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Title: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Aaron1927 on August 28, 2007, 01:31:33
I don't like the sound of the horn on Titanic.  Is there a way to change a file and replace it with 'the real Titanic's horn'?


Audio of Titanic's Horn recovered

http://www.menet.umn.edu/~bob/photo-album/titanic/titanic.mpg (http://www.menet.umn.edu/~bob/photo-album/titanic/titanic.mpg)





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Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 28, 2007, 01:55:37
I thought the horn was awesome on the Titanic!!

Shame you don't think so  :'(
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Master Captain on August 28, 2007, 02:50:02
yea thats whats on Titanic now.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 28, 2007, 03:02:55
Horn sounds the exact same as that.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Tomaten on August 28, 2007, 06:19:16
no diffrens  :-\
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Maik on August 28, 2007, 09:58:35
I think the titanic horn sounds great. But the sounds of some other boats sound just rubish ???
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Al Bundy on August 28, 2007, 11:20:09
I think the titanic horn sounds great. But the sounds of some other boats sound just rubish ???

I agree.

Titanic's horn is the real thing.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Britannic on August 28, 2007, 14:46:39
Titanic's horn IS great, especially next to Vermaas's (No offence, Vstep!)but I think I can also see what the starter of this thread is getting at. Ever since I heard it in the ss06 trailer vid It sounded good-but it also sounded a bit 'off'. I think the problem is that it starts wrong and the sound is too alternating-its sounds like a fowler steam wistle going while its covered in water from the safety-but Titanic's wouldn't have been affected by this. It just dosn't sound 'dry' enough. And trust me, Ive been listening to steam wistles and horns since I was 3 weeks old. (Steam Rallys). Though I do admit I havnt heard that many Ship wistles, so I could still be wrong! Anyway, Whether its the way the game interpretes the format or what, and it seems trivial, almost pointless to mention a little thing like this so let us never speak of it again! ;D

Thanks, Sky.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on October 03, 2007, 04:45:46
I don't like the sound of the horn on Titanic.  Is there a way to change a file and replace it with 'the real Titanic's horn'?


Audio of Titanic's Horn recovered

http://www.menet.umn.edu/~bob/photo-album/titanic/titanic.mpg (http://www.menet.umn.edu/~bob/photo-album/titanic/titanic.mpg)


Hey, you got a point, if you acualy listen carefully that acualy sound more like the acual whisle :o


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Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: marcstrat on October 03, 2007, 07:07:11
Greetings,
Yes,i love that horn to,and seen him.Question:is that a replica of the titanic's horn?
Creating the sound of different horns,it has been on this forum before.
My idea is:
People who have a keyboard,are realy in the possision to make this happen.
Than record it with "Audacity"program,and you can make a file,which you can send to anyone(Vstep)
Regards
Marc
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on July 15, 2008, 12:37:39
YES IT CAN BE DONE

I don't like the sound of the horn on Titanic.  Is there a way to change a file and replace it with 'the real Titanic's horn'?


Audio of Titanic's Horn recovered

http://www.menet.umn.edu/~bob/photo-album/titanic/titanic.mpg

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It can be done, you need the editiong program called "WAVE PAD PRO not FREE", please can VSTEP make that the horn for the Titanic.I only have the free edition and i can not do it unlses i buy the pro version from here, we need some's help here, titanic would have never sounded better

https://secure.nch.com.au/cgi-bin/register.exe?software=wavepad&source=software
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on July 15, 2008, 13:07:10
Greetings,
Yes,i love that horn to,and seen him.Question:is that a replica of the titanic's horn?
Creating the sound of different horns,it has been on this forum before.
My idea is:
People who have a keyboard,are realy in the possision to make this happen.
Than record it with "Audacity"program,and you can make a file,which you can send to anyone(Vstep)
Regards
Marc


I DID IT, I DID IT! ;D ;D, i am ready to send it to VSTEP for the next part so we can put it into the game, could you give me the adress.OH MAN I CAN FEEL IT!



Regarding,

Third Mate
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: LucAtC on July 15, 2008, 13:29:40
Hello Third Mate,
A nice proposal indeed, but the sound contained in the sound pack (http://www.shipsim.com/downloads/patches.php) that you could have downloaded on ShipSim site is probably good enough. Did you already try it, I think you will like it?
Regards,  :)
Luc
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: mvsmith on July 15, 2008, 15:29:11
Third Mate,
If you are going to send that sound anywhere, it should go to TerryRussell or to Mad_Fred. They are the ones who produce the sound packs for Ship Simulator. I doubt VSTEP would do anything with it; they have more important things to do.
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on July 15, 2008, 23:12:33
Hello Third Mate,
A nice proposal indeed, but the sound contained in the sound pack (http://www.shipsim.com/downloads/patches.php) that you could have downloaded on ShipSim site is probably good enough. Did you already try it, I think you will like it?
Regards,  :)
Luc

Indeed i did, but the soundpack did not contain a new horn for the RMS Titanic but many great othe horns wchich covered a major ammound of ground(ships), and many of us wanted a better horn for the Titanic itself.Were still experimenting, but at the momment this is as close as we came, so we(I) will use this one.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on July 15, 2008, 23:13:28
Third Mate,
If you are going to send that sound anywhere, it should go to TerryRussell or to Mad_Fred. They are the ones who produce the sound packs for Ship Simulator. I doubt VSTEP would do anything with it; they have more important things to do.
Marty


Alright sure, ill contact Mad_Fred or Terry as soon as possible and well have an update later on.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: RMS Gigantic on July 15, 2008, 23:39:32
The ShipSim one and the one in the vid are identical.

HOWEVER, neither are are how Titanic would sound in 1912. This is because both whistles were blown with less pressure than the original due to fear of breaking a part of Titanic's wreck. A salvaged part at that.

This means the original whistle would have given off a higher pitch.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Mad_Fred on July 16, 2008, 00:39:45
Indeed, the one in the game is the same horn as the one shown in the video, but it's a bit better sounding in  the game, actually. It also depends on your audio equipment of course, but I think it sounds perfect allready.

It might not be the same as in 1912, indeed, but I think it's about as close as anyone is going to get. So in this case I'd say the Titanic horn is as good as it gets, the way it is ingame at the moment. And this is why Terry and I both thought we should leave that one alone.  :)

The game one actually does have a slightly higher pitch, which would be more realistic, and some 'rumbling' in it, which I would think adds towards realism too, as opposed to the one in the video that is blown with air instead of steam. That's just my view of it.

I think the game one is better, but that's a matter of taste, as much as a matter of authenticity, I guess.  ;D

Regards,
Fred

* edit * typo
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on July 16, 2008, 00:40:29
The ShipSim one and the one in the vid are identical.

HOWEVER, neither are are how Titanic would sound in 1912. This is because both whistles were blown with less pressure than the original due to fear of breaking a part of Titanic's wreck. A salvaged part at that.

This means the original whistle would have given off a higher pitch.

I did it, this horn may be low pressure but it just sounds better(bit or maybe more), anyway for the big moment here it is, a new horn for The Royal Mail Steamer Titanic, the only thing here is that the horn is at a low pitch(deeper,little bit) and to me it makes it feel more original, but it depends of what you like.


Sorry file too big (761KB), please send me a PM with your e-mail address if you would like the new horn as soon as possible,expect delays if there are too many requests but i will reply back .
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Reece on July 16, 2008, 03:57:24
Hi Third Mate, just go here: http://www.mediafire.com/
Click on the browse button to point to your file, then press the large green button to upload it, once it is uploaded a box will appear on the lower left with the download link, just copy & paste to this thread. ;)
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: RMS Gigantic on July 16, 2008, 04:10:50
Would it be possible to attempt to rebuild the more than 4 foot tall whistles?

There were 2. One was on each of the first 2 funnels. the back 2 were mock ups made for asthetics, not unlike the ship's 4th funnel.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Reece on July 16, 2008, 04:49:22
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Would it be possible to attempt to rebuild the more than 4 foot tall whistles?
Yes & wouldn't it be awesome to see the steam as well when sounded! ;D
Devs please read & say "Yes we will do it!" :D
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Agent|Austin on July 16, 2008, 06:41:03
I made a horn for you guys, that like "this" one, with an INSTALLER! I FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE AN INSTALLER!
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on July 16, 2008, 07:23:30
Hi Third Mate, just go here: http://www.mediafire.com/
Click on the browse button to point to your file, then press the large green button to upload it, once it is uploaded a box will appear on the lower left with the download link, just copy & paste to this thread. ;)


Yeah sure, make sure you crack up your speakers a bit.Its very close to the acualy thing but, its in a low pitch that all, its very hard finding the acual thing since it may have never been blown ed at actual pressure(high pitch)

Here http://www.mediafire.com/?0t540xjd9cd

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on July 16, 2008, 08:06:52
The horn on Titanic is a recording of the real one from the forward funnel of Titanic, they recovered the set and refubished them to their original state. Then they sounded whistles before an audience of thousands (St Paul 1999) and as far as i know, the recording was either taken from there and edited or the whistles were sounded again but for say online use or in this case SS08.

You can listen to the real set of whistles here.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=C6vdR5Hp91Y

Remember if this was the recording used in the game, it would have been edited with software to take out background noise and to enhance it more.

Jack.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Reece on July 16, 2008, 11:11:54
Well here is an edit from the original museum file:
http://files.filefront.com/Titanic+Hornrar/;11085023;/fileinfo.html
But this is the one I use in game:
http://files.filefront.com/Titanic+Movie+Hornrar/;10686881;/fileinfo.html
Cheers.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Captain Best on July 16, 2008, 13:22:00
Well here is an edit from the original museum file:
http://files.filefront.com/Titanic+Hornrar/;11085023;/fileinfo.html
But this is the one I use in game:
http://files.filefront.com/Titanic+Movie+Hornrar/;10686881;/fileinfo.html
Cheers.
it was a little difference horn
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Reece on July 16, 2008, 15:46:28
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it was a little difference horn
Yes! ;D
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Captain Best on July 16, 2008, 18:02:40
Yes! ;D
if it could be changed to MP3 file. and it might be working on the Shipsim08 horn to Titanic
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Agent|Austin on July 16, 2008, 18:46:04
if it could be changed to MP3 file. and it might be working on the Shipsim08 horn to Titanic

Shipsim needs .wav files to use as horns. ;)
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Captain Best on July 16, 2008, 18:52:25
Shipsim needs .wav files to use as horns. ;)
ahh. and Chatters MP3 file. well. then you can copy this new horn to Titanic file IF u want too.
I preffer to put in MP3 files music to the Chatter/Radio map ;D
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: RMS Gigantic on July 17, 2008, 06:10:09
But it is a deeper pitch than that of 1912.

The Titanic Mueseum in Branson Missouri is built to look like the Titanic from the front of the ship to aft of funnel #2.

A worker there said they blow the whistle every day at noon. Unfortunatly, I didn't get there until after noon, so I didn't get to hear it. They also said it was sounding sickly then, anyway, but that may be a possibility to try sometime. It may even be fixed now.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on July 17, 2008, 08:47:02
But it is a deeper pitch than that of 1912.

The Titanic Mueseum in Branson Missouri is built to look like the Titanic from the front of the ship to aft of funnel #2.

A worker there said they blow the whistle every day at noon. Unfortunatly, I didn't get there until after noon, so I didn't get to hear it. They also said it was sounding sickly then, anyway, but that may be a possibility to try sometime. It may even be fixed now.

How can you say it was "deeper pitch than that of 1912", you weren't there ???
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: RMS Gigantic on July 17, 2008, 09:52:21
But I do know the wreck's horn was blown at a smaller frequency than the original in 1912 due to fear of breaking it.
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Third Mate on July 17, 2008, 11:46:41

Hello everyone, i have an update from my last post.Same application process as the last one.

Titanic whistle version 1.1
New changes:

slight higher pitch
longer blow
slight more actuate (bare in mind Titanic had 2 whistle instead of one)

Enjoy.

It can be downloaded from here http://www.mediafire.com/?qz3ny2m0dni
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: pauljanaway1 on July 17, 2008, 21:45:04
i'm just going to keep it with the ingame one
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: RMS Gigantic on July 17, 2008, 22:19:52
sAME> iT JUST DOESN"T SOUND LIKE IT CAME FROM A WHISTLE WITH THE SHAPE OF tITANIC"S>
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: pauljanaway1 on July 17, 2008, 23:02:18
i dont know how to do all this pc things so i just leave it alone
Title: Re: Titanic's Horn
Post by: Mad_Fred on July 17, 2008, 23:44:54
It's not that difficult, but just like all other things to do with your pc, if you are not sure, it's better to leave something alone.

However, if you want to try it anyway, here's what you do:

Go to your Shipsim 08 directory. (The folder where it is installed on your hard drive)

Example: C:\Program Files\Vstep\ShipSim2008

Open the folder called "Actors" and in that folder, open the one called "Objects".

Then you'll see all the folders for the ships and such. Find the one called "Titanic" and open that.

In there, you will find a file called "horn.wav".

This is the soundfile that is played when you sound the horn ingame.

Rename this file, let's say to "original_horn.wav"

Then grab the file that Thirdmate has linked to, and rename that one to "horn.wav" and put that into the Titanic folder.

Now, the new file will be the horn.

If you prefer the original one, after trying it out, just throw the new one away, or take it out again, and rename the original one to "horn.wav". again.

And like this, you can replace any of the horns in any of those folders for the ships.

But make sure you rename the original one to keep it as a backup. You can also put it elsewhere for safekeeping instead of renaming it, but I prefer renaming, then it's always clear what it is.. 
(the original horn, in this case, as that's what it's name is..  ;D )

Easy job, if you follow these steps.

Regards,
Fred