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English forum => Vessel Design Group general => Development corner => Active Projects => Topic started by: mikazuki on September 10, 2007, 10:39:50

Title: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on September 10, 2007, 10:39:50
Water Bus "Himiko" is nice ship.
 unique designed like a starship.
Does any modeler start to make 3D model ?

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Name of Ship: Himiko
Total tonnage: 114t
Length and Beam: 33.3m × 8m
Capacity: 171 passengers
Sailing Speed: 12.0 knots (normal speed 7-8knots)
Specification: complied with “Barrier-Free Law”
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Ship HP
http://www.suijobus.co.jp/english/ship_e/index.html

some video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxBkTOAX0MA


Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on September 14, 2007, 15:14:36
So, I try to make 3D model of Water Bus.
1st step, outside of body almost going.
But Its not same as "Himiko",becuse of copyright.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on September 17, 2007, 06:08:07
I make some AVI files for check ship model .
But, file size is too large to attach here.
So. I put 2-LINK page of file, here.
but,YAHOO free server is too poor power
to send AVI file. It may be verry slow to open.

Outline check(3.5MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcNfguZBQRE25nvt&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=mov-ship-01.avi&.src=bc

Wireframe check(900KB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcNfguZB.M2V9yOL&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=mov-ship-01wi.avi&.src=bc
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 17, 2007, 13:58:14
Looks like very futuristic. lets us see if you made the interior. What is the Engine of the original? The H² Engine from Honda like in the FCX experimental car?
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on September 18, 2007, 08:41:44
Hello !

I'm sorry that I cannot find the spec about Engine.
I think, it was nomal Engine same as other ship.

I sometime report my Project progress, here .
Please look it and comment me.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on September 26, 2007, 04:03:50
Hello !

I add some windows and some chairs inside.
I will add some small windows and many objects inside, in next step.

Attention ,it's very heavy, and very -- very slow to open.


Outline check (4.7MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcTPcxZB7Ws5tOGs&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=avi008.avi&.src=bc

Glass top check (4.8MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcTPcxZBTnM7Xs1z&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=avi009.avi&.src=bc


Please set your Windows Media Player's speed to slow.

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Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Sam on September 26, 2007, 12:24:44
Wow, this is looking great! Would be a great ship for missions in the end of the port of Rotterdam.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on September 27, 2007, 01:36:55
Thanks !!

I want to supply my 3-D model for SS 2008 subscription service.
But, my modelling skill is under training now, in this project.
IN happy case, you may play "HIMIKO" in Rotterdam harbour, 1 year after.

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Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on October 07, 2007, 14:14:51
Hello !

I add some roof windows and some desk(brige) inside.
Some texture was downloaded from this foram. (Thanks)


Attention ,it's very heavy, and very slow to open.


Out-in check (4.7MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcpmN1ZB6zknK17O&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=avi010x2-9.avi&.src=bc

Walk check (4.7MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcpmN1ZB.2R1fqar&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=avi010x2-10.avi&.src=bc

Please set your Windows Media Player's speed to slow.

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Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: strassenkreuzer on October 07, 2007, 16:02:55
Great work!!! I hope VStep take it in the game. I like the cockpit. Ok I think it will be funny to ride with this.

greetz strassenkreuzer
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on October 08, 2007, 07:29:04
Thanks !!

Yes,I hope so, too.
If I reach the skill level of VSTEP Ship Development Guideline,
it may be come true, in SS subscription service.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on October 20, 2007, 02:16:58
Hello.

I update my ship 3D model.

< Update point.>

  1.Glass wall added between bridge and cabin.
    (passengers can see almost bridge inside.)

  2.Tables and chairs added in back side area.
    ("Himiko" has 2 type seat, bench type and table set.)

  3.Some small windows and objects etc added.

* File format changed to MPEG-4.
  (It's smaller than AVI file.)
 
   
Out-in check (1.1MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcfHV5ZBzz.6VF1o&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=avi0014xx_NEW.mp4&.src=bc


Please set play speed to slow.


** Something bad in roof line inside. It's waved, big wave (4m)  may damage the roof. 
(Or, only my mistake. haha)


Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on November 12, 2007, 11:18:22
Hello.

I update my ship 3D model, a little.

< Update point.>

  1.Bad roof line and frames of roof windows changed better a little.
    (My skill is too poor to change it better.)

  2.Some flowers and glass pod add on the table.
    (Why flower ??? , only because I want it.)

  3.Doors inside can open and close, if needed.

  4.I set camera move speed to slow.
    (So, file size is too large.)

* File format is MPEG-4.
  (It's smaller than AVI file. But, Yahoo server is very slow.)
 
   
Roof line check -1 (4MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcW6_AaB6MUV7qHQ&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=MP4x0016_NEW.mp4&.src=bc

Roof line check -2 (3.8MB)
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcW6_AaBKSVKR0.T&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=MP4x0016_NEW2.mp4&.src=bc


** Something bad in many wall inside surfase, it's very noisy.
(It may be BUG of this 3D software, or my setting miss.)


 
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: JHB on November 12, 2007, 17:22:37
How many polygons do you have in the water bus? Looks very smoothy ;)
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on November 13, 2007, 04:06:33
Hello.

I use mainly Bezier based surface, in "Shade" 3D software.
It looks smart in modeling work. But, many BUGs in it.
I can use Polygon Mesh, and shall change it to Polygons, at last.

At sample, Ship main body change to about 20,000 polygons.
It's under 100,000 polygons, and may be use in SS 2008 system.
Please see VSTEP Guidelines "PROCEDURE TO ADD NEW VESSELS TO SHIP SIMULATOR 2008"
 
Polygon check (800 KB).
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bc1bQBaBe2TA2FhS&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=poli-016_NEW.mp4&.src=bc

"Shade" HP
http://www.e-frontier.com/article/articleview/1784/1/652?sbss=652

Sample main body is converted to Google SketchUp 6 file.
So, I attach that SketchUp 6 window.

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Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Roebot 65 on November 13, 2007, 16:46:33
 >:( The ideas for this ship are terrible no offense DO NOT PUT IT IN THE GAME
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: groennegaard on November 13, 2007, 19:42:38
>:( The ideas for this ship are terrible no offense DO NOT PUT IT IN THE GAME

Hi Roebot 65 :)

Could you go a little more into details about your criticism? Unfounded negative comments aren't welcome whether they are offensive or not.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on November 14, 2007, 08:21:22
Hello Roebot 65.
Thanks very much, groennegaard.

He may feel that, giantic crocodile or monster swimming in the river.
Or, new submarine search for enemy, and attack ship in sea fight of War.

I will look for next ship (which feel peaceful and gentle shape), later.

Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Sam on November 14, 2007, 19:11:43
>:( The ideas for this ship are terrible no offense DO NOT PUT IT IN THE GAME

NO OFFENCE?

Youve got the guts to post this and then say NO OFFENCE?


Next time you post something like this, have a little bit more RESPECT!

@mikazuki

Don't lissent to this retard, your ship is great!

I hope your efford will be rewarded.

Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: joeyboy52 on November 15, 2007, 02:04:35
yea Roebot you cant just come on and belittle some ones hard work, If you must do it, Atleast tell him why its  "a terrible idea" and anyway i don't see you making anything?   

btw mikazuki, I think it looks great, and i hope it does get in  :D
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Shipaddict on November 15, 2007, 21:00:38
We all have different opinions
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on November 16, 2007, 03:58:19
Thanks Sam.
Thanks joeyboy52.

Thanks very much for your comment.
So, I feel better to make this ship Project.
I keep on this Project progress, for my 1st training.
My 1st model is allmost something a lot of failure.
I made many models before, and allways 1st model is Worst.
But, 2nd/3rd ship model may be better than it.
So, I look for next ship, early time.


Hello Shipaddict.

Indeed, many opinions of ship, there.
I will accept negative opinions, and shall consider them.
Sometimes, it suggest hiden big problems, that overlooked.
And may be chance of progress, may change it better greatly.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Shipaddict on November 16, 2007, 17:31:51
Hello Shipaddict.

Indeed, many opinions of ship, there.
I will accept negative opinions, and shall consider them.
Sometimes, it suggest hiden big problems, that overlooked.
And may be chance of progress, may change it better greatly.

It's a goos ship :) Be nice in shipsim :)

Well done!
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: marcstrat on November 17, 2007, 10:53:51
Greetings,
Yes, this is a very nice & futuristic model,it is also of a great quality.
Is surely fun on the water,Very new design.
Regards
Marc
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Roebot 65 on November 17, 2007, 13:27:23
 >:(THE IDEA OF THE SHIP IS CRAP AWFUL AND STUPID! No offense to the desingers.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Shipaddict on November 17, 2007, 13:40:12
>:(THE IDEA OF THE SHIP IS CRAP AWFUL AND STUPID! No offense to the desingers.

?

We all have different opinions

We all have different opinions but put them in a nice way.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: marcstrat on November 17, 2007, 14:58:04
THE IDEA OF THE SHIP IS CRAP AWFUL AND STUPID! No offense to the desingers.

Greetings,
Well, you may have a different opinion of this creation,however there are other ways to explain this to others,dont you agree.
We would like to keep this forum friendly for others,and maybe yourself to.
I dont think you would like to have some reply's like that to your posts.
Regards
Marc

BTW,it seems that it happen before.So take this as some kind of warning.We dont want that kind of language on the forum.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Shipaddict on November 17, 2007, 15:17:21
Well Said
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Roebot 65 on November 17, 2007, 23:09:01




 >:(Thid idea is crap!
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Wout on November 17, 2007, 23:37:56
Thanks for the constructive criticism, see you again after your week time-off.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on November 20, 2007, 10:56:28
Thanks at all.
Thanks Wout.

Some people may hate this model.
So, please expect my 2nd/3rd ship model.
I hope it better than 1st.

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I check this ship polygon body surface.
Some times, we can see polygon flat panels, on it.
It looks something like old Zeppelin.
I feel it a little bad.

Polygon surface check (1.9 MB).
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcMArDaBKh66ImpW&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=poli-016x_NEW.mp4&.src=bc

Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Shipaddict on November 20, 2007, 18:05:16
Very nice :)
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Captain Spencer on November 20, 2007, 18:36:23
Thank you Wout for stepping in and stopping those awful comments. Why people have the cheek to post things like that I do not know. If I didn't like this model I would say what I didn't like about it, and suggest some improvements. Not just say "ohh this is the worst model ever".

I do think that this model is very good, I love the design and the interior is excellent. Keep up the good work mikazuki!!

Regards,
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Captain Davies on November 20, 2007, 21:18:46
Thanks at all.
Thanks Wout.

Some people may hate this model.
So, please expect my 2nd/3rd ship model.
I hope it better than 1st.

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I check this ship polygon body surface.
Some times, we can see polygon flat panels, on it.
It looks something like old Zeppelin.
I feel it a little bad.

Polygon surface check (1.9 MB).
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/hanazono_2000jp/vwp2?.tok=bcMArDaBKh66ImpW&.dir=/3e5a&.dnm=poli-016x_NEW.mp4&.src=bc



There is absoluelty nothing wrong with your 1st ship model, it is a brilliant and intruiging boat.  I would love to see it ingame.  Keep up the good work!  :)
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: carambole1 on November 20, 2007, 23:31:49
There is absoluelty nothing wrong with your 1st ship model, it is a brilliant and intruiging boat.  I would love to see it ingame.  Keep up the good work!  :)

hi Mikazuki,

first i want to say it looks good your design.
i do not understand the critci of (some) people,
mabay it looks a strange ship but it is a scale of a real ship.
and that is the goal of  ship simulation, if you like the vessel or not, so it be.
i think you must finisch this schip it is looking good not thinking the second is better or the third, this is good .
keep on the work .

best regards ,
Tico.

Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on November 22, 2007, 03:16:00
Thanks Shipaddict.
Thanks CaptainSpencer.
Thanks Captain Davies.

 I am pleased by your good opinions.
 I will keep on this ship Project, step by step.

Thanks carambole1.
 Yes, this ship design is not like normal ship.
 It's nearly like a Jet-airplane, flying in the sky.
 So, some one thinks, it's not suitable for SHIP-SIM.
 But, I do not mind it now.

 Your ship "MS Harmonie" is very good model too.
 I hope you make good models for NVDG group, in future.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: janeltf on December 11, 2007, 11:27:19
Thanks Shipaddict.
Thanks CaptainSpencer.
Thanks Captain Davies.

 I am pleased by your good opinions.
 I will keep on this ship Project, step by step.

Thanks carambole1.
 Yes, this ship design is not like normal ship.
 It's nearly like a Jet-airplane, flying in the sky.
 So, some one thinks, it's not suitable for SHIP-SIM.
 But, I do not mind it now.

 Your ship "MS Harmonie" is very good model too.
 I hope you make good models for NVDG group, in future.

keep up the good work i realy like you're design i don't understand that the some people don't like  it keep it up the good work its a difficult design
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: mikazuki on December 12, 2007, 14:26:55
THX janeltf.

I will keep on this Project, but I'm very busy now.
So, please wait a little.
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: Captain Titanic on December 17, 2007, 14:06:13
I went and desgined a large cruise ship in 1 hour lol! Not trying to discourage you or anythin but shouldnt you be a little faster? Anyway I don't care about speed but your water bus looks great!
Title: Re: Water Bus "Himiko"
Post by: groennegaard on December 17, 2007, 15:47:19
I went and desgined a large cruise ship in 1 hour lol! Not trying to discourage you or anythin but shouldnt you be a little faster?

Good for you Captain Titanic, but what did this cruiseship look like? It looked exactly as a one-hour-model. I think it stands to reason that mikazuki's model has a lot more details than your model.

I rather have one detailed finished model than 5 half-finished projects that look like toy-ships. I can guarantee you that only the best models would be considered by VSTEP. The time spent doesn't matter.

Regards
groennegaard