyone noticed that ferry mn coromuel in rotterdam harbour? Isnt that an old stenaline ferry? Vstep should make it playable ;D
..and as far as I know she has never been a Stena ferry! She'e one of the famous Papenburg Sisters for Viking Line and others...
Cheers
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Ok thanks, would it be hard for vstep to include her in the game since shes already there?
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From what I understand (there is a statement from Pjotr/Mark to this effect- I will look for it) that the biggest problem is to make a static scenery item into a playable ship. Basically, the dynamics is harder than making the 3d model.
So the answer, i suspect, is yes- its hard.
Stu
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I really love that kind and size of ferry, but it would be great too, to have it as a static object to be placed, where it is realistic when creating new missions. Guess we used to have more of them, even without the chance to get them as player ships, just for decoration means.
Cheers
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Has anyone noticed that ferry mn coromuel in rotterdam harbour? Isnt that an old stenaline ferry? Vstep should make it playable ;D
Sealink, later Stena Sealink did use one of her sister ships - Earl Granville (Ex Viking 4).
http://simplonpc.co.uk/Viking_Viking_4.html (http://simplonpc.co.uk/Viking_Viking_4.html)
http://simplonpc.co.uk/Mexican_Papenburg.html (http://simplonpc.co.uk/Mexican_Papenburg.html)
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Okay, but as far as I know never in Stena livery, guess?
Cheers
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After a little digging and checking dates, it looks like the Earl Granville was never owned by Stena, having being sold off the year before (90) Stena bought Sealink British Ferries (91).
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Hello..
As i said before... im the author of the MN Coromuel model, and yes she is a Papenburg sister.. the most beautiful roros ever build, just look at those graceful lines. Her sisters were all of the viking ones Earl Granville and so on. Coromuel was build specifically for the goverment of mexico together with her other mexican sisters MN Azteca and MN Puerto Vallarta. Coromuel is still sailing today but with new name "MN Sinaloa Star", MN Azteca was scrapped in Chittagong (sad) and MN Puerto Vallarta is laid up in Mazatlan Harbour just collecting rust. Initially the SS08 team didnt ask me for the model to be playable. But as many is requesting, maybe they will consider to make her playable. I would love to sail her in SS08 of course.(http://vslib.maxxflow.com/getpic.php?pic=1187196274/exterior1)(http://vslib.maxxflow.com/getpic.php?pic=1187196274/interior1)
watch a video from her in this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDeQG7Ezg7E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDeQG7Ezg7E)
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Brilliant, just brilliant.
Thanks Alfredo.
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Reminds me of the Saint classes at Dover (no commonality between them, just same era and general layout).
Ahhh. Remember the days before the 30000 tonne superferries :)
Stu
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After a little digging and checking dates, it looks like the Earl Granville was never owned by Stena, having being sold off the year before (90) Stena bought Sealink British Ferries (91).
Thanks muns
I thought it must have been something like that and Yes! I love the old saint class ferries! When i lived in the u.k i traveled on the stena antrim, formally st christopher and now i think shes called M/F Ibn Batouta. Was it just the style of ferries back then because around that period they all had Similar features?
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Hello..
As i said before... im the author of the MN Coromuel model, and yes she is a Papenburg sister.. the most beautiful roros ever build, just look at those graceful lines. Her sisters were all of the viking ones Earl Granville and so on. Coromuel was build specifically for the goverment of mexico together with her other mexican sisters MN Azteca and MN Puerto Vallarta. Coromuel is still sailing today but with new name "MN Sinaloa Star", MN Azteca was scrapped in Chittagong (sad) and MN Puerto Vallarta is laid up in Mazatlan Harbour just collecting rust. Initially the SS08 team didnt ask me for the model to be playable. But as many is requesting, maybe they will consider to make her playable. I would love to sail her in SS08 of course.
Hey Alfredo
Could you do your MN Coromuel model in the sealink colours since her sister was in that livery?
Cheers
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Hey Alfredo
Could you do your MN Coromuel model in the sealink colours since her sister was in that livery?
Cheers
it is not the same model... none of the sisters are identical... i would need the name, pictures and time ;D im about to start my initial training for flying a B737. so it is going to be difficult
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it is not the same model... none of the sisters are identical... i would need the name, pictures and time ;D im about to start my initial training for flying a B737. so it is going to be difficult
Ok so if i got you pictures and that you may be able to do it? are the two ships nearly identical? On a computer or real training? ;D
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i dont know how identical are they.. but most of them has different arrangement of windows and the stern is always different in every ship.. some times even the same ship changed shapes many times. so i would need multiple specific pictures of the one you want.. i have the goal of creating all of the papenburg sisters.. but is not going to be anytime soon nor fast. and is the real training on the B737-300/400/500 8) enough of Flight Sim. ;D But hey... im 23, i have all the time of the world!
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Ah ok i see! Well i shall search around and have a look for some good photos of the Earl Granville in her sealink livery. If anyone has some good photos of this ferry please post them!!!! Man sounds like fun ive always wanted to try my hands on the real 737 8)
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ill like to see
tomson crusies - celebration ;)
that would be well cool ;D
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that would be well cool ;D
Why 'well cool' is the heating broken? :S
Stu
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How about this big boy in ship simulator? Pride of dover ;D
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Big? maybe in 1986 :) They are now 20 years old and their replacements are currently being designed although I don't think the keels have been laid yet. But their days are limited :(
Stu
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Big? maybe in 1986 :) They are now 20 years old and their replacements are currently being designed although I don't think the keels have been laid yet. But their days are limited :(
Stu
Big to me ;D Its sad when a old favorite looks set to be replaced. Do you know anything about their replacements? What current ferries with pride of dover run that service at the moment?
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Have a look at www.poferries.com
To be honest, they are starting too look dated inside and P&O seems to want fewer, but larger ships. Yet Dover and Calais were purpose built (for Townsend Thoresen) for the Dover-Calais routes and they have brilliant acceleration, manouverability and stability. Interested to know where they will be operated next... Anyone got a spare £34,000,000 that I can borrow to buy them?
Stu
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Have a look at www.poferries.com
To be honest, they are starting too look dated inside and P&O seems to want fewer, but larger ships. Yet Dover and Calais were purpose built (for Townsend Thoresen) for the Dover-Calais routes and they have brilliant acceleration, manouverability and stability. Interested to know where they will be operated next... Anyone got a spare £34,000,000 that I can borrow to buy them?
Stu
Hmm I have never traveled on them so i cant comment! I think the likes of Pride of Canterbury etc will be their for a while yet as they are newer! I think ive got a ships monthly article about their refurbishment. Does anyone know if vstep will bring the Dover-Calais routes to Ship Simulator?
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The Canterbury and Kent, as you obviously know, are rebuilds of mid life freighters, like their sister, Burgundy. However, the actual implementation of Kent/Canterbury is MUCH better than on Burgundy.
Burgundy LOOKS like what it is... A converted freighter. The newer two look quite impressive, both inside and out. Whether they compete with seaCHANCE Rodin is another question.
Compare to the old Fiesta/Fantasia. Old converted freighters, but I think they really looked the part (but too slow). I do know that the current Dover and Calais are nice and quick and I fear that P&O are going to do their usual trick of putting big, expensive boats out that they can not fill in a recession.
Far be it from me to tell P&O how to run their business, but they are planning their business on the basis of the increased Eastern Europe trade lasting forever. It won't if we get a recession, IMHO. Oh what a shame Lord Sterling retired.
Stu
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(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6336/dibujoib3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
a remake!!! now totally based on draws from meyer shipyards!
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Beautiful! :) She's from a time where ships actually looked like ships... ;)
Regards
groennegaard
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Beautiful! :) She's from a time where ships actually looked like ships... ;)
Regards
groennegaard
hahahaa couldnt agree more!! ;)
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Thats impressive ;D I really hope vstep adds this fine ferry to ship simulator!
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Greetings,
I've voted "Others",because we need to have some different ones.The same with other vessels.
If we have more different vessels,there is more fun in the game,also this create some kind of grade of difficulty.
Regards
Marc
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Greetings,
I've voted "Others",because we need to have some different ones.The same with other vessels.
If we have more different vessels,there is more fun in the game,also this create some kind of grade of difficulty.
Regards
Marc
O,yea,you've done a great job on this ferry.Superb
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Greetings,
I've voted "Others",because we need to have some different ones.The same with other vessels.
If we have more different vessels,there is more fun in the game,also this create some kind of grade of difficulty.
Regards
Marc
Yea i agree, People need to put down what (others) they would want to see in the game ??? 8)
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(http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6550/82479507ny1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7471/86478845pt6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2592/75350643bd0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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How about this big boy in ship simulator? Pride of dover ;D
Aah, I have fond memories of being on Pride of Calais during my school trip to the WW1 French battlefields in the early 1990's. On our way home, it was howling gale force winds which I remember she took over 30 mins to depart away from Calais pier because the wind was blowing against her large superstructure. She had to use up all her power and her bow/stern thrusters were going crazy.
The crossing was very, very rough and I was the only one in my school trip party who wasn't seasick! ;D
One thing I didn't like about them was the fact that her owner had this annoying habit of changing the ferry's name every few years. Very confusing!!!!! :-\ The big sisters - Pride of Calais and Pride of Dover - are now back to their original names.
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Aah, I have fond memories of being on Pride of Calais during my school trip to the WW1 French battlefields in the early 1990's. On our way home, it was howling gale force winds which I remember she took over 30 mins to depart away from Calais pier because the wind was blowing against her large superstructure. She had to use up all her power and her bow/stern thrusters were going crazy.
The crossing was very, very rough and I was the only one in my school trip party who wasn't seasick! ;D
One thing I didn't like about them was the fact that her owner had this annoying habit of changing the ferry's name every few years. Very confusing!!!!! :-\ The big sisters - Pride of Calais and Pride of Dover - are now back to their original names.
Love stormy ferry crossing stories! Infact that gives me an idea! ;D
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Hey alfredo great work, is your remodel going to be for ship simulator or are you just playing around with your ferry? ;D ???
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i dont know.. depends on the Vstep crew. they are interested in my model of California Star.. i posted an image in some thread.. i believe it was the big one about "which vessels would you like to see in SS08" but if they want this remake it is ok for me.. as long as i have time! ;D getting busy with my training on the B737
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Hi Alfredo :)
California Star... another beautiful model you've made there! I've looked up the link:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,938.msg20815.html#msg20815
Regards
groennegaard
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i dont know.. depends on the Vstep crew. they are interested in my model of California Star.. i posted an image in some thread.. i believe it was the big one about "which vessels would you like to see in SS08" but if they want this remake it is ok for me.. as long as i have time! ;D getting busy with my training on the B737
You are a ship modeling god my friend! Another brilliant piece of work! Has vstep shown any interest?
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sure the have! thats why Coromuel is a static ship now... and they want California Star for a test... if approved it is going to be a playable ship (so they said)
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sure the have! thats why Coromuel is a static ship now... and they want California Star for a test... if approved it is going to be a playable ship (so they said)
Great! Will they make the coromuel playable?
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may be you all guys that want coromuel playable should ask Vstep crew to make her playable. They havent said anything to me about Coromuel being playable.
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may be you all guys that want coromuel playable should ask Vstep crew to make her playable. They havent said anything to me about Coromuel being playable.
Yeah they are some pretty silent people when they even cannot answer emails. :-*
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Yeah they are some pretty silent people when they even cannot answer emails. :-*
who do you want to talk to??
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One thing I didn't like about them was the fact that her owner had this annoying habit of changing the ferry's name every few years. Very confusing!!!!! :-\ The big sisters - Pride of Calais and Pride of Dover - are now back to their original names.
The PO Dover and PO Calais do roll quite a bit in rough weather though. The pitch holding is good though. Unlike their baby siblings the former Bruges/Kent (Pride/Spirit of Free Enterprise, and of course their more infamous sister)- the Spirit class were much more stable- despite having basically the same hull. Though the Dover/Calais are much quicker acceleration than any other ship of their size on Dover Staits.
Sorry. Off topic.
Stu
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The PO Dover and PO Calais do roll quite a bit in rough weather though. The pitch holding is good though. Unlike their baby siblings the former Bruges/Kent (Pride/Spirit of Free Enterprise, and of course their more infamous sister)- the Spirit class were much more stable- despite having basically the same hull. Though the Dover/Calais are much quicker acceleration than any other ship of their size on Dover Staits.
Sorry. Off topic.
Stu
What makes them able to accelerate so quickly? If you had the likes of PORotterdam vs PODover which one would accelerate faster?
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Sorry. I never saw this question.
The Pride of Dover is about 17000 tonnes, compared to the PoR which is 32000 tonnes or thereabouts. Thats a big difference.
Also the PoD and sisters were designed to make the crossing faster and easier as they needed to compete with the channel sewer (euro tunnel)... Though not travelling at 186MPH of course!
In terms of the mechanical features, you would need to ask a marine expert (there are some here).
Stu
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IK ve noticed that ship brefore it is not a static model min editor
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It would be great to see more of the smaller ferries in SS08. How about P&Os Pride Of Canterbury?
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Did it shrink in the rain then?
Small? Have you been on it?
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Did it shrink in the rain then?
Small? Have you been on it?
Yeah, some ferries have unbelievable super hi-tech features like "rain shrining". You never know what these yards add into them :D
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Yes, if you need to get into a tight harbour, just drop some water on the top deck ;D
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how about the high speed cats on the river thames? They do around 30kts and bigger than the Red Jet 4. They also handle way different. Swinging on one engine in a confined space. Now thats interesting! And theres quite a few of them. Plus two the size of Red Jet 4, which used to be variable pitch, and three small ones that use water jets. The last are the most fun and challanging
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would it be hard for vstep to include her (Coromuel) in the game since shes already there?
It would seem so. I have repeatedly asked if the static cargo ships which are variations of the small container ship could be motorised so we have a variation as player and/or AI but it's never even been replied to.
Likewise the cruise yacht from SS2006 and the inland tankers which are AI but not player. One has to assume that it is too difficult - it surely can't be that they cannot be bothered can it?