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English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: pmillett22 on August 23, 2007, 23:19:15
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Titanic has been under construction. Set to sail ON April 10, 2012. A memorial service will be on April 15, 2012, as it reaches the point of titanic's sinking. I wish the best of luck to her maiden voyage!!! She will finally reach harbor 100 years later.
http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ThomasAndrewLine/project.html
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I did hear something about this a few years back. I was under the impression from what I heard at that time, that the idea was slated. Apparently due to relatives of the people who died in the original sinking objecting to it.
I guess they have decided to do it after all ???
Regards.
DJM.
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wow!unfortunatley here in tenesse,well,that uis just plain far away from where theyll luanch it , right?
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I guess, but i plan on going. Don't care if i have to sell everything i own. I have been a titanic fanatic for my whole life. this would be a dream come true for me.
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Sounds amazing. The only thing is, this is the first that I have heard about it. It has not been on the news and looks pretty fake to me. There are no official reports (please post them if I am incorrect).
Seems a bit fake for me but it would be incredible to see her again and actually be able to go and visit her.
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yea it does seem to good to be true, and like DJM said, why would the relatives of the people who died in Titanic want to see that ship again.
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What do you pay for a coal fired transatlanticride in a 3rd class cabin? Im sure a lot more than in a first class cabin on a cunard liner...
Do you really want to ride in a 3rd class cabin today?
Can you find a captian for an open bridge?
can you find coaltrimmers???
I think you cannot built a ship with standards from the last century. Its the same like you want to use a Ju52 for regular airservice today. Its uneconomically and uncomfortablly.
But if you build ships in this beautyfull design, that would be cool, not the exact copy.
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well,i modified the titanic from VS gold edition and turned i into the olympic and i canot describe how awesome this model is,max knots:30
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What do you pay for a coal fired transatlanticride in a 3rd class cabin? Im sure a lot more than in a first class cabin on a cunard liner...
Do you really want to ride in a 3rd class cabin today?
Can you find a captian for an open bridge?
can you find coaltrimmers???
I think you cannot built a ship with standards from the last century. Its the same like you want to use a Ju52 for regular airservice today. Its uneconomically and uncomfortablly.
But if you build ships in this beautyfull design, that would be cool, not the exact copy.
In case you haven't read, It will be UPGRADED to today's standards while keep interior and exterior the same.
May be longer but will be a lot more SAFER!!!
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In case you haven't read, It will be UPGRADED to today's standards while keep interior and exterior the same.
May be longer but will be a lot more SAFER!!!
I heard about this project 10 years ago; it's been proposed when the movie Titanic by James Cameron was filmed. Anyway actually that article says:
The Ship will be steam powered, just as Titanic was, fueled by coal.
Pretty far from today's standards... which makes me think it's a hoax.
Ciao,
Corrado
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I've got a feeling this probably is a hoax, otherwise it would be made official and would be all over the news like wildfire. Probably just some nutcase trying to be funny. Whoever it is though they could have made it a bit more believable by getting a better website ;D :D
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Whoever it is though they could have made it a bit more believable by getting a better website ;D :D
That's what i thought :D
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This is just screaming "fake fake fake" so loud that I had to cover my ears while reading it.
1: The site is hosted on "angelfire.com" (www.angelfire.lycos.com: Get your free web site"
2: email: thomasandrewsline@yahoo.com. Yahoo, another free thing.
You would believe that a company who is about to buy a billion euro ship would be able to spend a few euros for a desent webpage.
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i would agree its fake, its just screams fake like Al Bundy said. I have never seen it on the news or read about it, and like Al Bundy said, if the company is building a billion dollar ship you would think they would spend some money for a good website and e-mail.
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http://www.put.com/gigantic/ (http://www.put.com/gigantic/)
This site summarizes the many schemes to build Titanic, R/M Humongous, or whatever.
It also has a good discussion of the impracticality of those schemes.
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I dont think this will happend, and it is not a good idea.
It also sounds unrealistic to use coal and steam..
The best idea is to build a Titanic hotel, just like the real ship with no modifications, and will be available for everyone and not so expensive.
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There are still operational steam trains. Not just for show either.
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There is another site that claims to be a project to sail a replica of Titanic here - http://www.euronet.nl/users/keesree/replica.htm
As you see, this one was supposed to sail on the 90th anniversary in 2002, and obviously didn't happen.
I don't think any of these sites are genuinely going to get another Titanic sailing any time in the foreseeable future.
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There is another site that claims to be a project to sail a replica of Titanic here - http://www.euronet.nl/users/keesree/replica.htm
As you see, this one was supposed to sail on the 90th anniversary in 2002, and obviously didn't happen.
I don't think any of these sites are genuinely going to get another Titanic sailing any time in the foreseeable future.
You are right! None of those sites dont look offical >:( Even i can make better ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Titanic has been under construction. Set to sail ON April 10, 2012. A memorial service will be on April 15, 2012, as it reaches the point of titanic's sinking. I wish the best of luck to her maiden voyage!!! She will finally reach harbor 100 years later.
http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ThomasAndrewLine/project.html
I knew Titanic II would be built someday :D, I have heard about this too :). Finally, 100 years later she will reach her goal :D.
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i think its a hoax.
you would need a lot of capital and facilities to even think about building such a ship , and there would be a huge blaze of publicity to begin raising the capital for such a project .
in the article there is one statment that makes no sence as well , if modern construction laws prevent the ship fit out with wood then how can you bulid the interior from wood and coat/treat it with a fireproof material ? its still build of wood and therefore against regulations!!!!!!!
also you would have the slight impracticality of obtaining coal , and the nessesary support vessels/ loading facilities for coal , not like you can go down the local coal merchants and grab a couple of bags of it , your talking lorry loads and lorry loads of it , much easier to have a modern engines and disguse it as coal fired and have smoke generators for external effect.
the titanic also had one very major design flaw, the rudder was far too small to allow adequate steerage , how would this be overcome without changing the design?
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the titanic also had one very major design flaw, the rudder was far too small to allow adequate steerage , how would this be overcome without changing the design?
I am curious: Why do you think the rudder was "far too small"?
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Its a well known fact that the rudder , in relation to the size and number of screws was very small. dont forget the titanic had three screws , but only one post mounted central rudder behing screw no 2 , thus no matter what way the rudder is facing a minimum of one screw is completely unaffected by the rudder . Its the rudder that divers the prop wash in a given direction to move the ship stern sideways . basically a third of the ships power is not being directed , if the ship had had a second or even three rudder system all the thrust would be used to turn the ship.
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Its a well known fact that the rudder , in relation to the size and number of screws was very small. dont forget the titanic had three screws , but only one post mounted central rudder behing screw no 2 , thus no matter what way the rudder is facing a minimum of one screw is completely unaffected by the rudder . Its the rudder that divers the prop wash in a given direction to move the ship stern sideways . basically a third of the ships power is not being directed , if the ship had had a second or even three rudder system all the thrust would be used to turn the ship.
So in your opponion a ship is "under ruddered" if it does not have a rudder behind every propeller? You are right that if all propellers had a rudder it would have been more effective/overeffective but that does not mean that it was underruddered.
No it is not a well known fact that the rudder was too small, but a well known myth. Titanic could make a full circle with a diameter of 3.850 feet or just below 4½ its length and a forward momentum of 2.100 feet. (Eaton and Haas: Titanic Triumph and Tragedy)
Titanic was build, not to turn on a quarter but to sail straight ahead and make course changes. It was still able to navigate in the solent and doing the "S turn" by it self and that was even without the center propeller revolving.
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The rudder it self was not the main problem.
One of the problem was the center propeller.
When engines where reversed, the center propeller was out of function, and redused the flow to the rudder.
The turbine where not reversable.
The senter propeller where powered by a stemturbine that used the exhaust steam from the main steam engines. The steam engines rotated the port and starboard proplellers and where reversable. :)
Edit: If interested read more about Titanic's engines here:
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic_prime_mover.html (http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic_prime_mover.html)
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The rudder it self was not the main problem.
One of the problem was the center propeller.
When engines where reversed, the center propeller was out of function, and redused the flow to the rudder.
The turbine where not reversable.
The senter propeller where powered by a stemturbine that used the exhaust steam from the main steam engines. The steam engines rotated the port and starboard proplellers and where reversable. :)
Are we talking about the famous 14th April 1912 or in general? I still maintain that the rudder was sufficient.
I think so because I doubt that H&W would make such a mistake to underrudder their ship. Other ships was build the same way.
I know that the turbine was cut on the night of 14th April 1912. That was part of the procedure to go "Full astern"
But consider this: There was around 38 seconds from the spotting to the hit. In these 38 seconds the engineer had to bring down the steam, engage the change over walve to disengage the turbine and then engage the full reverse.
Turbine engine had no breaks. How long time would it take for it to go from 178 (?) revolutions per minute to just "windmill" in the slipstream? I doubt that the turbine had come to a halt or "windmill" speed within 38 seconds. I don't know it for a fact but I doubt it.
Also the Titanic still had forward momentum and this still had a flow of water over its rudder. In my opponion the wing propellers was too far away from the rudder to affect it when going full stern.
I agree that it was not designed to turn like a modern speedboat and that flow over the rudder should be considered, but I don't think it was underruddered. I also agree that the more speed the more effective the rudder.
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if i go on her(already saving up) i will do something amazing. yell "I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD!!!!!" and if i see an iceberg ahead yell "ICEBERG RIGHT AHEAD!!!!!"(maybe not. don't wanna cause a panic)
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I talked about it here: http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,7239.0.html
Let's see this happen! woot!
They're in a bit of a financial situation, so I drop by the site when possible (as in repeatedly refresh around 18 tabs with all of them on the site! ;D) I want to see this happen!
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I guess, but i plan on going. Don't care if i have to sell everything i own. I have been a titanic fanatic for my whole life. this would be a dream come true for me.
Ditto! My family wanted to go to England and Ireland, and I want to go to Ireland in summer 2012 to see the Titanic Quarter, so this is a great way to go! The rest of my family doesn't like the idea, though. I guess the idea of riding on a Trans-Atlantic ocean liner called "Titanic" doesn't appeal to them! ;D
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if i go on her(already saving up) i will do something amazing. yell "I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD!!!!!"
Problem: no one is allowed beyond the forcastle's breakwaters.
Also, get ready for some grimey conditions: The bow and stern are third class areas
I know who was allowed where on the decks.
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I am curious: Why do you think the rudder was "far too small"?
Wasn't. I've read she could turn well by today's standards! Reversal was the issue. The Titanic, however, will have sonar, so visability won't be a problem like it was on April 14, 1912 in the North Atlantic at 11:40 PM local time.
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Wasn't. I've read she could turn well by today's standards! Reversal was the issue. The Titanic, however, will have sonar, so visability won't be a problem like it was on April 14, 1912 in the North Atlantic at 11:40 PM local time.
I don't want this to sound harsh but get your head out of the clouds. This ISN'T going to happen in a million years. Trust me, this is just a hoax and there's no way it's going ahead.
Just face it, it's not going to happen :(
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I don't want this to sound harsh
Then that was a poor job.
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Well he was right......I believe that Titanic isn't going to be reborn, no matter what.