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English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => Topic started by: wiqvist on September 25, 2010, 13:18:59

Title: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: wiqvist on September 25, 2010, 13:18:59
When I pre-ordered the game, I made the donation to Greenpeace.

So, how much money did Greenpeace get from this sale? Just wonder and of cource hope they got a lot of money.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Subwolf on September 25, 2010, 15:23:45
Well since you pay 2 euros more if you donate I guess that's what they get per copy ;)

But as a Norwegian I don't care much for Greenpeace since they tried to mess up our whaling industry. So I didn't donate, will never play their ships or their campaign. I simply ignore it.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: PoRL on September 25, 2010, 18:31:00
Just wondered where the option was to donate it to Japanese whaling research instead??  :evil:
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: oceandream on September 25, 2010, 18:34:42
Just wondered where the option was to donate it to Japanese whaling research instead??  :evil:

Anything could be possible for that donaition going too the whaling industry  :evil:
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Subwolf on September 25, 2010, 19:05:30
Lets just say that gaming developers should be careful about involving ongoing political issues in games. I find this part of the game offensive, specially a mission created by vstep where Japan and Norway are mentioned as the bad guys. Hopefully they think twice in the future if they plan to expand this Greenpeace stuff.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: wiqvist on September 26, 2010, 04:26:36
Well since you pay 2 euros more if you donate I guess that's what they get per copy ;)
Hehe, I of cource ment how much they got totaly from Vstep. If I was the only one, yes then they got 2 € but I suppose that some more persons did the same as me.

But as a Norwegian I don't care much for Greenpeace since they tried to mess up our whaling industry. So I didn't donate, will never play their ships or their campaign. I simply ignore it.

Well, we are different, I did the donation just so they could mess a bit more with 'our' whaling industry, not the only reason of cource, I like when they stop companies from dumping toxic in the osceans and stop ships from pumping oil in the sea. I would also have liked if the whaling fleet in SSE had sailed under Norwegian flag.

But I hope this thread will not turn into a debate about whale hunting. Just hope that Vstep will give some information about how much Greenpeace got from the sale of the game.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Mad_Fred on September 26, 2010, 04:32:07
Hi wiqvist,

I'm sure the ammount will grow as time goes by, and perhaps when a certain mark is reached, an indication could be given. But there is not a final ammount yet, I would think. There can't be a total yet untill there's no more donation versions sold.

But we can't be sure that they will disclose that yet, we can't even be sure that Greenpeace would want to publish that either, who knows. If they'd want to, I am sure they will at a certain point!  :)


Fred
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: lifecool on September 26, 2010, 08:05:58
Hopefully they think twice in the future if they plan to expand this Greenpeace stuff.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: clanky on September 26, 2010, 08:16:42
Having seen a video of one of the Greenpeace missions I certainly won't be buying SSE.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Subwolf on September 26, 2010, 17:24:16
Hehe, I of cource ment how much they got totaly from Vstep. If I was the only one, yes then they got 2 € but I suppose that some more persons did the same as me.

If you check the Vstep site you'll see them brag about SS08 sales, some 600k copies. So if SSE will have the same figures then Greenpeace should expect between half a million and a million euros, unless they receive even more per copy.

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Well, we are different, I did the donation just so they could mess a bit more with 'our' whaling industry, not the only reason of cource, I like when they stop companies from dumping toxic in the osceans and stop ships from pumping oil in the sea. I would also have liked if the whaling fleet in SSE had sailed under Norwegian flag.

But I hope this thread will not turn into a debate about whale hunting. Just hope that Vstep will give some information about how much Greenpeace got from the sale of the game.

We'll not see Greenpeace or Sea Shepherd in our waters again anyway, they've been gone since 94 when one of our warships almost sent Paul Watson to the bottom of the sea :lol:
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: saltydog on September 26, 2010, 17:38:21
That was a naughty thing to do..   ;D
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Subwolf on September 26, 2010, 17:51:55
That was a naughty thing to do..   ;D

True enough, and it's also part of the story that the commander of the warship was removed after the incident, but in my opinion he should've been saluted, it was obviously very effective ;)

If you want to see what happened, from German television..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK82T3SyLtk&NR=1
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Matthew Brown on September 26, 2010, 21:16:08
But I hope this thread will not turn into a debate about whale hunting.

Hehe  ::)
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: The Ferry Man on September 26, 2010, 21:26:26
But I hope this thread will not turn into a debate about whale hunting. Just hope that Vstep will give some information about how much Greenpeace got from the sale of the game.

Its too late.....  :-\
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: wiqvist on September 27, 2010, 02:00:58
Fred, thank you for your answer, and I think you are right in what you say.

Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: austin14 on September 28, 2010, 00:53:58
i dont support any side but i do believe its wrong to be killing whales.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Subwolf on September 28, 2010, 09:01:12
I know people are afraid to discuss this because it's a hot potato, and can easily become a flamefest. On the other hand, Vstep made this issue part of the game..

But I'll tell you why we hunt whales in our (Norwegian) waters. Many people think whales eat a lot of fish, they don't. But they eat the same food fish do, and tons of it. If the number of whales get too high then the fish can't find any food and will disappear. We don't want that to happen, that's why it's important to keep the number of whales under control. The meat is mostly exported to Japan, they are crazy about it.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Ballast on September 28, 2010, 09:42:21
Lol, that one just made my day  ;D Are you also going to blame the rising of the sealevel to them? Everytime they do their doodoo in the sea, the waterlevel rises..  :o

It isn't the whales who's responsible for the decreasing fish population - It's the supertrawlers..  ;D
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Eike on September 28, 2010, 09:48:48
Now the research "sign" on the japanese whaling fleet makes any sense :captain:
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Subwolf on September 28, 2010, 10:25:22
Lol, that one just made my day  ;D Are you also going to blame the rising of the sealevel to them? Everytime they do their doodoo in the sea, the waterlevel rises..  :o

It isn't the whales who's responsible for the decreasing fish population - It's the supertrawlers..  ;D

Fishing vessels are on quotas set by the government, same goes for the whaling fleet. Point is to keep things in balance if we want a fishing industry 20 years from now. Foreign fishing vessels will receive the "Watson" treatment if they try to fish in our waters without permission ;)
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: Mad_Fred on September 28, 2010, 10:28:41
There wouldn't be a need for man to balance it if man didn't upset that balance to begin with.  ;D  :P
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: TNeves on September 29, 2010, 00:09:33
Fishing vessels are on quotas set by the government, same goes for the whaling fleet. Point is to keep things in balance if we want a fishing industry 20 years from now. Foreign fishing vessels will receive the "Watson" treatment if they try to fish in our waters without permission ;)

Even with other vessels like Portuguese ones, I can say that the Norwegian inspections are very tight ;D There is no big margin for errors.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: saltydog on September 29, 2010, 00:11:42
One thing there will be plenty of in future oceans is jellyfish and plastic..
 (now how can we use these ? )
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: TNeves on September 29, 2010, 00:15:58
One thing there will be plenty of in future oceans is jellyfish and plastic..
 (now how can we use these ? )

Do you believe in that? I don't. It might happen if no one is bothering, and I also don't believe in that.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: saltydog on September 29, 2010, 00:27:14
The oceans are becoming a large garbage dump..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

As we don't eat jellyfish, they shall be the dominant species..
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: TNeves on September 29, 2010, 00:31:05
The oceans are becoming a large garbage dump..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

As we don't eat jellyfish, they shall be the dominant species..

That is a big problem, and like fish fishing, it should be inspected, and the international laws should be very rigid! Just like the cleaning of the tanks, on cargo ships.
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: saltydog on September 29, 2010, 01:12:49
  Yeah, right..  How do you like your jellyfish, deep-fried or in a salad..?
Just kidding, of course there is enough fish..
It's just that there are 7 billion (7.000 million) of us..   That's a lotta fish..
Title: Re: Greenpeace donation from the game sells.
Post by: marcstrat on September 29, 2010, 17:04:41
Hoy,
I think we all know that we have to change our ways of fishing,if we want to continue fishing in the future.
Trawling,pair trawling is out of time now.It kills more fish,even small fish,and thats the reason that we are on the edge of fishing for the regular pieces(cod,flatfish).
Regards
marc