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English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: klompie on August 16, 2007, 20:09:40

Title: Patch time..
Post by: klompie on August 16, 2007, 20:09:40
how late will the patch be released tomorrow?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Orinoco on August 16, 2007, 20:26:06
No-one knows. Hopefully before 1200 GMT.  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 16, 2007, 21:35:27
 ;D

Hah, yes, is this going to be one of those "released at midnight" type things?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: saken41 on August 16, 2007, 21:38:59
The Titanic story will be recreated I think...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: baza17 on August 16, 2007, 22:50:13
only 1 hour and 5 mins or so  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 16, 2007, 22:53:07
patience is a virtue...

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 16, 2007, 23:06:38
patience is a virtue...

True.

I wish I had some.  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: baza17 on August 16, 2007, 23:11:36
same  :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 17, 2007, 01:03:36
go visit a hospital. there are loads of patience there ;)

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mporter on August 17, 2007, 01:19:40
go visit a hospital. there are loads of patience there ;)

Stu

<groan>
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 01:25:26
*passes out and falls over*
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: pmillett22 on August 17, 2007, 02:53:38
go visit a hospital. there are loads of patience there ;)

Stu

Hospital? Over here in New York State in Glens Falls you better have patience cause that's one slow hospital. I waited almost 4hrs past my scheduled appointment for a 10min. thing. I can't begin to talk about patience.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 03:08:26
Oh, I know what you mean!

I was in one hospital one time, during the night, so there weren't that many doctors. But anyway, there was this girl in the waiting room so long, she started crying and they left, probably to another hospital. also, she was probably around 15-18, so it wasn't some little kid that couldn't handle a tiny bit of pain. But I waited in there for a few hours.
I'll tell ya', though, in the time you spend in the waiting rooms, you could already be healed  :-\

So, it requires patience to get patience  :P

(oh yeah, and even after you get called on to go into the doctor's office/room place, you end up waiting another half hour for the doctor to get there. either that, or that's how much time you sit in the room with no doctor in there.)

But, I guess we're getting a bit off topic, aren't we?  ;D ;) :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: CubanSailor on August 17, 2007, 05:01:25
12am on the dot...US East Coast.

I want my patch.  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 05:10:20
Haha, still not available for you after 12am? I guess it doesn't work like that  :P

But, maybe it'll be like Christmas. Go to sleep (because it's 12!), wake up, and it'll be there!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: CubanSailor on August 17, 2007, 05:16:22
nah Santa can kiss my a**.

I want this stuff now lol.

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 05:40:58
You know, I'm not really one to care about language. In fact, I'd be the first one to say "fire away! say whatever the heck you want!", but.. you know a mod is going to see those words.  :D  :P

But I agree..

must....... be...... patient.....
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nedo on August 17, 2007, 08:45:18
Hey, does any1 know were to get the Mission Editor?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 08:45:51
it will come with the patch  ;) today
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 17, 2007, 08:50:45
Were is the patch???? cant find it yet
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 09:01:16
Is it just me or are we all kind of... waiting eagerly right now?

 :D

Well, I'm off to sleep. That ought to make time go by  ;D


(Can't wait to make my own missions!)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 09:02:15
yepp we are all waiting  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 09:03:09
Bring me the mission editor!

Pateince........ :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 09:05:33
1:03 AM for me now. That means it should be morning in england, and the eastern countries so it should come soon when they get into work!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 09:06:38
It is now 6 minutes past 9am in England ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 17, 2007, 09:07:45
its 10:07 am over here....and i cant wait to get the patch ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 09:08:17
Ok, still awake  :)


It's 3:08am here.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 09:09:07
wow, seems like more people gathering here  :P  :o

This is one special patch  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 09:09:30
wow, seems like more people gathering here  :P  :o

This is one special patch  ;D
Quite right!

I go play ss08 now to pass away the time...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 09:11:37
Ok, still awake  :)


It's 3:08am here.

Central US eh... Western here ^.^

I can't sleep so I wanted to wait, can't download on my fast computer until morning anyway...

I need patch!!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 09:16:20
I need patch!!!


Haha, yes. The patch is needed to sustain life!  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 09:21:36

Haha, yes. The patch is needed to sustain life!  ;)

I know, I am going to die of no-patch, I will bleed to death! *Slits his wrists*
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 17, 2007, 09:30:47
9:30 am here in England , No patch yet, they must still be havin' breakfast! ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 09:32:08
lol what is this a countdown till patch relax guys when it comes it comes maybe it comes tomorrow  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 09:34:46
I hope they see this!

I wonder how there breakfast is.... I wonder if they have it in the office XD
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 09:37:01
Haha, well, it said 17th, and, well, it's the 17th.  :D

But, that doesn't mean "at the stroke of midnight" or "at the crack of dawn".  :-X
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 17, 2007, 09:39:09
Don't forget the Dutch are very laid back, so breakfast for them may last well into the afternoon! LOL! :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 09:43:16
they could have been non-lazy for one day in there long lives...

Could have even had the web server put it on automatically!

Edit: I give up good night everyone!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 09:47:40
what if patch doesn't come today but it comes like in tueseday  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 09:49:46
Well I am tired at 2 AM so good night, hopefully it will be up when I wake up :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 17, 2007, 09:50:29
I'll be drinkin' a lot of expresso! :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 09:56:14
I'll be drinkin' a lot of expresso! :D

lol its better if you go to sleep time will pass faster that way :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Parsec on August 17, 2007, 09:59:52
I'm starting to feel impatient, I'm quite excited now waiting for the patch!  :o ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 17, 2007, 10:00:16
Only problem is that I am in eastern England and only just got up! ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 10:04:34
im 1 hour ahead of you  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 17, 2007, 10:05:58
1 HOUR closer to bed then LOL! :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 10:06:57
ahh yes i didn't think about that  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 10:14:32
10:15 in england
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 10:15:15
i think they will put it around emmm 16:00 if they put it today  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 10:21:11
Here's a little something I did to pass the time...

(I took a screen shot of Titanic and made it look like it's all lit up  ;D   )

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j68/hudizzle17/Titanic-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 10:25:00
why u posted that twice? are you that much borred and waiting for the patch  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on August 17, 2007, 10:25:45
They said around 17th so... it could be the 18th or the 19th aswell. :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 10:27:18
why u posted that twice? are you that much borred and waiting for the patch  :D

Yes  :D

But, I think I'll go to sleep for real now. There's nothing like sleeping in a room with the air conditioner making you freeze  ;D

So, I bid you good day, & goodnight.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 10:28:08
They said around 17th so... it could be the 18th or the 19th aswell. :P

u never know maybe it will be delayed for 1 week but we don't want that do we  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: baza17 on August 17, 2007, 10:40:12
WHERE IS THE PATCH  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 10:40:40
on it's way  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on August 17, 2007, 10:50:02
I think they would told us now, if the patch was delayed.

We just have to wait a little :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 17, 2007, 10:51:28
Here in the Netherlands it GMT+1 11:50 now on 17-08-2007, still no patch on the Vstep site!

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on August 17, 2007, 10:57:30
Here in the Netherlands it GMT+1 11:50 now on 17-08-2007, still no patch on the Vstep site!



The same here in Norway! And yeah, still no patch.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 10:58:32
I think they would told us now, if the patch was delayed.

We just have to wait a little :)

well they didn't say that the patch is 100% coming today so we don't know if it also ain't coming  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on August 17, 2007, 11:00:23
well they didn't say that the patch is 100% coming today so we don't know if it also ain't coming  :)

Yeah, you probly righ there. But i hope it comes today!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 11:05:55
Yeah, you probly righ there. But i hope it comes today!

yes me too  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: baza17 on August 17, 2007, 11:20:03
but they said the 17th so they better put it out today
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 11:21:54
Well that's estimated time they can put it whenever they want  :-\
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 17, 2007, 11:25:11
Well that's estimated time they can put it whenever they want  :-\
I want them to want to release it now ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 11:36:10
Hiya everyone :)

Vstep continue to appreciate your interest in their development of Ship Simulator and fully understand that this patch has generated a great deal of interest.  The latest Official news on the patch is as follows:

The patch is currently being fine-tuned and unfortunately will be delayed for approximately 2 weeks.  This delay is a necessary part of the development process and Vstep appreciate your understanding while the final stages of the patch are completed.  Thank you.

Kind regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on August 17, 2007, 11:37:44
OH NO! Another two weeks ? :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: KDS on August 17, 2007, 11:37:57
RRRR. :-[

Shame, but I guess I want it to be as best as it can be! No rushed. :D

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: lx585x on August 17, 2007, 11:41:42
lol guess i was right  ;D :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on August 17, 2007, 11:53:57
Two weeks? Holy cr**...

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: saken41 on August 17, 2007, 11:56:39
Here it's 12:57, midday here :P.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on August 17, 2007, 12:02:59
Does anyone out there know if the patch will fix the sinking of the supply ship on the Nort Sea Supply Mission? As soon as I tranfer from port to North sea mysupply ship sinks
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: andy_m on August 17, 2007, 12:12:31
Does anyone out there know if the patch will fix the sinking of the supply ship on the Nort Sea Supply Mission? As soon as I tranfer from port to North sea mysupply ship sinks
Thats the anchor bug, bring up your mooring options and there should be a red cross on your bow, click it and the ship should stop sinking.

Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: markus1912 on August 17, 2007, 12:15:35
the patch will not released tody and not tommorrw and not next week the german moderator told me that the patch will not reaset in further time i hope i spell correct
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on August 17, 2007, 12:18:26
 :D Thank you will give that a try. Hope I can see the red x as the bow is under water. Will the ship come back to an even keel?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: markus1912 on August 17, 2007, 12:19:59
i became now the message that the patch will released in Ca.two weeks
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nedo on August 17, 2007, 12:22:27
All we can do is to wait...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Kevinmcg_ships on August 17, 2007, 13:00:42
I would rather to have the patches which will work properly, than them being rushed out by VSTEP developers. So I am happy to wait another 2 weeks.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dogman on August 17, 2007, 13:08:38
Hi Kevin,

I'm with you on that one.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: bowie on August 17, 2007, 13:19:31
erm where is it
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: bowie on August 17, 2007, 13:23:31
2 week what a joke oh well suppose we shall have to wait
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 13:24:26
TWO WEEKS!? I do't beleive it. >:(


i can see the mission editor flying away on the harizon.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 13:27:30
I'm sure we can all agree on one thing, it will be worth the wait ;)

Not too long to wait eh, 2 weeks will 'sail by' :D

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 13:28:35
Hope so.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Poncho on August 17, 2007, 13:30:20
I'm sure we can all agree on one thing, it will be worth the wait ;)

Not too long to wait eh, 2 weeks will 'sail by' :D

Regards.

DJM.

Totally agree!

Guys, let's wait, surely its for the best of the game and our benefit!  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 13:38:11
Guys, let's wait, surely its for the best of the game and our benefit!  ;)

I agree, surely VSTEP want the patch to be bug-free and so we should be patient and wait. I really wanted the patch to come out but I guess it will be even better in two weeks.

Patience guys...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 13:38:24
Just out of interest:

Is it the mission editor which needs the extra work or the sinking and other aspects of the patch.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 13:41:34
Just out of interest:

Is it the mission editor which needs the extra work or the sinking and other aspects of the patch.

The official standpoint is that the patch needs some more work before it is complete and ready to be released.  At the moment, that's all I can tell you :)

It will be released as soon as it is ready though, be assured of that ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 17, 2007, 13:48:36
I think this is bad PR, why didnt Vstep publish this information earlier on their website that the patch is delayed, i doubt that vstep came to the conclusion today that they need more time for testing.

If you want to play with the big boys then at least announce this officially as soon as its clear that a deadline is unreachable and dont let your customers wait until the last moment!

If this was a company like Microsoft or Electronic Arts we would have a press release weeks before release.

If Vstep cares about its customers then they should make up with the customer inconveniance of selling them a alpha version of their game and delaying updates by adding even more extra content!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 13:53:01
If I could offer my own personal opinion on this ;)

To me, this is a good thing, Vstep devoting 2 more weeks to the development of this patch is a positive thing.  It shows a great deal of commitment, not just to their game development, but to us as gamers.

I personally find that very reassuring :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: psolk on August 17, 2007, 13:59:34
I think the issue here is not really the patch being delayed but the lack of pro-active communication.  I am sure the developers did not wake up this morning and magically decide the patch was not ready.  (especially if they are taking two weeks to finalize it).  They had to know it wasn't going to make it yesterday, two days ago, five days ago maybe...  Why not come out then and let the community know what is happening opposed to people coming on the 17th expecting a finished patch to find nothing except DJM responding to forum posts.  There is no communication from the developer and that is what is unacceptable from my perspective.  Not the release slipping but the lack of communication about it...
That is my .02,
-Paul
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: matrixclese on August 17, 2007, 14:04:11
If I could offer my own personal opinion on this ;)

To me, this is a good thing, Vstep devoting 2 more weeks to the development of this patch is a positive thing.  It shows a great deal of commitment, not just to their game development, but to us as gamers.

I personally find that very reassuring :)

Regards.

DJM.

Personally, I would find it "reassurring" if the game wasnt so broken in the first place. Maybe they should have waited 2 more weeks before releasing such a broken/unfinished game in the first place.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JD on August 17, 2007, 14:06:52
I just hope it will have TrackIR support or I will be dissapointed.
 A few more official freight shipping missions would be nice too. Seems there are more boat missions then ship missions.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 14:07:32
I agree with what you are saying here Paul, lack of communication is not a good thing. Perhaps they should have let us know perhaps even yesterday. Although they did say that the patch would come out in September, so they were not wrong but should not have posted 17th August and get peoples hopes up.


matrixclese, Shipsim 08 is not broken for me  ???

I have had a couple of ships sink on me but I have found the game to be fairly stable and fine to be released. Although if they had implemented some of the new features into the game and released it later I would not have complained  ;D
Cheers,
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 14:07:46
I'm sure you'll all agree that Vstep have kept us informed as much as possible, but they are extremely busy getting this patch ready for us all to enjoy Ship Simulator to the full extent ;)

There are most likely very good reasons why the patch was delayed, it may have been a last minute thing and it wasn't possible to inform members of the delay until now.  It is unfortunate, but nothing in life is perfect and these things do happen, wouldn't you agree?

At least we do know that the patch is still being developed, I have been involved in situations where developers have abondoned the community completely, we can rest assured that this is not happening in this case :)

As far as the 'broken game' issue, not all bugs are detectable in development or testing, again it is unfortunate, but sometimes unavoidable also.

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: matrixclese on August 17, 2007, 14:11:46
Well maybe im the only one with "broken" problems then...

-Ship models dissappearing
-missions crashing after 30-45 min into it

I love the game when it works, but im scared to start a long mission because i fear it will just crash in the middle of it.

Is the patch gonna address any of these problems?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 14:14:58
Well maybe im the only one with "broken" problems then...

-Ship models dissappearing
-missions crashing after 30-45 min into it

I love the game when it works, but im scared to start a long mission because i fear it will just crash in the middle of it.

Is the patch gonna address any of these problems?

I didn't mean to single you out here matrixclese, sorry of it seemed that way. I just have not had anything happen like you. I have had the game crash on me before but I think that was because A) I don't quite have enough RAM and B) because I kept Alt - Tab out and in to the game.

Some ship models disappear and if you walk around the ship and point the cam to the sky it starts to fly  ;D

Should all be fixed in the patch though.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 14:15:35
Any bugs that are in the game are being addressed with the patch :)

Development of any product is a long laborious project and it takes time to get things 'just right' ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on August 17, 2007, 14:17:23
I'm sure we can all agree on one thing, it will be worth the wait ;)

Not too long to wait eh, 2 weeks will 'sail by' :D

Regards.

DJM.

I am not agree >:( The most schools will begin next week, and then it will go wery SLOW! :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 14:24:02
I am not agree >:( The most schools will begin next week, and then it will go wery SLOW! :(

Again, an unfortunate and unavoidable situation.  I have no doubt that Vstep are working tirelessly to release this patch as soon as is humanly possible.  I know waiting is not nice, but as I said previously, it will be worth the wait :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 14:28:08
I think this is bad PR, why didnt Vstep publish this information earlier on their website that the patch is delayed, i doubt that vstep came to the conclusion today that they need more time for testing.

If you want to play with the big boys then at least announce this officially as soon as its clear that a deadline is unreachable and dont let your customers wait until the last moment!

If this was a company like Microsoft or Electronic Arts we would have a press release weeks before release.

If Vstep cares about its customers then they should make up with the customer inconveniance of selling them a alpha version of their game and delaying updates by adding even more extra content!

Well said. Normally i'd stick up for VSTEP and we're all normally patient people here but this time I agree with you about PR. And i have to say  I am disppointed sadly.

EDIT: Still nothing about this on the shipsim sight.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 14:30:36
Well said. Normally i'd stick up for VSTEP and we're all normally patient people here but this time I agree with you about PR. And i have to say  I am disppointed sadly.

I can understand that and I also know that many of you feel exactly the same way.  All I can do is apologise for this situation and again reassure you that as soon as the patch is ready to be released, it will be :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wetwarev7 on August 17, 2007, 14:32:26
Again, an unfortunate and unavoidable situation.  I have no doubt that Vstep are working tirelessly to release this patch as soon as is humanly possible.  I know waiting is not nice, but as I said previously, it will be worth the wait :)

Regards.

DJM.

Heh...Nice flak jacket DJM

Deliverer of bad news, AND cannon fodder  :P No wonder you chose a Matrix avatar!


I'm disappointed the patch isn't coming out today. I was hoping to mess around with the mission editor before I went out of town  :-[
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 14:36:07
Heh...Nice flak jacket DJM

Deliverer of bad news, AND cannon fodder  :P

LOL, I have no problem answering members questions on this matter.  That's what we're here for ultimately ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Eelkon on August 17, 2007, 14:47:35
Why another two weeks. >:(
the release was today isn it?

Greetz,

Eelkon
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 14:49:45
Why another two weeks. >:(
the release was today isn it?

Greetz,

Eelkon

As I stated in my first post, the release is delayed for development purposes :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 15:13:02
Hey guys calm down a bit. I'm sure VSTEP want to release this patch as much as you do, means a break for them  :P

But seriously I'm sure they are working hard to get this patch released. Sometimes things don't go to plan and that can't be helped. I agree with the fact that they should not have published the release date too early and letting us know at the last minute.

Just wait..
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Ship Sim on August 17, 2007, 15:16:34
Know I dont want the patch to come. That means that i only have a fiew weeks tilll summer vaycation is over and school starts back. :'( :'( :'( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on August 17, 2007, 15:22:30
I have had experience before with a "company" that released a film, it was never on time and could be several months late (sequals) where they almost each week promissed a release date and never cept it. There was also this game I wated for, I think it's till this day more then 2 years late and they also promise that it will be released a certain date but never is. So I'm a really patient person nowadays, I wasn't that suppriesed and more or less already made it clear that it would not be released. But I'm still always dissapointed and will always be. I remember something simular happend to 2006 version aswell. I do agree however that it is bad that a company release news on a delay the same day it was to be released. That's just plain ignorant. I'm refering to the whole company and don't hold the messanger accountable for this ignorance! ;)

On the other hand, VSTEP is the best company when it comes to listening to the players, I know game developers that never listens and just realease a game thats worse then the one before it, and then complains that they are losing sales because "fans" leave them and are ungreatful. The company name starts with Nova.....

So I will defenetly forgive Vstep for this misshap as I know that they are doing this for me as a gamer and that is just not something that happens alot. Only other manufacurer/publisher I felt cared about me as a gamer and consumer is DICE AB/EA Games with their Battlefield series!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wetwarev7 on August 17, 2007, 15:24:13
I allways like watching these things unfold....

If the patch is delayed, the community revolts.

If the patch is released with bugs, the community revolts.

If a patch were ever released on time with no bugs, I'd revolt.  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on August 17, 2007, 15:25:34
Here is what I'd love the patch or any future addon to fix.


To hear my footsteps as I bob up and down the deck like in SS2006
Stop shaking camera when walking on the deck of Titanic
To hear the creaks of the wooden and steel decks groan as the ship sways side to side
To fix a lighting or shadow glitch that's on the right side of the whole length of the Titanic

(Big projects)
Mission Editor
Multiplayer
Lights on ships at night
Morse Code missions
Ship Creator/Designer
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 15:26:43
As I stated in my first post, the release is delayed for development purposes :)

Regards.

DJM.

I will rather wait another 14 days and have the perfect patch that solves all problems, than have a patch that, later on, needs to be patched. (With this delay it will be perfect, right?  ;D  ) Maybe there will be something extra to compensate for the wait  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 15:30:36
I will rather wait another 14 days and have the perfect patch that solves all problems, than have a patch that, later on, needs to be patched. (With this delay it will be perfect, right?  ;D  ) Maybe there will be something extra to compensate for the wait  ;D

Any issues that need addressing are being worked on as we type :)

As far as 'something extra', I can't tell you any more than I have, the patch details we will be informed about when the time is right ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 15:32:38
I will rather wait another 14 days and have the perfect patch that solves all problems, than have a patch that, later on, needs to be patched. (With this delay it will be perfect, right?  ;D  ) Maybe there will be something extra to compensate for the wait  ;D

I hope that's the case. They might be doing something major that they didn't put on their site   ;D

I think the suggestions above are bang on. I'd also love these implemented on the sim.

AlexKall: I see what you mean by what you said, although didn't VSTEP release SS08 download early? I can't quite remember.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 15:44:36
Hey guys calm down a bit. I'm sure VSTEP want to release this patch as much as you do, means a break for them  :P

But seriously I'm sure they are working hard to get this patch released. Sometimes things don't go to plan and that can't be helped. I agree with the fact that they should not have published the release date too early and letting us know at the last minute.

Just wait..

I can't calm down! I was practically craving for the mission editor :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Poncho on August 17, 2007, 15:56:13
 ;D

Some comments make me laugh!
Just relax guys!! 2 weeks is not that much... just dont keep on thinking about that!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 16:55:27
;D

Some comments make me laugh!
Just relax guys!! 2 weeks is not that much... just dont keep on thinking about that!!!  ;)

You are right. After all 2 weeks is only 14 days, or 336 hours, or 20160 minutes or 1209600 seconds but who is counting.  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 16:59:23
You are right. After all 2 weeks is only 14 days, or 336 hours, or 20160 minutes or 1209600 seconds but who is counting.  ;D

Not you of course  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on August 17, 2007, 17:06:46
I hope that's the case. They might be doing something major that they didn't put on their site   ;D

I think the suggestions above are bang on. I'd also love these implemented on the sim.

AlexKall: I see what you mean by what you said, although didn't VSTEP release SS08 download early? I can't quite remember.

If I wrote 2008 it was supposed to say 2006, I think there was a patch annouched that was delayed, but it might be a déjavu thing going on  ;)

Quote from: Shipaddict

I can't calm down! I was practically craving for the mission editor

There is (or atleast was) nothing regarding the mission editor being released in the first patch, it's said to be released as a seperate download, which means that it's unlikley that it will be released as of the first patch, but who knows.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: bowie on August 17, 2007, 17:10:52
well just as long as the patch fixes major problems with the game im not that bothered about waiting as long as its worth it...what i dont understand is why vstep didnt take an extra 2 weeks to 'finetune' the actual game so that there would be no need for this patch...

cant wait for it though
 :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 17:12:26
If I wrote 2008 it was supposed to say 2006, I think there was a patch annouched that was delayed, but it might be a déjavu thing going on  ;)

There is (or atleast was) nothing regarding the mission editor being releast in the first patch, it's said to be released as a seperate download, which means that it's unlikley that it will be released as of the first patch, but who knows.

Hmm... I think we're both getting confused. Must be all this work and no play  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Trip4x4 on August 17, 2007, 17:33:38
I'm actually quite thankful that VStep has delayed the release of this patch - a lot of companies set a time and date, and, if they realize they can't deliver a good product in time, they cut corners where they can, which results in some people not being able to use their product. Personally speaking, I've had experience with rushed releases, and I can say this from experience: The bugs that suddenly show up after a rushed release seem to never end, and the complaints from them, seem to follow suit shortly thereafter.

Perhaps P.R. could have made an official press release, but, they didn't. Furthermore, we still received the same information, just not in a press release. I'm satisfied with that.

VStep, thank you for doing a good job, and not cutting corners.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on August 17, 2007, 17:43:49
Hmm... I think we're both getting confused. Must be all this work and no play  :D

Yes it must be, my memory do fail me once in a while so I might defenetly and even might be likley that I am wrong in that aspect. It's not important, I can't blame them, it is complex to make a game perfect, actually it's impossible even with testing sessions. I could never pull of doing anything when it comes to game design. I will always however be disapointed when it's not released when told and I'm sure it's because I love this game and want it perfect in the first minute I get it, I'm impatient when it comes to getting an ordered product on mail, electronicly because I'm looking forward to it so much. So sorry to Vstep if I was to harsh as I know nothing when it comes to making a game. I program PLC's so I know that no program is perfect at first face, it takes tinkering and fine tuning for some time after the "product" (in my case it's a program for a machine most often) has been released and it doesn't always come on time either!

Wow I made a 180 degree turn in this thread  :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: CubanSailor on August 17, 2007, 17:46:08
Thats f*****g b******t. Bad corporate ethics. If you say August 17th, I expect August 17th.

Don't come and tell me last minute you cant release it.

bad BAD move VSTEP. I'm doubting your commitment to this product.

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Trip4x4 on August 17, 2007, 17:47:27
Thats [censored] [censored]. Bad corporate ethics. If you say August 17th, I expect August 17th.

Don't come and tell me last minute you cant release it.

bad BAD move VSTEP. I'm doubting your commitment to this product.

I'd doubt commitment if they released a shotty product. So far, this further proves that they are very committed, in my mind.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Ballast on August 17, 2007, 17:50:19
The patch should better be right...  >:( :(  :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 17:55:53
Thats f*****g bull****. Bad corporate ethics. If you say August 17th, I expect August 17th.

Don't come and tell me last minute you cant release it.

bad BAD move VSTEP. I'm doubting your commitment to this product.

I sure hope a moderator reads your post and removes it. There is no need for language and even a post like that. If you have something to say, say it in a polite way. I do not contribute to these forums to see people slagging other people off and I'm sure other people don't also. Children read these forums and I don't think you should be using language like that.

If you feel this way about VSTEP and the game, then why bother playing it at all and contributing to the forums in this manner?

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Trip4x4 on August 17, 2007, 17:59:52
I sure hope a moderator reads your post and removes it. There is no need for language and even a post like that. If you have something to say, say it in a polite way. I do not contribute to these forums to see people slagging other people off and I'm sure other people don't also. Children read these forums and I don't think you should be using language like that.

If you feel this way about VSTEP and the game, then why bother playing it at all and contributing to the forums in this manner?



I don't know why, but I get a kick out of people who have absolutely no idea how much work goes into scripting and coding, and then, they complain when it isn't exactly what they want.

Folks, this isn't something that you can just learn overnight, coding software takes thousands if not hundreds of thousands of hours to properly compile and have a solid working copy. Then, take into account, that certain parts of the coding will interfere with another part, and, in order to resolve this, something has to be completely re-written in order for it not to be in conflict with something else. This isn't easy, and for VStep to be putting the effort into fixing it, rather than just releasing it, is why I say the delay proves that they are committed to a high-quality release.

Just a note - A "part" of a script, can easily be well over 1,000,000 lines long. It's entirely possible that ShipSim has a billion, or more, lines of code to make it work.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: CubanSailor on August 17, 2007, 18:03:04
If a mod "deletes" my post. That would be censorship.

I think I have the right to say what I want, aslong as it's within reason. Im simply displaying my opinion.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 18:04:06
Hahaha, that language must be the norm for him  :D

I love it when that happens.

Anyway, I guess it's all for the best. Not everyone can keep promises to such a degree. They said the 17th, but it just wasn't ready. It's a similar reason to why I myself do not make "promises" for certain dates and such.

But I think it does show commitment. If they weren't committed to making a good game, don't you think that they would just rush it out and do a really half-a**d job? I don't think so.
Now take Maxis, for example. Their games are usually pretty good. Yeah, there are some bugs, as NO game is without bugs, but they are still pretty good. They don't RUSH out every release like other companies. In fact, I'm sure that's why SPORE won't be released till' next year. They want to make it a good game!
And so, VSTEP wants to make SS08 a good game too!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 18:07:23
If a mod "deletes" my post. That would be censorship.

I think I have the right to say what I want, aslong as it's within reason. Im simply displaying my opinion.

Yes but there is no need to use language like that!!  :(

You can express your opinion without using fowl language!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on August 17, 2007, 18:11:44
Zzzzzzzz. waiting waiting. Sukk  My wife are on work , my child are in bed. And i are waiting for the patch. Over powered on coffe and smoke. :) ARGH i c it now.  :(  bad bad bad.   wait 2 more weeks, yeah and after 2 more weeks, we must wait 2 more weeks,  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 18:13:58
If a mod "deletes" my post. That would be censorship.

I think I have the right to say what I want, aslong as it's within reason. Im simply displaying my opinion.

Your post hasn't been deleted, it has been altered though.  The following statement is from the forum rules, which we are all required to follow:

Profanity
Offensive language is unacceptable. A simple rule to follow is: "when in doubt, leave it out." You don't have to use excessive profanity to get your point across, and it's usually better to avoid it altogether. Profanity in posts will be edited out. Repeat offenders or those who use excessive profanity may lose the privilege to post on the forum.


Just a friendly reminder there ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 17, 2007, 18:14:57
I don't know why, but I get a kick out of people who have absolutely no idea how much work goes into scripting and coding, and then, they complain when it isn't exactly what they want.

Folks, this isn't something that you can just learn overnight, coding software takes thousands if not hundreds of thousands of hours to properly compile and have a solid working copy. Then, take into account, that certain parts of the coding will interfere with another part, and, in order to resolve this, something has to be completely re-written in order for it not to be in conflict with something else. This isn't easy, and for VStep to be putting the effort into fixing it, rather than just releasing it, is why I say the delay proves that they are committed to a high-quality release.

Just a note - A "part" of a script, can easily be well over 1,000,000 lines long. It's entirely possible that ShipSim has a billion, or more, lines of code to make it work.

I don't see why you quoted me lol. I fully understand the amount of work involved in creating a game such as this one and I give credit to the guys over at VSTEP. They have done an excellent job in creating such a great sim.

 I myself build websites for a living and know to a certain extent how long it can take to code something, some of my sites have bugs and it can take a fair while to fix them.

Hudizzle: I agree with your comments. This does show that VSTEP are committed to the game. I don't mind bugs in a game (unless of course it's unbearable to play) as long as they come out with a patch. Thing is, VSTEP are not only releasing a patch, but are also adding more functionality to the game so really you're getting more than just a few bug fixes.

..and I can't wait until Spore is released. Looks like a brilliant game!   ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on August 17, 2007, 18:16:11
Your post hasn't been deleted, it has been altered though.  The following statement is from the forum rules, which we are all required to follow:

Profanity
Offensive language is unacceptable. A simple rule to follow is: "when in doubt, leave it out." You don't have to use excessive profanity to get your point across, and it's usually better to avoid it altogether. Profanity in posts will be edited out. Repeat offenders or those who use excessive profanity may lose the privilege to post on the forum.


Just a friendly reminder there ;)

Regards.

DJM.

I can't really see why "c**p" is not allowed... I mean, the only ones that could possibly take damage is two year old babies and 89 year old grannys... we have neither of those here. :P

Edited for language, DJM.  Some people find that word offensive, maybe you could type *carp* instead ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Poncho on August 17, 2007, 18:21:56
I can't really see why "c**p" is not allowed... I mean, the only ones that could possibly take damage is two year old babies and 89 year old grannys... we have neither of those here. :P

I've been moderating since 5 years ago in other forums, and "c**p" is not allowed in any of them.-
Its not a matter of ages, just of respect/politness and no offense.-

 ;)

Getting back to the post!,
Take it easy guys, we should all understand that no one, neither we users nor Vstep wanted to delay the patch on purpose. It should obviously happen for our benefit.-

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wetwarev7 on August 17, 2007, 18:30:40


As far as 'something extra', I can't tell you any more than I have, the patch details we will be informed about when the time is right ;)

DJM.

Am I the only one here who reads something into this statement?

If I didn't know better, I'd think we will all be pleasantly surprised when we see why the patch was delayed.....

Of course, this is how rumours get started.  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 18:32:34
2 weeks and I'll be in school and won't have time to play games. :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 18:33:53
Edited for language, DJM.  Some people find that word offensive, maybe you could type *carp* instead ;)

Bad editing DJM. It is not the word or the letters that is offending, but the meaning. If you allow CARP in stead of that other word (won't type it, I will not be edited ;D ) people will still know the meaning. So in fact you allow offending words as long as it is not spelled right, you even recommend it  ;D

[off topic ]
Oh btw: What is [RWP] in front of your name? Gaming clan?
[/ off topic ]

 
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wetwarev7 on August 17, 2007, 18:34:12
2 weeks and I'll be in school and won't have time to play games. :'(

A few years and you'll be married, and you STILL won't have time to play games.  ;D lol
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 18:37:24
Edited for language, DJM.  Some people find that word offensive, maybe you could type *carp* instead ;)

Bad editing DJM. It is not the word or the letters that is offending, but the meaning. If you allow CARP in stead of that other word (won't type it, I will not be edited ;D ) people will still know the meaning. So in fact you allow offending words as long as it is not spelled right, you even recommend it  ;D

LOL, not at all, I was merely suggesting that members could avoid using the words in the first place, then there would be no problems ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 18:40:56
LOL, not at all, I was merely suggesting that members could avoid using the words in the first place, then there would be no problems ;)

DJM.
Indeed ;D

You forgot this or maybe you were typing while I was editing ;D :
[off topic ]
Oh btw: What is [RWP] in front of your name? Gaming clan?
[/ off topic ]


Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jordan on August 17, 2007, 18:42:03
CubanSailer I'm with you bud.

I think it is horrible that VSTEP releases a date of a major patch to be released with features that everyone wants and then they don't give us anything. We payed for their product and when they release a date for a major patch release, they should work to their fullest to get it prepared. And if they can't prepare it in that amount of time, announce that the date has been changed, but not on the last minute ... Thats just unacceptable.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 18:47:07
CubanSailer I'm with you bud.

We payed for their product and when they release a date for a major patch release, they should work to their fullest to get it prepared. And if they can't prepare it in that amount of time, announce that the date has been changed, but not on the last minute ... Thats just unacceptable.

Jordan it is human to make an error. Vstep did just that but it is not a big one. You paid for the game as it is, not future patches. They come for free. Things can get delayed when unforeseen events happens.
 
If it is unacceptable to you what will you do?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 17, 2007, 18:54:37
There is (or atleast was) nothing regarding the mission editor being released in the first patch, it's said to be released as a seperate download, which means that it's unlikley that it will be released as of the first patch, but who knows.

Please see the announcments forum. There's a post from pjotr saying "The mission editor will be released in the August 17th patch" Inside it said it was due to popular demand.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 18:55:35
Indeed ;D

You forgot this or maybe you were typing while I was editing ;D :
[off topic ]
Oh btw: What is [RWP] in front of your name? Gaming clan?
[/ off topic ]

I must have missed that, sorry :-[

RWP is an acronym for Real World Productions, check the Movie link in my signature ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 19:00:02
I must have missed that, sorry :-[

RWP is an acronym for Real World Productions, check the Movie link in my signature ;)

Regards.

DJM.

Okay.  I thought it might be a gaming clan and it would have been fun to do a fun match with my clan if you played the games we did ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 19:02:22
Okay.  I thought it might be a gaming clan and it would have been fun to do a fun match with my clan if you played the games we did ;D

It originally came from my Music Videos, but............

It is a also a gaming clan that I founded last October, as far as I know it still exists too ;)

Check the forums here (http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=rwp) ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 19:04:25
It originally came from my Music Videos, but............

It is a also a gaming clan that I founded last October, as far as I know it still exists too ;)

Check the forums here (http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=rwp) ;)

Regards.

DJM.


Nice :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 19:08:04

Nice :)

Thanks :)

The new clan information is available here:

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,609.0.html

This one is for Ship Simulator only, when it goes online later this year :D

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2007, 19:20:19
Thanks :)

The new clan information is available here:

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,609.0.html

This one is for Ship Simulator only, when it goes online later this year :D

Regards.

DJM.

It would be fun to do a Capture the flag with super tankers :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 19:22:46
It would be fun to do a Capture the flag with super tankers :)

Indeed :D

Maybe we should continue this discussion in the other topic ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 19:31:07
A few years and you'll be married, and you STILL won't have time to play games.  ;D lol

Yep,

I will always have an excuse for getting mad at VSTEP :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Eelkon on August 17, 2007, 19:35:15
Hi.

DJM you have already a clan ??? MPSS im already registered ;D

Greetz,

Eelkon
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 19:37:31
Hi.

DJM you have already a clan ??? MPSS im already registered ;D

Greetz,

Eelkon

Yes, RWP was my old clan, I've not been involved with that for months now ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Eelkon on August 17, 2007, 19:58:08
Oke Thanks, buth gonna we play(al the members of MPSS) together on Ship Simulator online?

Greetz,

Eelkon
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 17, 2007, 20:25:57
Two weeks eh? Oh well I suppose I'd better order in A LOT more coffee then! LOL!! :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::) :-*
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 20:27:08
Two weeks eh? Oh well I suppose I'd better order in A LOT more coffee then! LOL!! :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::) :-*

LOL, not too much.....it's not good for ya ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 17, 2007, 21:03:26
they could have been non-lazy for one day in there long lives...

Could have even had the web server put it on automatically!

Edit: I give up good night everyone!
<sarcasm>That's right. They are EXTREMELY LAZY and never do any work at all. How did they manage to make 06 AND 08 within 2 years?</sarcasm>
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 17, 2007, 21:06:13
Not too long to wait eh, 2 weeks will 'sail by' :D

Oh dear... groan.. suddenly my 'patience' comment doesn't seem so bad, Mr DJM. ;)

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 21:08:18
Oh dear... groan.. suddenly my 'patience' comment doesn't seem so bad, Mr DJM. ;)

Stu

:D Luckily I have loads of patience......I'm practically giving it away, any takers?  ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 21:09:03
<sarcasm>That's right. They are EXTREMELY LAZY and never do any work at all. How did they manage to make 06 AND 08 within 2 years?</sarcasm>


 :D

Yeah, how did they manage that?

I'm sure making Ship Sim is like any other job... do you really want to be working 24/7 every single day?
VSTEP devs probably have lives too. It's not like there's an automated factory that makes these games (except for the CDs).
Plus, doesn't VSTEP work on other projects too?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 21:10:07
:D Luckily I have loads of patience......I'm practically giving it away, any takers?  ;)

Regards.

DJM.


Yes, I would like 2 weeks worth of patience please  :D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 21:11:31

Yes, I would like 2 weeks worth of patience please  :D ;D

ROFL, maybe I shouldn't have said anything.....I may have none left by next week, so watch out guys :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 17, 2007, 21:14:08
I think I have the right to say what I want, aslong as it's within reason. Im simply displaying my opinion.

And you think swearing is within reason do you? DJM was quite right to edit your post and I would have done the same.

Stuart
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 17, 2007, 22:01:05
And you think swearing is within reason do you? DJM was quite right to edit your post and I would have done the same.

Stuart

I am 13 and was 12 just a month ago, I would leave the forum if language like that was on every post. So you shouldn't be arguing about it. (That was at CubanSailor)

DJM, can I have 2 weeks of patience, maybe 4 just incase.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 22:07:31
I am 13 and was 12 just a month ago, I would leave the forum if language like that was on every post. So you shouldn't be arguing about it. (That was at CubanSailor)

DJM, can I have 2 weeks of patience, maybe 4 just incase.

That is the reason for editing posts that contain offensive language, because it can offend a lot of people OR their parents ;)

Our younger members don't need to see that kind of language, I would hate to know that my young relatives were seeing that kind of thing :o

I need help now......patience...wearing...thin....everyone....is....taking....it ;D

At least I still have my sense of humour....for now ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 17, 2007, 22:09:51
DJM, you should put your sense of humor in a safe. Then put that safe in a safe, because before you know it, everybody is going to be asking for humor too  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 17, 2007, 22:10:11
Hey DJM!
I think I might need one or two extra days of patience ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 22:11:21
Hey DJM!
I think I might need one or two extra days of patience ;)


LOL, should I give up now or later.....either way, it's inevitable ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 22:12:08
DJM, you should put your sense of humor in a safe. Then put that safe in a safe, because before you know it, everybody is going to be asking for humor too  :D

Now there's an idea ;D
/me runs off to get a safe ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 17, 2007, 22:15:20
I have a safe....you could use it if I get two days of your patience ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 22:17:06
I have a safe....you could use it if I get two days of your patience ;D

Heh ;D

How did this topic spiral out of control?  More to the point, who's at the helm? :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 17, 2007, 22:18:26
Well, Mr DJM... YOU are a moderator... and YOU have posted more than I have in here...

Sorry Captain DJM... skipper must go down with his ship/forum
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 17, 2007, 22:19:26
Well, Mr DJM... YOU are a moderator... and YOU have posted more than I have in here...

Sorry Captain DJM... skipper must go down with his ship/forum

I was wondering why I was suddenly getting that sinking feeling :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 18, 2007, 00:07:35
Hehe I've been watching this and it's everso funny  :D

I could use some patience right now, specially as I'm snowed under with 4 urgent sites to build and less time to play shipsim  :'(

and yes I'm afraid the mods have let this thread spiral out of control so he must go down with his ship although he might just use the Matrix to help him out  ;D ;) :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on August 18, 2007, 03:43:26
as of right now i'm on the Norwegian Dawn cruise ship in the middle of the atlantic ocean. I like everyone else am wondering, wheres the patch. KM
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 18, 2007, 04:01:32
as of right now i'm on the Norwegian Dawn cruise ship in the middle of the atlantic ocean. I like everyone else am wondering, wheres the patch. KM


Norwegian Dawn?

Isn't that the cruise ship that was hit head on by a rogue wave? Caused a bunch of damage to the forward section/facade, or whatever it is.

I saw it on a History Channel documentary about rogue waves. Actually, I have it on the Poseidon movie DVD too, as bonus material. I can always check it  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 18, 2007, 04:23:02
In fact it was!

I was on the Norwegian Star just a few months ago.

This topic is such a laugh now ^.^
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 18, 2007, 04:46:56
Haha, well if that's the case... let's keep it open for a few laughs!!!  ;D :D ;D ::) :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Ship Sim on August 18, 2007, 04:56:12
Lets move it to small talk so it dosent get deleted.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on August 18, 2007, 08:28:21
Anyone got a time machine ::)
D.J.M you have the patience of a Saint :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 18, 2007, 13:22:42
and yes I'm afraid the mods have let this thread spiral out of control so he must go down with his ship although he might just use the Matrix to help him out  ;D ;) :D

LOL, the Ship Sim Forum Has Me ;D


D.J.M you have the patience of a Saint :D

Heh, I wish.  I do have a lot of patience though.....comes from years of practice and working in the Customer Service sector ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 18, 2007, 15:30:19
i just came back from my summer vacation, an i tought:    mmm, fine now the vacation is over i can download the patch so that the last part of the summer vacation will be great, but when i came on the homepage and i read:  no patches availible yet i thought.. WHATTE@#!  and now i read this  :'(

and precisly the patch will release when my vacation is over  >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dannyb12 on August 18, 2007, 20:02:18
I really cant believe this, at least another 2 weeks, I am getting on to trading standards about releasing a game and charging good money with more bugs flying around in it than the local hospital.  This really is poor service and shows a lack of comitment.  Sorry if my words are harsh but if Vstep dont sort thier act out it wont take long for everyones patience to run out.  Words of wisdom, make sure its working properly and as advertised before selling to the general public, that way you avoid dissapointment and disgruntled customers! 

P.S I thought I was buying a completed game, not a beta version, beta versions are usually free

thanks
danny
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 18, 2007, 20:11:44
sorry to ask a silly question, but when will the patch be released please??

Hi Danny!

Nobody knows for sure. Probably within 2 weeks. Remember that the mission editor originally wasn't supposed to be included in the patch. The last official new on the patch is here:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1733.msg17014.html#msg17014

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: donc13 on August 18, 2007, 21:06:11
I really cant believe this, at least another 2 weeks, I am getting on to trading standards about releasing a game and charging good money with more bugs flying around in it than the local hospital.  This really is poor service and shows a lack of comitment.  Sorry if my words are harsh but if Vstep dont sort thier act out it wont take long for everyones patience to run out.  Words of wisdom, make sure its working properly and as advertised before selling to the general public, that way you avoid dissapointment and disgruntled customers! 

P.S I thought I was buying a completed game, not a beta version, beta versions are usually free

thanks
danny

Come on, lighten up.   It's a game.   It's not the end of the world.    Considering the complexity and time involved just to create a ship and the environments....I think VStep has done a heck of a job.   

Honest...you'll live if you have to wait 2 days, 2 weeks or 2 months for the first patch.   It's free, so it's not like you're going to lose anything if you don't get the patch today.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 18, 2007, 22:08:37
I really cant believe this, at least another 2 weeks, I am getting on to trading standards about releasing a game and charging good money with more bugs flying around in it than the local hospital.  This really is poor service and shows a lack of comitment.  Sorry if my words are harsh but if Vstep dont sort thier act out it wont take long for everyones patience to run out.  Words of wisdom, make sure its working properly and as advertised before selling to the general public, that way you avoid dissapointment and disgruntled customers! 

P.S I thought I was buying a completed game, not a beta version, beta versions are usually free

thanks
danny
Hi Daniel. Trading standards of WHICH country? ( I guess from your hospital quip you are here in GB) Not sure trading standards here have any authority in the Netherlands. For the record, TS rarely act against a company that has acknowledged an issue and is actively dealing with it.

Lack of committment, as has been pointed out before, is generally attributable to companies that do not subsequently act on issues. Vstep is.

Your words aren't harsh as such- just ill thought out. I think if you take the time to look around the forum you will see most people here are a friendly sort of lot- who are disappointed, yes- but generally not acting up with 'legal threats'.

If I may respectfully suggest: A well thought out, polite, structured and objective post about the issue would maybe reflect well on you and help put your point across.

As for beta version... ALthough it has issues- which should have been addressed, true- I would not call it a beta version. The reality is, Daniel, that things rarely go to plan. It is a regrettable fact of life that sometimes deadlines must be met at all costs. There are publishing/ retailing agreements to honour. Most of these have already been discussed...

Stuart
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on August 19, 2007, 00:06:27
yea i was on he Norwegian Dawn, i'm home now. I don't think the dawn was hit by a rogue wave to my knowledge. KM
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 19, 2007, 00:20:32
Hi Daniel. Trading standards of WHICH country? ( I guess from your hospital quip you are here in GB) Not sure trading standards here have any authority in the Netherlands. For the record, TS rarely act against a company that has acknowledged an issue and is actively dealing with it.

Lack of committment, as has been pointed out before, is generally attributable to companies that do not subsequently act on issues. Vstep is.

Your words aren't harsh as such- just ill thought out. I think if you take the time to look around the forum you will see most people here are a friendly sort of lot- who are disappointed, yes- but generally not acting up with 'legal threats'.

If I may respectfully suggest: A well thought out, polite, structured and objective post about the issue would maybe reflect well on you and help put your point across.

As for beta version... ALthough it has issues- which should have been addressed, true- I would not call it a beta version. The reality is, Daniel, that things rarely go to plan. It is a regrettable fact of life that sometimes deadlines must be met at all costs. There are publishing/ retailing agreements to honour. Most of these have already been discussed...

Stuart

Thank you, that was well said.

I don't see why people are getting so worked up about a couple of weeks. I don't mean to offend anyone but this really is JUST a game. It's not the end of the world and certainly not the end of Ship Simulator. I like the fact that there is a large active community here and people from VSTEP (or are directly involved with SS) are keeping the game alive by adding more patches and ships ect.

I feel we should all be happy about the fact that VSTEP are taking their time to get this patch out. After all it was to be released in September anyway. The longer they work on it the better the patch can be so give them time. It does (as discussed before) take a long time to build these kinds of games, but I won't delve into detail here.

Danny please just be patient about the patch. VSTEP want the patch out as much as the rest of us  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: BlackBat on August 19, 2007, 11:53:17
Hello together,

well, in some points I can agree with danyb and understand what he's thinking. I'm also a trader (with experience in business) and study s.th. like this. When I would tell a customer: "I will send you your order on the xx." it means that I'm "forced" to send this on the special date and not some weeks later. I wrote "forced" because on the one side it's kind of a contract (if not in written form than in verbal form) what means that the customer can force me to pay a penality and on the other hand I want to keep the trust in my company or what else.
When you remember the spring/summer of 2006 the fans of the ship simulator 2006 where forced to wait 1 month more because the original release date was totaly wrong calculated. And this year a dejavu happend: we had to wait for the SS'08 again. Obviously the 2 days delay now for the patch are not the appocalypse, but I - and I guess others too - are interested to see that VSTEP keeps the pronounced release dates.
BUT there is one thing: When these days are successfully used to solve several bugs(like bottman wrote in the german forum), then I aggree with this strategy.

In conclusion: VSTEP WHEN YOU NEED MORE TIME TO SOLVE SOME MORE BUGS, THEN TELL US ABOUT THE DELAYS FOR EXAMPLE WITH A MAIL OR A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT ON YOUR HOMEPAGE!!!
WE WANT TO BE INFORMED!!!

thanks for your attention

mfg blackbat
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 19, 2007, 12:04:49
I can't calm down! I was practically craving for the mission editor :'(

You'll be pleased to know that i've calmed down now ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 19, 2007, 12:06:40
You'll be pleased to know that i've calmed down now ;D

Heh, we all have days AND things that annoy us eh ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 19, 2007, 12:52:06
In conclusion: VSTEP WHEN YOU NEED MORE TIME TO SOLVE SOME MORE BUGS, THEN TELL US ABOUT THE DELAYS FOR EXAMPLE WITH A MAIL OR A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT ON YOUR HOMEPAGE!!!
WE WANT TO BE INFORMED!!!

The problem is much more complicated than that though.

You have worldwide release date (actually several dates) when manufacturers are standing ready to 'press' discs.
The publisher will have arranged transport from disc producer to retailer.
The publisher will have to co-ordinate publicity for a release
The retailer will have allocated space on the 'just in' shelf for this release

I think I have said all of this before somewhere. The problem that you don't understand is that there is still the distribution and sales to consider after it has left vstep. These things are worked out months in advance.

I know of a company that missed its publication date and the publisher cancelled the agreement to publish the software. It CAN and DOES happen from time to time. Microsoft can dictate terms to distributors, smaller companies can not.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 19, 2007, 12:52:36
Heh, we all have days AND things that annoy us eh ;)
And I know what's annoying me at the moment  ;)

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Brian on August 19, 2007, 13:17:06
We all know this is a game and have no choice other than to wait for patches. We know about distribution and release dates. We also know that errors can be made and that patches are part of the world we live in blah, blah, blah.....

I own my own company which develops products for sale and when we create something new, it comes out of my pocket to develop and produce something complete for the public to buy. Maybe, I'm a minority but, doing business this way shields me from the disappointment of customers who may buy something that either isn't finished or doesn't work as advertised.

It is very troubling that any company knowingly sells an incomplete product, collects money for the "software" which isn't finished while using the customer's payments to aid in finishing what should have been finished with the exception of bug fixes. Had VSTEP not sold and collected funds to work with, would the game development have stopped? If this is the case, it's not a very respectable way of doing business. You wind up under pressure to finally finish it while people are screaming that the sense of a good job done goes out the window. Glad I don't run my own company this way.

Patiently awaiting the patch
Disappointed,
Brian

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 19, 2007, 13:24:36
Like most things in life, this is a case of 'swings & roundabouts' (may be a UK-only phrase ;)).  People are obviously going to be disappointed with this situation, but things like this are unavoidable, and sometimes, necessary ;)

As stated previously, at least we can rest assured that Vstep are working to give us the game that we all want, they haven't abandoned us :)

I am very confident in Vstep and their policies and always will be, they have delivered a game that is far beyond the achievements of Ship Sim '06 and are still constantly working to develop it further.  Surely most people would agree that this is a good thing and something that we can look forward to, yes?

I am definitely looking forward to future developments in the Ship Sim world, especially Multiplayer :D

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 19, 2007, 13:26:35
Well said!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 19, 2007, 13:33:37
Brian,

You clearly read the posts above. You understand the distribution issues, good.

I am lucky in that my company is a logistics operator and our job is to move people and freight. I don't have to worry about development time etc etc.

Do you design, manufacture, distribute and sell your products yourself without having to work with any other companies at all? If you do you are very lucky indeed.

The problem isn't just confined to Vstep- its the global 'now now now' environment we live in. Everything has to be done in such a narrow timeframe that these things happen all the time. Look at major construction projects (wembley, UK. Olympics, Greece etc) to see that many projects- large and small- over run their target date.

I think your final comment which implies dishonesty or poor ethics on the part of vstep is really unfair. Yes, it is disappointing that this software needs a patch, but it's being addressed.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 19, 2007, 13:35:17
An editorial comment:

Please think about your post before you send it... Are you adding anything new to this discussion. It feels like everyone is making the same comment over and over again. Getting the same reply over and over again.

Please think if there is a way you can make your post a little different- perhaps a new thought of your own on the situation?

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Brian on August 19, 2007, 13:39:23
Stu,

I truly didn't mean to imply dishonesty on the part of VSTEP.

My opinion is just that the world we've come to live in where companies are never finished simply grates me the wrong way.

Brian
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 19, 2007, 13:41:37
Wel all have different views ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 19, 2007, 13:44:11
Brian

You are right in that respect. I try to run my businesses by the book. But many of my fellows in the industry don't and it really winds me up.

However, in the case above that is deliberate- breaking laws to save money etc. In the case of vstep it was just a planing issue. Only the really big companies can dictate the rules to their 'partners'. In summary, Vstep is quite a small cog in a quite big wheel. If you can buck that trend then I say truly, well done to you. It isn't easy.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 19, 2007, 13:45:16
Let's stick to talking about the patch...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 19, 2007, 13:52:17
Thanks shipaddict. That is what we are doing.

Talk of the validity of issuing a patch is quite acceptable, wouldn't you say?

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 19, 2007, 14:04:57
Come to think of it yes! :o

Sorry :-[
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 19, 2007, 16:22:07
An editorial comment:

Please think about your post before you send it... Are you adding anything new to this discussion. It feels like everyone is making the same comment over and over again. Getting the same reply over and over again.

Please think if there is a way you can make your post a little different- perhaps a new thought of your own on the situation?

Stu


I am getting a little deja-vu reading this. In fact, I think somebody might have already used that word on here...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 19, 2007, 16:44:35
Hi Danny!

Nobody knows for sure. Probably within 2 weeks. Remember that the mission editor originally wasn't supposed to be included in the patch. The last official new on the patch is here:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1733.msg17014.html#msg17014

Regards
groennegaard


did he said within?  ;D that is more like it  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 19, 2007, 16:51:31
did he said within?  ;D that is more like it  :D

I also said 'probably'... and 'Nobody knows for sure'...  ;)

The more we wait - the better the patch will be!  :P

groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: pmillett22 on August 19, 2007, 17:38:20
Is there a possibility, if VSTEP finishes the patch before two weeks, they will release it as soon as it's finished? I would have full confidence that VSTEP cares about there customers, if they finished and released asap, even if two weeks hasn't passed.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 20, 2007, 08:59:09
or they just make a 2nd patch  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 20, 2007, 09:01:16
Is there a possibility, if VSTEP finishes the patch before two weeks, they will release it as soon as it's finished? I would have full confidence that VSTEP cares about there customers, if they finished and released asap, even if two weeks hasn't passed.

If the patch is completed ahead of schedule, I'm certain that Vstep would release it, there would be no point in delaying it further if it's finished eh ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 20, 2007, 09:09:26
If the patch is completed ahead of schedule, I'm certain that Vstep would release it, there would be no point in delaying it further if it's finished eh ;)

Regards.

DJM.


I certainly hope so. If they say 2 weeks, and they release it in 9 days, people will be happy  ;D
Well, they'd be happy even if it's 2 weeks. As long as the patch is on its way!  :D
Meanwhile, I'm still trying my hand at a few missions.

By the way, that mission when you have to rescue the crew of a sinking tanker.. is really weird. Mainly because the tanker never looked like it was sinking  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 20, 2007, 09:11:51
By the way, that mission when you have to rescue the crew of a sinking tanker.. is really weird. Mainly because the tanker never looked like it was sinking  :P

LOL, maybe it's a 'slow sinking'......kinda like a delayed reaction :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 20, 2007, 09:26:45
By the way, that mission when you have to rescue the crew of a sinking tanker.. is really weird. Mainly because the tanker never looked like it was sinking  :P

Have you ever watched a sinking in it's full length? It can take several hours. I watched the Fu Shan Hai sinking - it took 8½ hours! Unless there is a structure failure ships just don't disappear from the surface in a matter of minuttes.

The Fu Shan Hai casualty report is here - interesting reading! ;) :
http://soefart.inforce.dk/graphics/synkron-library/dma/uk_pdf/casualtyreports/fu_shan_hai_gdnynia.pdf

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 20, 2007, 09:30:38
Well, it was weird because it was still there after a message came up saying that the tanker was gone.
Not to say that ships go down in 2 seconds...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 20, 2007, 09:40:59
Well, it was weird because it was still there after a message came up saying that the tanker was gone.
Not to say that ships go down in 2 seconds...

Sometimes these waypoint instructions are ahead of time... but you are right, it seems very strange.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 20, 2007, 09:45:25
But apart from the odd bug or two don't the static ships not sink? Imagine if you took your time getting there and it did sink. Yu get there and mission ruined because no tanker to rescue if you see what i mean ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 20, 2007, 10:18:41
One thing comes to mind, We seem to be forgetting that what VSTEP is doing with SS08 is still pretty well pioneering stuff..
This is still the first time really that anyone has seriously tried to give us the same fun that flight sim pilots have had for a couple of decades now...
Now I have been a fan of flight and train sims for quite a while,  and I for one am glad that I have something  "nautical but nice" to enjoy at last..
As such it is obvious to me that you are going to have glitches at this stage and as such We should be patient as the end result will enhance what is already a great project.
Don't forget We are all on a learning curve here, and so is VSTEP who is converting for leisure use something that essentially started life as an industry training tool! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) ;)

(Tools don't usually come with jeweled handles as standard! LOL! ;D ;D ;D ;))
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 20, 2007, 10:35:26
Merlin,

I like that post. I think it should be turned into a sticky and put up in bright lights along with the forum rules and FAQ.s

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 20, 2007, 10:43:57
Merlin,

I like that post. I think it should be turned into a sticky and put up in bright lights along with the forum rules and FAQ.s

Stu

Thankyou very much for your feedback Stu, I had been looking at this thread for a while and thought people were needlessly working themselves into an upset, and so I thought I might hopefully put it back into a meaningful perspective. :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 20, 2007, 10:48:36
I doubt it. But I think your post summarised the point quite nicely.

Well, I suppose it DOES show enthusiasm for the game.... ;)

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 20, 2007, 10:53:11
Oh yes, Although I like flying Cessnas and stuff, I am (for my sins) a Great Yarmouth boy thru an thru! LOL!
So ships are in my blood!  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 20, 2007, 12:39:34
Oh yes, Although I like flying Cessnas and stuff, I am (for my sins) a Great Yarmouth boy thru an thru! LOL!
So ships are in my blood!  ;)

You're from Great Yarmouth? I'm from Stalham  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on August 20, 2007, 13:19:26
One thing comes to mind, We seem to be forgetting that what VSTEP is doing with SS08 is still pretty well pioneering stuff..
This is still the first time really that anyone has seriously tried to give us the same fun that flight sim pilots have had for a couple of decades now...
Now I have been a fan of flight and train sims for quite a while,  and I for one am glad that I have something  "nautical but nice" to enjoy at last..
As such it is obvious to me that you are going to have glitches at this stage and as such We should be patient as the end result will enhance what is already a great project.
Don't forget We are all on a learning curve here, and so is VSTEP who is converting for leisure use something that essentially started life as an industry training tool! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) ;)

(Tools don't usually come with jeweled handles as standard! LOL! ;D ;D ;D ;))
you'r spot on mate ;) ;D

 
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 20, 2007, 13:37:09
three questions about sinking

1. are you able to walk on board when you boat sinks?
2. how fast sinks a ship (i hope not so fast as in the bug that titanic dissapears in 5 seconds)
3.what happens if your ship is gone

i hope i will get an answer this time  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on August 20, 2007, 14:28:49
I remember the early microsoft flight sim version I first bought, still have it on CD, but I need to cut my eyes out before i start it now adays.  ;)

Here's a nice site of the evolving FS http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsh/start.htm  ;)

Now imagine SS2008 is in this stage http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsh/fs2.htm

And it still has this infront of it (in comparance to the picture above ;))
http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/flightsimulatorx.aspx

It's got a long way to go and it can't have all features we want in the second realease, FS sure didnt. Who do you think would guess that FS would have real world realistc graphics at the first beginnig. Sure people wanted that feature most likley but they could never dream that it would actually be that way ;)

Just think of what Ship Simulator might feature in 2032!  :D

We might have a whole globe to sail on and almost 100% realistic ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 20, 2007, 14:46:39
I just had a never-going-to-happen but fabulous idea  ;D

What if SS AND FS were combined? Would be cool if you could sail a air craft carrier on the north sea and pilot a F1 fighter to land on it.

Now wouldn't that be awesome! I know it would never happen but I like to imagine  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 20, 2007, 15:24:32
I just had a never-going-to-happen but fabulous idea  ;D

What if SS AND FS were combined? Would be cool if you could sail a air craft carrier on the north sea and pilot a F1 fighter to land on it.

Now wouldn't that be awesome! I know it would never happen but I like to imagine  ;D
I think that is possible in Flight Simulator Mulitplayer
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Eelkon on August 20, 2007, 15:30:02
I think that is possible in Flight Simulator Mulitplayer

Thats a Great idee!!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 20, 2007, 15:43:27
I think it would be good. Your mate could fly a helicopter while you pilot PoR along the ocean and he could try landing on the Landing Pad  ;D

There could be millions of missions made too  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 20, 2007, 15:49:43
three questions about sinking

1. are you able to walk on board when you boat sinks?
2. how fast sinks a ship (i hope not so fast as in the bug that titanic dissapears in 5 seconds)
3.what happens if your ship is gone

i hope i will get an answer this time  ;)

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 20, 2007, 16:04:30
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

You will probably need a mod or admin to answer this and I don't think they want to give away what you can and can't do yet. More of a surprise that way anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 20, 2007, 16:08:48
three questions about sinking

1. are you able to walk on board when you boat sinks?
2. how fast sinks a ship (i hope not so fast as in the bug that titanic dissapears in 5 seconds)
3.what happens if your ship is gone

i hope i will get an answer this time  ;)


I really want to know these things too! Will we be able to watch it sink? Will we get a "game over" as soon as the ship finishes sinking? Will we be able to walk around while it's sinking? And will we ever be able to take the walk around cam under the water?  :D Or is there no waterproof box to put the camera in?  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 20, 2007, 16:11:07

I really want to know these things too! Will we be able to watch it sink? Will we get a "game over" as soon as the ship finishes sinking? Will we be able to walk around while it's sinking? And will we ever be able to take the walk around cam under the water?  :D Or is there no waterproof box to put the camera in?  :P

LOL!!

I say once the ship(s) has sunk, we get a little submarine to dive in and take a look at our rotting boat  ;D  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on August 20, 2007, 16:19:05
LOL!!

I say once the ship(s) has sunk, we get a little submarine to dive in and take a look at our rotting boat  ;D  :D

That would be awesome!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: LucAtC on August 20, 2007, 17:45:32
Hello,
Although fully agreeing with the "Summa cum laudae" for VStep, it is not at all true that the simulation is the first serious one on the game market of ship simulations.
Virtual Sailor and Motorboat Simulator were published before ShipSim, as well as POC Sim3D, and are nor negligible or inexistent.
Obviously, the ships of ShipSim have the best graphics, as well as the best harbor environments. Hopefully (and probably too), ShipSim will become the best simulation, but not a historical pioneer.
And also, "cum laudae" would be too much for the communication (is it PR in English?), at least patch and SDK publishing?
Regards,
Luc

 

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 20, 2007, 22:09:17
It may not be the first but I still stand by the ethos of what I said. :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on August 20, 2007, 22:15:18
You're from Great Yarmouth? I'm from Stalham  ;D
Hi Captain!
Nice to know some one in my locale!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 20, 2007, 22:23:38
Hi Captain!
Nice to know some one in my locale!  ;D

Same here!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 21, 2007, 20:36:25
Has anyone looked at the amount of pages on this topic? It's massive! Started on two before patch day now it's ten!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 21, 2007, 20:37:41
Has anyone looked at the amount of pages on this topic? It's massive! Started on two before patch day now it's ten!

Guilty as charged Sir.....it was me :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 21, 2007, 20:41:54
Guilty as charged Sir.....it was me :P
lol ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Trip4x4 on August 21, 2007, 23:51:23
Sorry for taking so long to respond, but:

.....comes from years of practice and working in the Customer Service sector ;)

...I feel your pain. CSR at an inbound call center where everyone either:
1. Wanted to sue me
2. Wanted to kill me
3. Claimed I stole their money
4. Claimed I robbed them
5. Demanded a refund (Its really fun when this involved fraud, and they hadn't payed anything in the first place)
6. Wanted to stop yelling at me and start yelling at my supervisor

Although I did enjoy some of the nasty callers, especially when they were transferred to a black hole. =)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 22, 2007, 13:35:18
Although I did enjoy some of the nasty callers, especially when they were transferred to a black hole. =)

LOL, those were the days eh ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 22, 2007, 18:33:03
is there already a new releasing date?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 22, 2007, 18:40:51
is there already a new releasing date?

No, not yet. It would be easy to set a date, e.g. 21st of october. It will be ready long before that date, but then we will have no complains about a delay... VSTEP tried to set a realistic date - but things changed - the mission editor was added to the release. It turned out that the patch wasn't ready for release the 17th, and now it will be relasesed as soon as possible. How long that may take is difficult say - when there is no more bugs left you can have the patch...  ;)

Kind regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 22, 2007, 18:46:55
thanks groennegaard, i hope it will release in the last week of my summervacation  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 22, 2007, 18:58:43
thanks groennegaard, i hope it will release in the last week of my summervacation  ;D

How long is your summer vacation...? I hope it is a very, very long vacation if you expect the patch to be released before it ends....  ;)   :P

groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 22, 2007, 19:35:01
mine ends in exactly 2 weeks!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: saken41 on August 22, 2007, 20:29:19
We can do nothing more than wait :'(.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 23, 2007, 05:45:46
We could force someone to give us there beta version! :D

I don't think that will work but hey.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 23, 2007, 08:10:46
mine ends in exactly 2 weeks!

mine too :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on August 23, 2007, 13:46:31
Are we not starting to beat a dead horse so to speak.  Guys this is just a game. I would love to have all the things that the patch will fix but would much rather have it correct than have one released that does not do what they say it will do. This program is in its early stages and seams to me to have come a long way. I support them and will continue to do so as long as they continue to put forth the effort to make a good ship simulator. :-\
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: steveboston on August 23, 2007, 23:11:26
I agree that we should be patient. Look at it this way - it is far better to have to wait a few days more and get a good piece of code than have a bunch of problems from something that was 'on time'.

I ain't a programmer but I know enough from open source flight sims to see that this is a complicated piece of work too. To try and replicate complex physics with a few algorithims is almost like trying to play God - but with a whole lot less stuff to work with. I hope the Shipsim team keep going until it is right rather than giving in to pressure to produce a quick fix.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 24, 2007, 12:14:31
Are we not starting to beat a dead horse so to speak.  Guys this is just a game. I would love to have all the things that the patch will fix but would much rather have it correct than have one released that does not do what they say it will do. This program is in its early stages and seams to me to have come a long way. I support them and will continue to do so as long as they continue to put forth the effort to make a good ship simulator. :-\

bat as soon as that @#$% school begins i don't have a lot of time anymore, and first i thought when i came back from hollyday that i could emidiatly install the patch so that i have a nice game to play for the last weeks
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on August 24, 2007, 17:23:21
bat as soon as that @#$% school begins i don't have a lot of time anymore, and first i thought when i came back from hollyday that i could emidiatly install the patch so that i have a nice game to play for the last weeks

But I doubt posting about it makes the work faster  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: NiElS on August 24, 2007, 18:41:18
Robin, the same problem here!
3 Septembre back to school.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 24, 2007, 19:21:57
i went back to school 20th August after two months of summer vacation...its hard to get out of bed early again after sleeping away half of the days in the vacation :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Basti1896 on August 24, 2007, 19:26:40
i went back to school 20th August after two months of summer vacation...its hard to get out of bed early again after sleeping away half of the days in the vacation :D

WORD!

I must go to school next thursday. but school ends alway at 1.20 pm so i've got enough time to play  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 24, 2007, 19:48:41
Lucky you!
My class usually go home at 2.15PM and 4.00PM
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 24, 2007, 19:50:15
I have to wakeup at 6AM and then I get home at around 3. But on fridays we get out at noon and i would be home 2 hours early. Perfect quiet SS playing time. :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 25, 2007, 10:51:26
i don't even have to think about it to go to ****** ahh, i can't tell the word.. it's to hard for me

but let's keep on topic right?  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 28, 2007, 14:15:35
is there any news about the patch?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 28, 2007, 14:29:43
is there any news about the patch?

As far as we all know the patch will be out by the 31st August. Do not long to wait at all now  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on August 28, 2007, 18:27:50
I have to wakeup at 6AM and then I get home at around 3. But on fridays we get out at noon and i would be home 2 hours early. Perfect quiet SS playing time. :)

I get up at 5AM and I'm home at 6 PM, school ain't as bad as work, well besides the money ;)

You have alot of time to play shipsim, just organize your time better  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 29, 2007, 09:13:57
As far as we all know the patch will be out by the 31st August. Do not long to wait at all now  ;D ;D
cool  8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 29, 2007, 14:49:42
Can the dev team sum up a complete detailed list what new goodies will be included in the upcomming patch besides the bugfixes?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: IceColD on August 29, 2007, 17:21:00
hi im new here so i just wanted to ask does ship simulator 2008 online will be for free?  ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on August 29, 2007, 17:41:35
The multiplayer part will be released in a free patch at the end of this year most likley  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: IceColD on August 29, 2007, 17:48:10
The multiplayer part will be released in a free patch at the end of this year most likley  :)
So if multiplayer patch is going to be realesed in end of this year then what kind patch is going to be realesed in 31st August?  ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 29, 2007, 18:11:50
The patch who will be released 31st will fix some bugs and add a hovercraft and jetski...and it will also make it possible to sink ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: IceColD on August 29, 2007, 18:24:53
The patch who will be released 31st will fix some bugs and add a hovercraft and jetski...and it will also make it possible to sink ;)
oh and i thout its going to be multiplayer  :( thx for info anyway
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on August 29, 2007, 18:31:57
Multiplayer will be released later this year ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 29, 2007, 18:40:26
2

days left! until patch day (approx)!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 30, 2007, 03:29:52
2

days left! until patch day (approx)!

YAY!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Halmex on August 30, 2007, 07:30:40
the patch will not be released 31 of august.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 07:59:40
the patch will not be released 31 of august.



How do you know? You only have 3 posts and our brand new!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on August 30, 2007, 10:06:06
Will the patch be released only on this website tomorrow, or will other patch websites have it?  Because the server will be so full of people downloading it, it could crash, or take a long long time to download!




Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 10:07:59
Will the patch be released only on this website tomorrow, or will other patch websites have it?  Because the server will be so full of people downloading it, it could crash, or take a long long time to download!

Probably be mirrors!

1

day to go! (approx)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 30, 2007, 10:08:30
the patch probaly releases tommorrow!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 30, 2007, 10:20:01
Will the patch be released only on this website tomorrow, or will other patch websites have it?  Because the server will be so full of people downloading it, it could crash, or take a long long time to download!

I'm sure they got a solution there, will probably use several hosts or mirrors. Well the 2 week delay is due tomorrow, and they promised to tell us in advance if there are any further delays. No word about that, so then we should expect the patch to be released tomorrow or vithin the next few days :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 10:26:34
Very true! They did promise but i have full faith in vstep :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jackal on August 30, 2007, 11:35:36
Just don't start asking for the patch at 8:00 AM; IF it's going to be released tomorrow, it will probably be in the afternoon, IMHO.  :)
Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: NiElS on August 30, 2007, 12:39:27
I dont have faith anymore...instead of 17 august it is now 14 march 2035
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 12:44:06
Just don't start asking for the patch at 8:00 AM; IF it's going to be released tomorrow, it will probably be in the afternoon, IMHO.  :)
Ciao,

  Corrado

he, 1 min past 8 instead ;) Only joking!

I dont have faith anymore...instead of 17 august it is now 14 march 2035

 :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mseiwald on August 30, 2007, 13:43:19
we will just have to wait and see what happens tomorrow!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on August 30, 2007, 13:46:07
we will just have to wait and see what happens tomorrow!
OH my 1300 simmers all downloading same time ::)
he he dont even want to think of it  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on August 30, 2007, 15:47:34
VSTEP better release it tomorrow, or announce something...


... OR ELSE!!!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wetwarev7 on August 30, 2007, 15:53:20
VSTEP better release it tomorrow, or announce something...


... OR ELSE!!!!

Or else we won't have a patch?  :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on August 30, 2007, 15:58:46
Or else we won't have a patch?  :'(

And no developers... they will be mysteriously trapped inside a sinking boat,  >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 30, 2007, 16:28:42
i hope vstep will not dissapoint all of us this time  ;)
but i have a good feeling of it  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 30, 2007, 16:32:00
VSTEP better release it tomorrow, or announce something...


... OR ELSE!!!!

we will ran over vstep HQ with an big cruise liner!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on August 30, 2007, 16:37:07
I will be glad when they do :D then they can have a break we have a great game
people have there editor we get more great missions ;D AND GET BACK TO NORMAL ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on August 30, 2007, 16:40:22
I'll probaly be home at 3 o'clock tomorrow. Hopefully the patch is online than! That would be great. On the other hand it would suck if i came home and there still was no patch ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 30, 2007, 16:43:22
i felt screwed when i came back from my vacation and saw nothing on shipsim.com
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 30, 2007, 16:46:47
I just heard the patch has been delayed another two weeks.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 30, 2007, 16:52:48
jokeman  :D
old news man!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 16:54:17
i felt screwed when i came back from my vacation and saw nothing on shipsim.com

Come on guys... cheer up!  ;) I thought we already had that discussion. Release dates are always an estimate. I haven't heard anything new about the release but I can assure you that it will be out as soon as possible. I know that this waiting time can be almost unbearable, but it simply won't make sense to release a patch filled with bugs. Don't you agree?

Kind regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 30, 2007, 16:56:23
i have to agree with that groennegaard ;)

but it have to be released tommorow... it have!  that cruiseliner already looks foreward to ran over vstep HQ  :D  ha just joking ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 30, 2007, 17:02:37
Hey the game is playable without the patch, continue playing and let them take the time they need to kill the bugs.

Yea I was joking about another 2 week delay ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 30, 2007, 17:05:29
well, i can't wait to sink  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 30, 2007, 17:21:36
Well I'm sinking all the time, I'm hoping the patch will prevent that :D

Today I was fired as captain of the Red Eagle, she turned over after I crushed a yacht. I was sitting on the horn but the damn thing wouldn't move out of the way. But I think I hit the bottom since I passed a red buoy on the wrong side. Maybe I need to brush the dust off my how to become a sea captain book..
 
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Freestyleforce on August 30, 2007, 18:03:41
I can't wait!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mark0326 on August 30, 2007, 18:17:30
Take comfort in the news that even the Global Moderator doesn't know when it will be released, so much for VSTEP's communications with them.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 18:24:22
Lets wait until we get the patch eh? I think people will like VSTEP then ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 18:42:56
Take comfort in the news that even the Global Moderator doesn't know when it will be released, so much for VSTEP's communications with them.

As I said, if you want to release the patch as soon as possible it is difficult (impossible) to set a precise release date. I know that VSTEP is still working on the patch and that is sufficient knowledge for me. If the patch is ready tomorrow, it will be released - it not, it won't.

VSTEP could have set a release date in october and the patch will be ready then for sure, but they (and you) want the patch out as soon as possible and in exchange of this you will have to live with these small delays...  ;)

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:00:52
If it isn't released I won't be able to play it until next year, or the holidays in 4 months.

They had 2 weeks. Maybe a admin from VSTEP can confirm it will be released tomorrow?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 19:16:28
If it isn't released I won't be able to play it until next year, or the holidays in 4 months.

Hi Austin!  :)

I'm sorry to hear that even though I don't understand how that adds up...  ::) Well, I hope that they postpone the release of the patch until it's ready. I will be annoyed if I have to fight bugs the next couple of months just because you wanted the patch on a certain date...

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:19:53
I can always tell someone I am sick and stay home from school :p
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 30, 2007, 19:20:37
I can always tell someone I am sick and stay home from school :p

You could also play Ship Sim AFTER school ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:23:32
You could also play Ship Sim AFTER school ;)

Tech Club + Homework...

Maybe at 2 AM :p
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 30, 2007, 19:24:28
Tech Club + Homework...

Maybe at 2 AM :p

Kids eh, thay have an answer for everything :P ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:26:08
Kids eh, thay have an answer for everything :P ;D

I'll find somthing. I just want patch, and seeing the movie and pics it looks like it is ready to be released.

The game wasn't bug free so why not make a patch and then make a patch bug free :p
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 19:26:41
Tech Club + Homework...

Maybe at 2 AM :p

Well... that's a question of priority...  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:30:00
Well... that's a question of priority...  ;)

Priority list:
Games
Sleep
TV
Halo 2
Other xbox games
School
Homework...

Actually it is more like this:
Sleep
School
Homework
VVVVVVVV


http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/1028/gradespv1.png
(Those were all A's by the end of the year)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 19:33:49
Priority list:
Games
Sleep
TV
Halo 2
Other xbox games
School
Homework...

 :D Where is the item 'Spambot' on that list...  ::)

Regards  ;)
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:35:23
:D Where is 'Spambot' on that list...  ::)

Regards  ;)
groennegaard

I am only 13... Maybe wait until I am 15...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 19:42:25
As I said, if you want to release the patch as soon as possible it is difficult (impossible) to set a precise release date.

Nothing's impossible! That's what i was told ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 19:43:24
I am only 13... Maybe wait until I am 15...

Already 13?! Then you must start the preliminary work immediately... This is hard and time-consuming work! Forget about the patch! There will be no time left for gaming!  ;)

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:44:20
Already 13?! Then you must start the preliminary work immediately... This is hard and time-consuming work! Forget about the patch! There will be no time left for gaming!  ;)

Regards
groennegaard

I do have a girl that I know that always calls me and says she loves me. I loved her at one point but she fell apart... And then fell in love with some stupid jock.

ALWAYS TIME FOR GAMES!

I went to a gaming/robotics class this summer.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 19:46:21
I do have a girl that I know that always calls me and says she loves me. I loved her at one point but she fell apart... And then fell in love with some stupid jock.

Romance. Who needs it?! ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:47:22
Romance. Who needs it?! ;D

Yeah really, The only thing I love is SHIP SIMULATOR v1.1

*Gets DJM so drunk he gives out his beta*
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 19:48:43
Yeah really, The only thing I love is SHIP SIMULATOR v1.1

*Gets DJM so drunk he gives out his beta*

When we get V1.1! ;)

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:50:28
When we get V1.1! ;)


Thats why I got DJM drunk, then I have v1.1 BETA :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 19:53:28
Thats why I got DJM drunk, then I have v1.1 BETA :)

  >:( :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:54:13
>:( :-\ :'(

 You know you want the patch... :p

300 POSTS!!!

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 19:56:42
I do have a girl that I know that always calls me and says she loves me. I loved her at one point but she fell apart... And then fell in love with some stupid jock.

Then she didn't deserve you. Be happy about it! There will be another... Plenty of Spambot!  ;)

Perhaps we should set up a SS dating site...  ::) On second thought, with a Male to Spambot Ratio on 62.8:1, I guess it would be a flop...  :D

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 19:57:47
Then she didn't deserve you. Be happy about it! There will be another... Plenty of Spambot!  ;)

Perhaps we should set up a SS dating site...  ::) On second thought, with a Male to Spambot Ratio on 62.8:1, I guess it would be a flop...  :D

Regards
groennegaard

Well she called me last week said she might be in my school and said she loved me... Maybe she changed her mind...

Thats the issue they change there mind to much -.-
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 30, 2007, 19:57:58
Thats why I got DJM drunk, then I have v1.1 BETA :)

You will find that very difficult my friend......I don't drink ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 30, 2007, 19:58:38
You will find that very difficult my friend......I don't drink ;)

We didn't say what on  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 20:00:08
You will find that very difficult my friend......I don't drink ;)

hmm

Little vodka in with your water...

I think I could get you drunk. Maybe alcohol injection with a needle :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 30, 2007, 20:01:14
hmm

Little vodka in with your water...

I think I could get you drunk. Maybe alcohol injection with a needle :)
Alcohol = Empty Wallet, Empty Head and on occasion.....very weird friends :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 20:02:11
Alcohol = Empty Wallet, Empty Head and on occasion.....very weird friends :P

Very sensible. Drinking to much BAD!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 20:05:35
Well she called me last week said she might be in my school and said she loved me... Maybe she changed her mind...

Thats the issue they change there mind to much -.-
She doesn't seem very trustworthy to me... But of course, it's your decision  ;)

Hmm... I think we are getting pretty much off topic here... My fault, sorry :-[

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on August 30, 2007, 20:07:03
Then she didn't deserve you. Be happy about it! There will be another... Plenty of Spambot!  ;)

Perhaps we should set up a SS dating site...  ::) On second thought, with a Male to Spambot Ratio on 62.8:1, I guess it would be a flop...  :D

Regards
groennegaard
All ships are she's i/e she is a great ship ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 20:07:32
well to get on topic. Does anyone have proof that it is delayed or not delayed?

(Yells for an staff member)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 20:15:28
well to get on topic. Does anyone have proof that it is delayed or not delayed?

That is the question!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on August 30, 2007, 20:32:03
That is the question!
TO patch or not to patch everybody's question ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 20:33:08
TO patch or not to patch everybody's question ;)

haha! I wondered if anyone would do that ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: pjotr on August 30, 2007, 20:33:48
Where did people get the idea that we were releasing the patch on aug 31?
In earlier posts we stated we met some unexpected bugs, so things were all delayed until further notice.
We now fixed this bug, finally. Tomorrow we will first make a Gold Master for the Benelux market.
Then we'll work on the 1.1 patch, but that needs to be tested as well for at least a few days.
So my current best estimate for the patch release is some time next week.
We don't want to give out specific dates any more because we don't know what comes up from the patch testing...
Trust me, we just want to do it as soon as possible, as there are many more things we need to work on, like multiplayer, an add-on pack with 2 historic tugs, other language versions of the game, a subscription service for new vessels, the patch for the old add-on pack, a professional training version of the game (mini bridge sim), etc.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 20:35:50
Ok, next week.

I was expecting this
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 30, 2007, 20:36:44
Where did people get the idea that we were releasing the patch on aug 31?
In earlier posts we stated we met some unexpected bugs, so things were all delayed until further notice.
We now fixed this bug, finally. Tomorrow we will first make a Gold Master for the Benelux market.
Then we'll work on the 1.1 patch, but that needs to be tested as well for at least a few days.
So my current best estimate for the patch release is some time next week.
We don't want to give out specific dates any more because we don't know what comes up from the patch testing...
Trust me, we just want to do it as soon as possible, as there are many more things we need to work on, like multiplayer, an add-on pack with 2 historic tugs, other language versions of the game, a subscription service for new vessels, the patch for the old add-on pack, a professional training version of the game (mini bridge sim), etc.

Well DJM previously posted that the patch would be released around 2 weeks after the previous set date (17th). I am glad that you are taking your time to get this patch fully tested though.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 20:38:15
3 weeks and they can't fix some bugs...

I should just give up on this stupid patch...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 20:39:09
3 weeks and they can't fix some bugs...

I should just give up on this stupid patch...

The question is answered. And not the answer many people wanted.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 30, 2007, 20:39:26
3 weeks and they can't fix some bugs...

I should just give up on this stupid patch...

I don't know why your getting so worked up about it. VSTEP did not publish an official release date. I'm happy to wait as long as it takes, and so should everyone else!

Ohh, and it's a little more than just a few bugs! New ships, new features and loads more. Be happy you have the game!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 30, 2007, 20:40:04
I'm half happy to wait.

Tomorrow morning I should have calmed down :D Like last time :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 20:46:15
I don't know why your getting so worked up about it. VSTEP did not publish an official release date. I'm happy to wait as long as it takes, and so should everyone else!

Ohh, and it's a little more than just a few bugs! New ships, new features and loads more. Be happy you have the game!

Look at the beta stuff there posting, those look fine...

You would wait for shipsim 2010 just to get this stuff that already exists and that people already have -.-
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 30, 2007, 20:51:28
Look at the beta stuff there posting, those look fine...

You would wait for shipsim 2010 just to get this stuff that already exists and that people already have -.-

It's not a question of the features looking 'fine' for the beta testers. Like people have said on this forum, testing takes time and the game needs to be tested on all kinds of computers so make sure everything is compatible. It might work for some, and not for others. I'm sure the experts at VSTEP know what they're doing  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on August 30, 2007, 20:57:12
Sorry to ask a silly question if it's already been asked, but is the multi-player function in this patch or is that in another patch later?

if it is later, is there any rough expected time for that release (Note i'm not asking for date & time, just a guide).

Thanks. :)

**I edited to correct spelling error.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 20:57:35
It's not a question of the features looking 'fine' for the beta testers. Like people have said on this forum, testing takes time and the game needs to be tested on all kinds of computers so make sure everything is compatible. It might work for some, and not for others. I'm sure the experts at VSTEP know what they're doing  ;)

I can help test on different kinds of computers. I have 4 different computers I could try it on :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 21:01:52
Sorry to ask a silly question if it's already been asked, but is the multi-player function in this patch or is that in another patch later?

if it is later, is there any rough expected time for that release (Note i'm not asking for date & time, just a guide).

Hi Lifeboat! :)

The multi-player function will be in a later patch - probably available at the end of the year...  ;)

Have a look at the FAQ:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,955.0.html

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Scierra on August 30, 2007, 21:33:19
Dear Shipsim friends, where is the problem?
The simulator called ShipSim 2008  ;) we are in 2007 or not?

We have to wait  8)

Thanks
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 30, 2007, 21:40:57
ok this is not right anymore!! >:( I give up hope on VSTEP to keep release dates. We had the same problem with the 2006 add-on and this problem is going to keep happening, VSTEP should NOT give out anymore release dates, or news or anything!! When the product is ready put it on the market, website, whatever. Then tell us. This way only leads to angry people like me >:( >:( >:( So I'm done with this @&#$%@# ****.

Woah hang on there. I think you're getting a little overworked here. Firstly, VSTEP DID NOT release an official date for the patch release. DJM only said that it would be approximately 2 weeks. Why are you getting worked up over this??

Calm down a bit mate, it's not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on August 30, 2007, 22:14:28
It,s better to get a fine working patch.  or a patch with bugs. I can say and i mean it, if the patch have gone out 2 morrow with a few bugs, people will be crazy again and blablabla  on this forum after a new patch. The world will not go 2 hell if the patch are delayed 1 or 2 weeks again :P  I want a good realistisk product so i will give VSTEP all the time they need.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 22:25:11
ok this is not right anymore!! >:( I give up hope on VSTEP to keep release dates. We had the same problem with the 2006 add-on and this problem is going to keep happening, VSTEP should NOT give out anymore release dates, or news or anything!! When the product is ready put it on the market, website, whatever. Then tell us. This way only leads to angry people like me >:( >:( >:( So I'm done with this @&#$%@# ****.

Master Captain, I think out post is completely out touch with reality. There has never been set a final release date for the patch. The first estimate was the 17th of August, but this was an estimate and it was made before the decision of including the mission editor in the patch. The 2 extra weeks were another estimate but peope in here made it 17th + 2 weeks = 31st and now you expect the patch to be released on a date set by YOU and not VSTEP.

I can't help you being angry about you own misinterpretation but I think you are being unfair when you blame VSTEP.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2007, 22:44:57
Woah hang on there. I think you're getting a little overworked here. Firstly, VSTEP DID NOT release an official date for the patch release. DJM only said that it would be approximately 2 weeks. Why are you getting worked up over this??

Calm down a bit mate, it's not the end of the world.

Im with master captain, and yes they did they said it would be out aug 17th. We waited 2 weeks for them to fix bugs and now we have been waiting just to be $%^$ed again.

I probably won't even buy the next version until they don't #$%^ us over.

I hate waiting and I bared it for 2 weeks and then guess what. BOOM!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 22:55:48
Im with master captain, and yes they did they said it would be out aug 17th. We waited 2 weeks for them to fix bugs and now we have been waiting just to be $%^$ed again.

I probably won't even buy the next version until they don't #$%^ us over.

I hate waiting and I bared it for 2 weeks and then guess what. BOOM!

Which part of my last post didn't you understand...?  ::) I simply think that these comments are too childish to be taken serious!  >:(

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 30, 2007, 22:57:25
Im with master captain, and yes they did they said it would be out aug 17th. We waited 2 weeks for them to fix bugs and now we have been waiting just to be $%^$ed again.

I probably won't even buy the next version until they don't #$%^ us over.

I hate waiting and I bared it for 2 weeks and then guess what. BOOM!

I give up. You guys have no idea what it takes to build a game like this. You seem to live in your own world so keep me out of it. I've had enough of people slagging VSTEP off.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 30, 2007, 23:04:39
Ok, just to clarify things again for those who missed it the first time:

My original post on this subject

Hiya everyone :)

Vstep continue to appreciate your interest in their development of Ship Simulator and fully understand that this patch has generated a great deal of interest.  The latest Official news on the patch is as follows:

The patch is currently being fine-tuned and unfortunately will be delayed for approximately 2 weeks.  This delay is a necessary part of the development process and Vstep appreciate your understanding while the final stages of the patch are completed.  Thank you.

Kind regards.

DJM.

The key point here is:

delayed for approximately 2 weeks

There was no definite date set for the patch, it was always approximate.

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Kevinmcg_ships on August 30, 2007, 23:06:14
Calm down guys,

It's only a game! It's not as if our lives depended on it!

Chill out and go with the flow  8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on August 30, 2007, 23:27:27
Hi Lifeboat! :)

The multi-player function will be in a later patch - probably available at the end of the year...  ;)

Have a look at the FAQ:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,955.0.html

Regards
groennegaard

Hi groennegaard,

Thanks for your reply! I knew i had seen it mentioned somewhere, but i must have got the dates mixed up with the patch for the mission editor. ::) My mistake.

Thanks again.

Lifeboat.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mseiwald on August 30, 2007, 23:28:11
I agree that we all want a bug free patch.

But i can`t agree that 17th august was an estimate because when you write down 17th august again and again in the faq you can`t say it was an estimate after all! when i read i get this and that on 17th i belive this is a fixed date and not an estimate. Then you say it will be approx. 2 weeks.....

I have no problem waiting for it! Better to wait longer than having bugs again but i can understand people who are angry about the delays because i can agree with them that it would have been better just to say nothing about any release dates than announce a dates or estimates a patch comes when not being able to keep them.

Again i know making such games takes a lot of time and i really love this game. I personally give VSTEP all the time they need to fix the bugs.

I just think it stands to reason that some people are angry after buying a game with many bugs and then it takes so much time to eliminate them and the release is delayed and delayed.

Just my opinion!


kind regards
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on August 30, 2007, 23:31:33
At least t ehy don't leave us hanging...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 30, 2007, 23:32:41
Unfortunately, the initial release date was exceeded due to last minute problems.  I didn't say that 17th of August was an estimate, the 2 week delay was an estimate :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 30, 2007, 23:41:04
Hi groennegaard,

Thanks for your reply! I knew i had seen it mentioned somewhere, but i must have got the dates mixed up with the patch for the mission editor. ::) My mistake.

Thanks again.

Lifeboat.

Hi Lifeboat,  :)

No need to apologise, apparently it's not easy to figure out...  ;)

Please keep in mind that the release dates mentioned in the FAQ are estimates...

Kind regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mseiwald on August 30, 2007, 23:50:46
Please keep in mind that the release dates mentioned in the FAQ are estimates...

Kind regards
groennegaard

ok sorry i didn`t know that....but i think there are many people like me which interpret it as a release date when you read things like..

"An advanced scoringsystem will be introduced the 17th of August..................Expect this system to be released with the patch of August the 17th."

...and so on. it`s a little bit misleading!  :)

kind regards

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: J.Ham on August 30, 2007, 23:56:20
Hello,
I would be suprised and amezed if here would be so much ado if the arctic suddenly changes in antarctic. ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mvsmith on August 31, 2007, 00:17:00
I simply think that these comments are too childish to be taken serious!  >:(

Regards
groennegaard
Childish?  You haven’t seen childish unless you’ve followed the Trainz forum for the past few years.
Following the release of Railroad Simulator 2006, there were posts like:
“I wouldn’t buy TRS06 and even if I did, I wouldn’t install it!”
Or “goodbye” posts that remind me of:
I don’t want to play at your house
I don’t like you anymore
You’ll be sorry when you see me
Sliding down my cellar door!

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: pmillett22 on August 31, 2007, 00:42:24
Is the patch to be released August 31st (today on the forums) or is there another delay?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on August 31, 2007, 01:06:18
sadly there is another delay >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Kevinmcg_ships on August 31, 2007, 08:09:22
I don't think it's another delay, since VSTEP never gave a revised date for patch after it was delayed 2 weeks ago.  ;)

DJW said "approximately 2 weeks" delay. To me, that could be anytime between 31st August and 7th September. (please don't quote me on that! I might be wrong!!!!)

I don't know who came up with 31st August as the official date for patches, cos VSTEP have never said that.

Don't get me wrong, I am really looking forward to getting the bugs fixed in SS2008 but at the same time it is very important that we give these VSTEP guys every chance to make sure the patch will definately iron out the bugs first time around. There's no point in rushing out a patch which may not work properly!

 8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 08:13:40
To avoid any confusion, my post on this topic was also approximate:

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1890.0.html

As stated:

The approximate date is 31st August, but this is approximate and not definite ;)

There will be updates with any news of further delay, if necessary :)

Regards.

DJM.

I hope this clears things up a little ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on August 31, 2007, 08:19:16
tOYS out of the pram time vstep can't win i wish some people would just
calm down at the end of the day the moderator's beta testers do everything they can
but there are still the minority that refuse to be passefyed :-\
myself i think when this one is released they will move on and find something else
to complain about Some people can not be pleased whatever vstep do


ONLY MY OPPINION ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 08:58:15
Unfortunately, the initial release date was exceeded due to last minute problems.

So DJM, in this quote you said it was an initial release date.

Please keep in mind that the release dates mentioned in the FAQ are estimates...

And you Mr Groennegaard are saying they're all estimates.

How does this figure?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 09:06:55
So DJM, in this quote you said it was an initial release date.

The 17th August was an initial release date, meeting targets with game development isn't an exact science unfortunately.  The 2 weeks approximation was exactly that, nothing more.  Unfortunately it seems that some people have assumed it was an exact date, this is not and never was, the case :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 09:07:09
i should know it, again delayed.... well, i don't wait for a patch anymore
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 09:09:22
The 17th August was an initial release date, meeting targets with game development isn't an exact science unfortunately.  The 2 weeks approximation was exactly that, nothing more.  Unfortunately it seems that some people have assumed it was an exact date, this is not and never was, the case :)

Regards.

DJM.

Thank you DJM but I can see that the original 17th of august was a release date (official) but greonnegaard says EVERYTHING in the FAQ is estimate so what i'm saying two mods are saying two different things. That's what I don't get.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jackal on August 31, 2007, 09:15:48
Keep up moaning and talking again and again about the not-yet-released-patch guys! By the time you're finished, I'm sure it will be out.  ;D
Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 09:16:19
 ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 31, 2007, 09:18:44
Keep up moaning and talking again and again about the not-yet-released-patch guys! By the time you're finished, I'm sure it will be out.  ;D
Ciao,

  Corrado

I think I will thank you very much.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on August 31, 2007, 09:21:25
I agree with Jackal. Go play something else, like bioshock or ports of call. I have a idea.  people so dont have a girl friends get one. then u have a lot stuff  do when u are waiting for the patch. :) i am sure the patch are coming 2 christmas. :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on August 31, 2007, 09:23:53
Does anyone know roughly how many mb the patch will be eg.  between 20mb - 70mb or something like 1.5GB - 4GB as it could take days for my computer to download.




Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 09:24:30
Thank you DJM but I can see that the original 17th of august was a release date (official) but greonnegaard says EVERYTHING in the FAQ is estimate so what i'm saying two mods are saying two different things. That's what I don't get.

It's all about wording, we are in fact saying exactly the same thing ;)

The initial date was over-run because of unforseen problems (it may have been official, but as previously stated, nothing is an exact science), the new approximated date was stated to allow the Developers time to fine-tune the patch.

If I can quote from the FAQ's:

Small error patch

The 17th of August a patch should be released fixing a lot of bugs.

Save game

In a future patch the savegame will be introduced. In other words, from then on you will be able to save your progress. It is not clear yet in which patch it is going to be included.

Hovercraft and Jet Ski

The Hovercraft and Jet Ski will be introduced in a free patch. Date: unknown.

Sinking ships

The ability to sink ships will probably be introduced in the next patch (17th of August)


Now, take a look at the underlined parts (which I have highlighted for one reason), see the obvious statements here?  Some of the features we will see in this patch weren't planned for this patch, so we are getting more than we actually expected and no definite date was set for features that were initially to be included.  It's all good in my personal opinion ;)

I hope this explains the issue further :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 09:29:45
Thanks :)

So you and groennegaard ARE saying the same thing but with other wording ok. I was confused that's all.

Thanks ;)

Shipaddict
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 09:31:04
Thanks :)

So you and groennegaard ARE saying the same thing but with other wording ok. I was confused that's all.

Thanks ;)

Shipaddict

No problem. it's all just different use of phrases/words anyway ;)

The patch will be worth the wait as we've said on many occasions :D

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 09:31:30
Yes it will be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 09:50:32
now i know what the patch will be at the end of this year
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 10:05:02
WTF! delayed again!!!

Do you need more testing again? Why dont you just release it, if it still has bugs you could allways release another patch afterwards fixing it. Its no shame, EA does it all the time, but it keeps their customers HAPPY and PLAYING!

I havent played for over a week now cause the bugs are driving me nuts!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 10:07:55
WTF! delayed again!!!

Do you need more testing again? Why dont you just release it, if it still has bugs you could allways release another patch afterwards fixing it. Its no shame, EA does it all the time, but it keeps their customers HAPPY and PLAYING!

I havent played for over a week now cause the bugs are driving me nuts!

Ok, how many members would be upset with a faulty patch?  A lot I would imagine, Vstep want this to be right, so the delay is necessary :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: captain_Adam on August 31, 2007, 10:13:11
Ok....so the patch is deleyed 2 weeks from now (31st August) so that means it may be done on the 14th September or does it mean that on the 17th August it would be 2 weeks from then so that means it should be out today some time, correct ?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 10:14:59
Ok....so the patch is deleyed 2 weeks from now (31st August) so that means it may be done on the 14th September or does it mean that on the 17th August it would be 2 weeks from then so that means it should be out today some time, correct ?

The patch was delayed on 17th August for 2 weeks, it is now delayed until possibly next week :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 10:18:45
The patch was delayed on 17th August for 2 weeks, it is now delayed until possibly next week :)

Regards.

DJM.

Does possible mean that it MIGHT be out before then? ;D

Regarding what Gertjan said:


People do want a bug free patch but maybe to somepeople so much waiting could put them off shipsim. So in someways maybe VSTEP will possibly lose customers. (Doubt it though)

Just a thought and opinion. ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 10:23:58
I'd like to quote from Pjotr's original post from yesterday:

Where did people get the idea that we were releasing the patch on aug 31?
In earlier posts we stated we met some unexpected bugs, so things were all delayed until further notice.
We now fixed this bug, finally. Tomorrow we will first make a Gold Master for the Benelux market.
Then we'll work on the 1.1 patch, but that needs to be tested as well for at least a few days.
So my current best estimate for the patch release is some time next week.
We don't want to give out specific dates any more because we don't know what comes up from the patch testing...
Trust me, we just want to do it as soon as possible, as there are many more things we need to work on, like multiplayer, an add-on pack with 2 historic tugs, other language versions of the game, a subscription service for new vessels, the patch for the old add-on pack, a professional training version of the game (mini bridge sim), etc.

I've highlighted the most relevant part in bold ;)

All opinions are appreciated of course, but I would like to offer a more objective look at this situation:

It's a patch.  Nobody's life is at risk from a delay.  Asking Vstep to release an incomplete/faulty patch will not solve the problem, I believe it would make things worse.

Just my own personal opinion of course ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 10:27:37
yup, we all have different opinions ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 10:28:08
yup, we all have different opinions ;)

Indeed we do, that's what makes us all individual ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 10:29:44
I dont think that many people would be upset, like i said EA does it all the time and do you hear people complaining there?

And its a bugfix, so a lot of bugs should be fixed right? if not those that are left could allways be fixed ion another update.

I like the system valve uses, Steam updates are releaae on a weekly basis, every time fixing minor bugs.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 10:33:44
I dont think that many people would be upset, like i said EA does it all the time and do you hear people complaining there?

And its a bugfix, so a lot of bugs should be fixed right? if not those that are left could allways be fixed ion another update.

I like the system valve uses, Steam updates are releaae on a weekly basis, every time fixing minor bugs.

I can see your point of view of course and we do understand that some members will be upset with a further delay.

I remember the fuss that a certain patch release caused last year (for a game I won't mention, but it's not Ship Simulator ;)), everything is not as simple as it may first appear, wouldn't you agree?

I personally believe Vstep are doing the right thing :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on August 31, 2007, 10:37:58
I have to say, i dont get why people are getting so stressed about this...it's patch for a game for goodness sake, it's not a blood transfusion, or donor patient that has not turned up,it's not the bank ringing to tell you you cant have your mortage after all & so your purchase falls through, or the garage telling you your car will be in the workshop for another two weeks, it's not going to ruin your day, it's patch to improve a GAME nothing to do with real life...'worse things happen sea' ;) (and they really do!)

So just chill & wait for the patch, it will improve a sim which is already great, it will be worth the wait. 8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Parsec on August 31, 2007, 10:39:56
Hmmm... the patch has been delayed, and that has resulted in quite a few frustrated owners of the game judging by the posts on this forum. What I personally think VSTEP should have done, was to make the released game free of bugs with a first patch, then added more features in later patches. Now, it seems like VSTEP have opted to add quite a few new features in the first upcoming patch, which will be good as long as they don't introduce more bugs.

I hope that VSTEP have expanded their line-up of betatesters, to cover more technical specifications of computers and get more feedback on things. I've understood from posts on this forum that several of the betatesters didn't have problems that have occured for others, eg. sinking ships.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 10:42:02
I've understood from posts on this forum that several of the betatesters didn't have problems that have occured for others, eg. sinking ships.

That is very true :)

As I myself stated in another topic, testing doesn't reveal ALL bugs and it also depends on your PC setup ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 10:42:55
I have to say, i dont get why people are getting so stressed about this...it's patch for a game for goodness sake, it's not a blood transfusion, or donor patient that has not turned up,it's not the bank ringing to tell you you cant have your mortage after all & so your purchase falls through, or the garage telling you your car will be in the workshop for another two weeks, it's not going to ruin your day, it's patch to improve a GAME nothing to do with real life...'worse things happen sea' ;) (and they really do!)

So just chill & wait for the patch, it will improve a sim which is already great, it will be worth the wait. 8)
that's because it delays every time, i better want 3000 patches during the year then only one in all, 3000 patches, keep people playing everytime a new one comes.

i bet on it that it will delay another time
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 10:43:22
it's not going to ruin your day

Wel it did ruin my friday
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 10:45:36
also mine, i came out of my bed with a nice felling of: ''ahh yes man! patch day!!'' but the forums say'd something else >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 10:52:11
I've known since last night so I didin't wake up with that feeling :'(.
I was looking forward to a  nice day with the hovercraft :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 10:53:59
also mine, i came out of my bed with a nice felling of: ''ahh yes man! patch day!!'' but the forums say'd something else >:(

Same here
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on August 31, 2007, 10:57:26
On a more positive side for you guys ;), at least the worst thing for your days is this patch not being released yet, some people wake up with some serious stuff to worry about.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 10:59:42
On a more positive side for you guys ;), at least the worst thing for your days is this patch not being released yet, some people wake up with some serious stuff to worry about.

I have to agree with that, life is much more complicated and difficult than worrying about a patch......you kinda learn that with age ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 11:00:16
On a more positive side for you guys ;), at least the worst thing for your days is this patch not being released yet, some people wake up with some serious stuff to worry about.



If i runned my own business and a customer came back with something he bought that didnt work as expected and i would give him that excuse guess what would happen.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 11:02:49
If i runned my own business and a customer came back with something he bought that didnt work as expected and i would give him that excuse guess what would happen.

If you stand back and look at this, Vstep are working on the patch......they haven't abandoned us.  Any statement about bad policies etc. is unfounded when the problem is being addressed :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 11:05:25
I have to agree with that, life is much more complicated and difficult than worrying about a patch......you kinda learn that with age ;)

we don't have anything else to worry about
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 11:06:03
Yeah i know they are working on it and i am fine with that, but just like the last time they delayed it the clue is: It not what youd say its how and when you say it that matters.

I am really frustrated about this, i bought a 3,5L keg of Heineken for my beertender so i could play SS08 allnight long.

This means someones ass is going to be kicked big time on Counterstrike: Source tonight  >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dogman on August 31, 2007, 11:27:50
Where did people get the idea that we were releasing the patch on aug 31?
In earlier posts we stated we met some unexpected bugs, so things were all delayed until further notice.
We now fixed this bug, finally. Tomorrow we will first make a Gold Master for the Benelux market.
Then we'll work on the 1.1 patch, but that needs to be tested as well for at least a few days.
So my current best estimate for the patch release is some time next week.
We don't want to give out specific dates any more because we don't know what comes up from the patch testing...
Trust me, we just want to do it as soon as possible, as there are many more things we need to work on, like multiplayer, an add-on pack with 2 historic tugs, other language versions of the game, a subscription service for new vessels, the patch for the old add-on pack, a professional training version of the game (mini bridge sim), etc.

I think the above quote says it all.
It beats me how the moderators put up with the 'flack' that they do and still remain polite.
All this moaning about this patch is begining to get up my nose with people not reading properly the answers that they are given.
Thanks for all your work guys, I know the patch will come when it is ready.

Kind Regards.

Ian.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Drumbeat on August 31, 2007, 11:43:49
I see some very inpatient people in this thread. If the patch is not ready it's not ready. Stop yer windgin you don't want a patch with bugs in it do ya.

Keep smiling

 :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 11:48:50
did you made a whole new account to tell us that we have to be patiend even it delayed 2 TIMES!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mark Snowden on August 31, 2007, 12:28:31
Look am sorry
  but im not waiting for this patch any more its proberbly not even worth it  :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 31, 2007, 12:31:47
Delayed again! :o

Fellow angry buyers, grab your frying pans...Vstep asked for this :P

Kidding ;)

(http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/tit.gif)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 12:36:35
I see some very inpatient people in this thread. If the patch is not ready it's not ready. Stop yer windgin you don't want a patch with bugs in it do ya.

Keep smiling

 :)

Yeah keep smiling
 ;D :) ;) :D 8)


Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 31, 2007, 12:42:02
Vstep need more time to get the patch ready, leave them alone.

But I agree with Parsec, maybe they should have released a pure bug fix patch first and deal with the rest in a second patch. I think so too when looking at the growing number of unhappy customers..
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 12:42:18
I see some very inpatient people in this thread. If the patch is not ready it's not ready. Stop yer windgin you don't want a patch with bugs in it do ya.

Keep smiling

 :)

Yes i do want a patch with bugs, gives me something new to be irritaded about then the old bugs i experience now.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 31, 2007, 12:49:24
You should give it a rest. Think about poor pjotr, he's loosing his sleep because of this ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on August 31, 2007, 12:52:08
Why dont we pay him a visit and cheer him up, he should be somewhere around here (check attachement for google earth)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on August 31, 2007, 12:59:23
DJM I understand that the patch takes tiem to put out and I am ok with that. I do not understand a few things however. You as a moderator are a spokesman to the company? If so great and I am glad you are keeping us up todate on a great product. If not why do they not post an update on their home page. For someone out side it just looks as if they are not responsive. I know that is not the case. Thanks  ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 13:00:30
That's a really good point!

Nothing on the website!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: trains on August 31, 2007, 13:04:16
is the patch being released today ??? ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 13:05:25
No. coming sometime next week

EDIT: Got to keep smiling! :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on August 31, 2007, 13:11:32
Please read the official announcement from Vstep instead of asking about the patch all the time:

Where did people get the idea that we were releasing the patch on aug 31?
In earlier posts we stated we met some unexpected bugs, so things were all delayed until further notice.
We now fixed this bug, finally. Tomorrow we will first make a Gold Master for the Benelux market.
Then we'll work on the 1.1 patch, but that needs to be tested as well for at least a few days.
So my current best estimate for the patch release is some time next week.
We don't want to give out specific dates any more because we don't know what comes up from the patch testing...
Trust me, we just want to do it as soon as possible, as there are many more things we need to work on, like multiplayer, an add-on pack with 2 historic tugs, other language versions of the game, a subscription service for new vessels, the patch for the old add-on pack, a professional training version of the game (mini bridge sim), etc.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 13:18:18
DJM I understand that the patch takes tiem to put out and I am ok with that. I do not understand a few things however. You as a moderator are a spokesman to the company? If so great and I am glad you are keeping us up todate on a great product. If not why do they not post an update on their home page. For someone out side it just looks as if they are not responsive. I know that is not the case. Thanks  ::)

Ok, a few points to bear in mind here :)

Firstly, the Vstep development team are keeping us all informed, that's what this forum is for ;)

Secondly, as most will already know, Moderators are voluntary.  We do this in our own time because we want to.  We are no different from other members except that Vstep Administrators gave us the privilege of assisting other members with any problems :).  We do get some official announcements of course, as have been posted already in this very thread.  We only represent the forum for Vstep in this capacity, no other :)

We are of course happy to answer other members questions, but we don't have ALL the answers as I'm sure you understand.  Any official announcements for patches etc. are posted on the forum :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on August 31, 2007, 13:33:04
Thanks. I am not complaining. I have more in my life than sitting up all night waiting for a patch. You have made you position clear to me and I thankyou for the time and effort that you take to keep us up to date. I for one could not put up with all the crying all the time. I support Vstep and love there product. There are a lot of things I would like to see as well as improvements.  I have been into simulations for 30 years (started commidor 64 on 5" floppys") I know that shipsim has a long way to go but is the best out there now in the price range. If we keep showing our support I hope they continue to update and inprove their product. Just look at flightsim improvements since the very first addition. Keep up the good work and thanks again.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 13:37:13
Thanks. I am not complaining. I have more in my life than sitting up all night waiting for a patch. You have made you position clear to me and I thankyou for the time and effort that you take to keep us up to date. I for one could not put up with all the crying all the time. I support Vstep and love there product. There are a lot of things I would like to see as well as improvements.  I have been into simulations for 30 years (started commidor 64 on 5" floppys") I know that shipsim has a long way to go but is the best out there now in the price range. If we keep showing our support I hope they continue to update and inprove their product. Just look at flightsim improvements since the very first addition. Keep up the good work and thanks again.

I would like to also thank you, your kind comments are very much appreciated :)

Our time and effort is well spent when we see comments like this and when members appreciate the effort that the entire team makes to keep the community not only informed, but a place we all like to be involved with :)

Thanks again :)

Kind regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 14:02:55
I've completely calmed down now :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 14:04:29
I've completely calmed down now :D

:D good to know ;)

I'm always calm ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on August 31, 2007, 14:05:59
Lucky you ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 31, 2007, 14:09:09
Lucky you ;D

Something you learn over time........usually a lot of time too :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 14:19:30
Why dont we pay him a visit and cheer him up, he should be somewhere around here (check attachement for google earth)

mm i think that will be a bit difficult to ran over that building with a cruise ship  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tugboats007 on August 31, 2007, 14:56:46
Hello all, I too am sad to here that the patch is no ready as yet and for the most part that is OK. Better late and fixed then not.

 How ever with that being said let me tell all of you that life could be alot worse. A few years ago when dealing with a Train Sim add on called ******* that was being put out by *******. They had us per buy the route with an expected release date and then keep us on hold for 9 mo past that date. And buy the way still keep the money. Once the route came out then it took another 3 months to get a patch and it still dose not work well at least on my machine. Heck 3Dtrains has been promising us a new route called Feather Canyon for over a year and a half.  The only differance is they have not asked for any money yet. The worst part about both of these examples is there was little or no information on the forum. And when there was it was always bad news.

V-Step may want to keep this in mind. Update news and plenty of it if things are not going well or even if it is, we would like to hear about it. Don't get into the mind set that your time is too important to talk to your customers and keep them informed. They would like to hear what is going on as I said Good or Bad. They did buy the way like your Sim enough to buy it again or at least I did and look forward to more.

Thank you, Tugboats007

EDIT: Please can you refrain from adversely commenting on other companies products. Not fair on them if they aren't here to defend themselves. Thanks (Stu)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on August 31, 2007, 18:05:55
ok i'm finally all calm cool and collective :D :D Like everyone says give Vstep a break, they are working on the patch, let them work and we get the patch when they're done, whether its, next week, next month, next year, next decade, or even next the next century, we will get it sometime.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on August 31, 2007, 18:07:49
mm.. i better want the patch next week then the next millennium  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on August 31, 2007, 18:10:54
yea i agree ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mvsmith on August 31, 2007, 19:31:44
The real reason the patch is delayed is that people living on the polders adjacent to the New Waterway insist that it not be released without the maeslantkering.  :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipmania2007 on August 31, 2007, 21:05:00
THIS SOUND ABIT STUPID


But what are bugs,

Thanks,

MBS
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 31, 2007, 21:06:21
THIS SOUND ABIT STUPID


But what are bugs,

Thanks,

MBS

Bugs = An unwanted and unintended property of a program or piece of hardware, especially one that causes it to malfunction.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: hongzhu on August 31, 2007, 22:31:06
i thought they said it would be released ont he 31st which is today so where is it lol  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on August 31, 2007, 22:47:29
i thought they said it would be released ont he 31st which is today so where is it lol  ??? ??? ???

I don't know why I still bother replying these posts...  ::) You can find you answer in this topic if you bother reading it.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Brinch on August 31, 2007, 23:05:21
instead of forcing people to read through 13-14 pages before they find an answer, you could put a sticky in an oblivious place. It might reduce the number of post on the subject....
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mvsmith on September 01, 2007, 00:21:38
I have to agree with Brinch on that. There is a FAQ & Announcements section right at the head of this forum that has been unused since 31 July.
This does not, however, mean that I disagree with groennegaard’s frustration over the laziness of some posters.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Cloud on September 01, 2007, 00:59:43
When the demo came out i got a nice email from the developers saying that it was available for download....

Suspect the same will happen when the patch is available.... :)  Until then F.W.E.  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 01, 2007, 07:17:45
Good idea, sign up for the news letters. But I think it will be announced in the forum very fast when the patch is released ;D

But remember the reasons for the delays, they ran into unexpected bugs which they had to fix and it's difficult to say how much time they need to do it. And the patch planned for release August 17'th was without the mission editor, later they decided to include it because that's what we wanted isn't it? Well then they need even more time to include the editor before the patch can be released. So we really got nothing to be angry about. I'm convinced that Vstep wants us to have fun when playing the game, and they want this to be a good quality patch. It will be worth the waiting :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 01, 2007, 08:39:02
that some people still don't know where the patch is!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on September 01, 2007, 10:35:47
I hope this isn't a bug that will be fixed in the coming patch.

'When you keep moving past the railings and look up, you can fly when you still have the forward key pressed, so that you can fly ontop of the funnel, or rest on the sea, and just watch your ship slowly pass from left to right into the distance, or go to places on the ships you normally couldn't, e.g. the car deck.'





Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 01, 2007, 11:45:44
you have to press the ''run'' button first, but i like it, you can make nice vids with that ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Ship Sim on September 01, 2007, 21:03:04
Anyone realise this is one of the biggest topic on the forum. :D ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on September 01, 2007, 21:38:42
Anyone realise this is one of the biggest topic on the forum. :D ;)


Indeed.
I bet "klompie" (the author of this thread) had no idea what he started  :P

I hope this thing gets released this week, or within the next 6-7 days. But I think I can find plenty of things to do to pass the time. School certainly takes some of that up. I have this Monday off for "Labor day", so if the patch is released during this week, it would complete my week  ;D

Has anyone else also noticed that people are awaiting the release of this patch as if it were the entire game?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 01, 2007, 22:42:58
Has anyone else also noticed that people are awaiting the release of this patch as if it were the entire game?

Yes ;)

I wonder if Vstep offer therapy to those in severe distress :P

I don't worry about things like that anymore, too many other things to worry about ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 02, 2007, 00:07:51
Has anyone else also noticed that people are awaiting the release of this patch as if it were the entire game?

In a sence it is adding a hell of a lot to the game like the sinking system and fixing alot of bugs. Isnt this also the patch with the mission editor too? I may be wrong on that

I can't wait for the patch but at the same time, I can as I have so much more to do so It's not getting to me that much
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 02, 2007, 00:11:12
Yes ;)

I wonder if Vstep offer therapy to those in severe distress :P

I don't worry about things like that anymore, too many other things to worry about ;)

Regards.

DJM.

TOS: If you are stressed about our service or mad at it, we will pay for ALL costs to get your problem done with.  YAY FREE MASSAGE!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 02, 2007, 00:29:11
TOS: If you are stressed about our service or mad at it, we will pay for ALL costs to get your problem done with.  YAY FREE MASSAGE!

Haha!!  That's what you call wishful thinking my friend ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: vr4god on September 02, 2007, 06:28:40
What patch is everyone waiting for? When is it scheduled to be released? Is it for 2008? I just signed on for the first time. Read the first page of this topic and jumped to the last. Anyway I am The Vr4god. Howya all doin? ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 02, 2007, 06:52:33
What patch is everyone waiting for? When is it scheduled to be released? Is it for 2008? I just signed on for the first time. Read the first page of this topic and jumped to the last. Anyway I am The Vr4god. Howya all doin? ;D

The august 17th patch that was delayed 3 weeks comes out this week. Yes it is 2008 notice how it is in the 2008 forum and 2006 is no longer developed. Try reading the topic and you would have seen this.

Welcome to the forums!

The patch will include:

On\Off
Save
Mission Editor
Hover Craft
Jet Ski
Bug Fixes.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 02, 2007, 08:31:35
What patch is everyone waiting for? When is it scheduled to be released? Is it for 2008? I just signed on for the first time. Read the first page of this topic and jumped to the last. Anyway I am The Vr4god. Howya all doin? ;D

Hiya and welcome to our wonderful community :)

The approximate release date is, as Agent|Austin mentioned, sometime this week.  There have been necessary delays because of unforseen development issues, but these are being worked on as we type ;)

There are a few topics with pictures and videos of some of the new features of this patch, including:

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,661.msg19150.html#msg19150

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1971.0.html

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1972.0.html

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1998.0.html

This will reveal some interesting features for you all to see :D

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 02, 2007, 15:00:21
I hope its coming on monday  ;D That was hard to wait 2 weeks and now this... But i understand its hard to make all of those thinks  :D And better that than a patch full of bugs and everything.









Only little time to wait.  8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on September 02, 2007, 15:11:04
Hi you guys! While a lot of people have worried about the tardiness of the patch , I've been out photographing the first stages of construction of the new outer harbour at Great Yarmouth ...
If you think waiting for a patch is bad, we've been waiting for this harbour project to start for THIRTY YEARS!
Whilst doing this I got lots of photos and video of REAL ships, tugs and barges doing real work!
Real life is so much fun! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shamen20 on September 02, 2007, 16:41:28
most of the ppl seem to be waiting for the new patch for the sinking ability on it ..................................
Now being a genuine passenger boat skipper , and having been involved in one or two minor incidents and injuries onboard a vessel under my command at the time at least the patch will not simulate the marine coastguard interviews , board of enquery and reams and reams or forms and statments that have to be completed for every incident and the stress involved with waiting to see if the marine coastguard agency will revoke your ticket or press charges ( i have been cleard of blame and have never been called before a board of enquiery before- touch wood i wont in the future).
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Britannic on September 02, 2007, 16:45:59
Appox. how much longer, guys?  :)

Thanks, Sky.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 02, 2007, 18:23:54
I just started to wonder about a thing....when we have installed the patch,will our mission times still be there or will we have to do all the missions over again? ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 02, 2007, 19:05:23
i don't think so, it is only a patch, you can see it as an update ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 02, 2007, 19:39:10
I just started to wonder about a thing....when we have installed the patch,will our mission times still be there or will we have to do all the missions over again? ;)

I'm not sure, but with the beta, I couldn't use my old profile. Remember that ranks are a part of the patch. That might cause a change of the profile.xml format, but actually I'm just guessing.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 02, 2007, 19:42:55
I will have to wait and see then :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 03, 2007, 09:15:16
Appox. how much longer, guys?  :)

Good question. Do we have an approx time?

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 03, 2007, 09:20:53
Good question. Do we have an approx time?

Please read this:

Where did people get the idea that we were releasing the patch on aug 31?
In earlier posts we stated we met some unexpected bugs, so things were all delayed until further notice.
We now fixed this bug, finally. Tomorrow we will first make a Gold Master for the Benelux market.
Then we'll work on the 1.1 patch, but that needs to be tested as well for at least a few days.
So my current best estimate for the patch release is some time next week.
We don't want to give out specific dates any more because we don't know what comes up from the patch testing...
Trust me, we just want to do it as soon as possible, as there are many more things we need to work on, like multiplayer, an add-on pack with 2 historic tugs, other language versions of the game, a subscription service for new vessels, the patch for the old add-on pack, a professional training version of the game (mini bridge sim), etc.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 03, 2007, 09:23:39
i did read that.

Sorry, posted itworng. I meant to say it like Britannic.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 03, 2007, 16:00:58
so... when does it come out?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 03, 2007, 16:03:22
Maybe this week ;)
Read Groennegaards reply a little bit further up this page....that where it says : Please read this :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 03, 2007, 16:06:50
so... when does it come out?

Don't say that! The mods will start saying about lazy posting.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 03, 2007, 18:13:51
Maybe this week ;)

or after that :-\
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: CubanSailor on September 03, 2007, 19:06:41
First the 19th, then the 31st, now...who knows when.

I've waited patiently for too long.

And I am NOT a happy customer.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 03, 2007, 19:16:53
Stop talking about wrong things...the 31st August was NEVER an Official Date for releasing the Patch...they (VSTEP) only said, that they need about two weeks longer... And SOMEBODY thought...okay...17th August plus two weeks is 31st August...the date of release...

Please don´t be a child all...just wait and you will see, when patch is coming!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 03, 2007, 19:18:38
First the 19th, then the 31st, now...who knows when.

I've waited patiently for too long.

And I am NOT a happy customer.

You have a game you are too happy. Go find some bugs that they can fix and then you'll be happy.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stew2000 on September 03, 2007, 19:32:58
doesn't matter where you go, you still have people moaning about patch release dates.
Happened with TDU, NFS and god knows how many other games. XD
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 04, 2007, 05:08:27
They promised certain features for release but they released unfinished game early and left some features.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 04, 2007, 05:12:28
Is fire-fighting even going to be included?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 04, 2007, 06:22:57
Is fire-fighting even going to be included?

Was it ever suppose to? No it is ship simulator not fire fighter simulator.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 04, 2007, 07:47:55
If i'm correct there are fire fighting missions being added. BUT NOT IN THIS PATCH! Before everyone begins wining: WHy are there no fire fighting pathces someone said they would be in this patch.

The fire fighting missions also stand on the ss2008 website if I remember correct. But as I said not in this patch.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mvsmith on September 04, 2007, 08:36:05
My opinion is, that they promised certain features for release, but they then thought 'stuff the customers we'll release the unfinished game early and we'll leave out some features for the moment' because they obviously care more about the money then the customers.
I don’t think your characterization of VSTEP’s attitude as “stuff the customer” is either accurate or fair. Their decision to meet commitments by releasing on schedule despite deficiencies—which they fully intend to correct—was a sensible one.
It is not a choice between customers or money. VSTEP needs both.
However, the fact is that they can always get customers eventually, as the problems are sorted.
But without revenue, they will not be able to produce that “perfect” product to offer customers.

Simply reading the wailing over a necessary delay in completing the patch should give you some idea of the tantrums that would have flooded this forum had VSTEP decided to delay the release of SS ’08 by six months or a year in order to ensure that it was entirely free of problems.

Do you want it right, or do you want it NOW?

I find it humorous that many—for whom English is the native tongue—claim that complex software can and should be delivered error free, yet they are not, themselves, able to produce a short post free of errors of spelling or grammar.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on September 04, 2007, 08:41:04
ANYONE WANT SOME CHEESE TO GO WITH THERE WINE  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Bob831 on September 04, 2007, 08:44:05
Good words mvsmith - I agree!!

If we waited for the perfect product we'd have never got Windows - now there's a thought!   :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stew2000 on September 04, 2007, 08:58:18
and windows had SP2. XD

you have 2 choices. make a game and control what you want to release. or sit in your chair and wait patiently for updates and addons.

I wonder if this thread will get to the 500 post mark :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 04, 2007, 09:33:50
I'd rather a game that is complete rather then a game that is still a W-I-P! I'm not impatient, it's just my view of how things were done.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: pmillett22 on September 04, 2007, 12:02:01
I'd rather a game that is complete rather then a game that is still a W-I-P! I'm not impatient, it's just my view of how things were done.

No game ever made was the perfect bug free game. Every game needed a patch or two. SH4 got 3. This game is complete. The patch is a W-I-P. And apparently they do care about the customers to delay a patch due to last minute problems or we would have more problems to deal with and bug the moderators and developers for another patch and get all upset again.  ::) ::) We have 4 days left in the week. The developers said it would be released sometime this week. I'm sure they won't work on weekends so expect the patch by friday.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shamen20 on September 04, 2007, 12:43:39
Well said ,
whats the point in having a patch that need a fix patch to fix the patch cos it was hurried out ?
sure it would be nice to use the patch pre release and testing it like some other software houses.
Most software houses release a patch without anouncments.
As far as i am concerned the patch is eagerly awaited but is here when its here
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 04, 2007, 12:50:12
sure it would be nice to use the patch pre release and testing it like some other software houses.

I presume by this you are referring to a Beta patch, yes?

The problem with this is that Beta testing is a long and complicated process and finding any issues can be a mission in itself ;)

Of course, there are also the further problems that could arise from Beta testing a patch, technical problems, complaints that the patch doesn't work correctly.  This would make fine-tuning the patch much more difficult with so many people testing it, and reporting all kinds of problems that may already be in the process of being resolved :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 04, 2007, 13:00:22
Hehe...I think you all will dicuss the patch to death....
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 04, 2007, 13:01:54
Does anyone know if this patch will open up the Veranda and Palm Court Cafe on the Titanic because the sign did say "Opening Soon"
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 04, 2007, 13:07:13
Hehe...I think you all will dicuss the patch to death....

LOL, possibly....until release ;)

As an extra point for those who don't know, Beta testing has 3 types:

Developers Beta - Only the Developers would be involved with this.
Closed Beta - This is for selected individuals (I am involved with 2 of these at the moment).
Open Beta - This is when a developer decides to release a Beta to the general public.

Releasing an Open Beta is not something every developer likes to do.  Take a look at the many forums for Beta's that are available at the moment, some of the posts don't make pleasant reading at all :(

Regards.

DJM.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 04, 2007, 13:20:53
Does anyone know if this patch will open up the Veranda and Palm Court Cafe on the Titanic because the sign did say "Opening Soon"

As of this moment, not yet.  Some of the development will take time of course, and I'm sure you'll agree that Titanic is already far more detailed in Ship Sim '08 than in Ship Sim '06 :)

We have so much more in this patch than we expected, you will love the new features/vessels :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dej477 on September 04, 2007, 14:02:51
I'm happy to wait for this patch if we are going to get a fully working patch that doesn't need patching it's self in 2 weeks time.

Anybody who's played eve or ever waited for a CCP patch will know what I mean.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stew2000 on September 04, 2007, 14:06:33
Anybody who's played eve or ever waited for a CCP patch will know what I mean.

or TDU. :P
after the patch was released we now need a patch to fix the new cars sounds. XD
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 04, 2007, 14:15:15
Would it not be an idea to close this thread totally now, and the mods set up a new thread that is closed, that they can then post up-to-date official information on the patch as & when details are released.

That way, there will be no more of this moaning which is also boring to say the least & everybody will stay informed & can subscribe to that thread for the updates when posted. ;)

It's just a thought. :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: muns on September 04, 2007, 14:22:30
Would it not be an idea to close this thread totally now, and the mods set up a new thread that is closed, that they can then post up-to-date official information on the patch as & when details are released.

That way, there will be no more of this moaning which is also boring to say the least & everybody will stay informed & can subscribe to that thread for the updates when posted. ;)

It's just a thought. :)

Couldnt agree more. The only problem is that someone will start another thead and the bitching/moaning will continue there instead.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stew2000 on September 04, 2007, 14:24:03
so true. :)
1 post away from 500 too :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 04, 2007, 14:26:00
To be honest, i would just keep locking the threads down & then archive them for referance. Thats what i do if i get this sort of problem that keeps persiting. If threads like this get too out of hand, it starts to cause bad feeling across the forums, as members start to fall out. :(

Dont get me wrong, the mods here do a great job (esp on this thread) & i'm not knocking them at all :) I'm just saying what i may do in this case.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: santi_leal on September 04, 2007, 15:42:09
Tha bad feeling you´re talking about is done because everybody is waiting a patch that doens´t appears. It´s not serious. It´s become a simple arcade game. Really a shame...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 04, 2007, 15:59:11
that bad feeling is because of a patch that delayed already 2 times, it don't surprices me if it delayes another week ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 04, 2007, 16:30:42
Yup , Delayed 2 weeks, why not another week?  :o But i still hope its coming on friday , i cant wait anymore  >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 04, 2007, 16:35:29
Lol this is longiest topic in this forum! :P  50 pages of that topic ,if its delayed again..  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 04, 2007, 17:17:50
well, i hope for them that it will release this week
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mvsmith on September 04, 2007, 17:40:52
ANYONE WANT SOME CHEESE TO GO WITH THERE WINE  ;D
Hard?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Ridders on September 04, 2007, 18:15:25
Hard?


Yes Please!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on September 04, 2007, 18:22:46
Still photgraphing real ships down the harbour in the meantime....
Hurrah! ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on September 04, 2007, 18:42:35
Okey listen up. The patch will be relased 24 december. it,s a christmas gift from VSTEP. 
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 04, 2007, 18:58:49
jokeman...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: pmillett22 on September 04, 2007, 19:05:09
10 to 1 says once the patch is released a new topic on how great the patch is will beat this one. oh and by the way, will that horrible blue line in the titanic be fixed? and will the bow of the titanic when looking straight down  the anchor disappears and you can see the river/ocean underneath the ship bug be fixed?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on September 04, 2007, 22:02:17
Woah, major improvement on the bridge! Looks quite freaking awsome!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 04, 2007, 22:53:07
I'm expecting alot of people to critisize this, but it is the truth.

You got it ;) The truth is your perception only. If Vstep were only bothered about the money then they wouldn't be toiling away making the patch. They'd have abandoned the game.

My advice: Relax. Have a holiday. And a pint. You WILL feel better. And calmer.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: matrixclese on September 04, 2007, 23:47:17
Oh the memories, it was only 18 days ago when I was on this thread waiting for the patch to be released... How young and foolish i was to believe that it was going to be released when it was stated to be, and even more foolish to believe the 2 week time frame after that.

Will someone please pm me when the patch is going to be released? In the mean time I'm going to play a game that isnt broken. Later.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 04, 2007, 23:53:48
The release date was always approximate, as has been mentioned on many occasions.  Pjotr posted this a few days ago:

Where did people get the idea that we were releasing the patch on aug 31?
In earlier posts we stated we met some unexpected bugs, so things were all delayed until further notice.
We now fixed this bug, finally. Tomorrow we will first make a Gold Master for the Benelux market.
Then we'll work on the 1.1 patch, but that needs to be tested as well for at least a few days.
So my current best estimate for the patch release is some time next week.
We don't want to give out specific dates any more because we don't know what comes up from the patch testing...
Trust me, we just want to do it as soon as possible, as there are many more things we need to work on, like multiplayer, an add-on pack with 2 historic tugs, other language versions of the game, a subscription service for new vessels, the patch for the old add-on pack, a professional training version of the game (mini bridge sim), etc.

Ship Simulator isn't broken and any issues are soon to be resolved, patience is all that is needed.

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Dev on September 04, 2007, 23:57:13
so whats the eta now? yes I am very exccited
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 05, 2007, 00:14:34
The will be released when it's released. I guess that's all we can say right now
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 05, 2007, 00:16:08
so whats the eta now? yes I am very exccited

As stated in my previous post, Pjotr posted 30 August and said sometime next week.  That makes it sometime this week (approximately) :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Cloud on September 05, 2007, 03:18:24
Hi DJM,

Quote
Ship Simulator isn't broken and any issues are soon to be resolved, patience is all that is needed.

Sorry can't help it....there's a great quote out there the author of which escapes me....

"hardware will break, and software comes broken"   :D

Cheers,

Cloud
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 05, 2007, 08:27:39
You got it ;) The truth is your perception only. If Vstep were only bothered about the money then they wouldn't be toiling away making the patch. They'd have abandoned the game.

That's the last thing they would do, we know for a fact that there are a lot of errors in the original game. If they didn't do anything about it there would be a lot of people who wanted a refund.

But I guess Vstep is a small company, that's why they need all this time to get the product patched and fixed. I'm a member of the submarine simulator community, when Silent Hunter 4 was released about the same time we saw the first patch after just a couple of weeks, and now that game has been patched 3 times and is close to 100%. But Ubisoft is a bigger company, I know they got almost 40 people working on the game...we sent them all a present last Christmas ;)   
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dej477 on September 05, 2007, 11:37:23
Ubisoft is a bigger company, I know they got almost 40 people working on the game...we sent them all a present last Christmas ;)   

What was it, an idiots guide to code? Seriously tho give vstep a break they are working on a patch which in itself is a good thing. I think secretly they are going for microsoft's record
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 05, 2007, 12:37:23
Quote
If Vstep were only bothered about the money then they wouldn't be toiling away making the patch. They'd have abandoned the game.

Technically, they have to release the patch too atleast add the save, and sinking feature as they had advertised it on the site even for a few days after the initial online version of the release, what I was ultimately saying was, they should have atleast delayed the game until they had the save and fire-fighting, multiplayer, and sinking fixed :]

But I am thankful they are adding in more features for free which is great of them. I suppose I'll edit my old post, as it was a bit harsh. :}


Thanks!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 05, 2007, 13:48:45
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,955.msg9662.html#msg9662

Look, they had made a change in this Topic...the release ist there now announced with September...so I think there may be an other delay...

So it will be a suprise, what time the patch will be released.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 05, 2007, 14:26:07
Please take a look in the announcement section again... :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 05, 2007, 14:31:17
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,955.msg9662.html#msg9662

Look, they had made a change in this Topic...the release ist there now announced with September...so I think there may be an other delay...

So it will be a suprise, what time the patch will be released.

I think they just learned that it is impossible to annouce an estimated release DATE as this could be interpreted as the actual release date by some users. An estimated release MONTH is better and PLEASE read the lines at the top of the announcement... : "This is only for your information, if problems occur release dates can be postponed or features can be reconsidered for release."

Regards :)
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 05, 2007, 14:36:24
next friday the addon(patch) will be released ;D ;D
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2100.0.html
does that mean this week or next??
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on September 05, 2007, 14:48:12
O hecky download overload  13000 online  ;D
glad i have broadband  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 05, 2007, 15:12:34
So is that the set date then? This friday?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on September 05, 2007, 15:16:10
removed genialt. :)  i have one week free from work next freiday. 

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 05, 2007, 15:33:03
This friday.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 05, 2007, 15:35:51
This friday.
Thanks for answer ;)
I will have to wait a little longer since I start working on Friday....I will probably be sitting in front of my PC that night downloading the Add-On(patch) ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Basti1896 on September 05, 2007, 16:06:32
Wow, 500 MB  ;D 
Friday, Friday, Friday  :) I am so happy^^
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 05, 2007, 16:10:02
Woah 500MB is pretty huge, luckily most of us have BroadBand  ;D

Looking forward to the Add-on, thank you VSTEP!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 16:24:46
This friday.

WAHOOOOO!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: matt1725 on September 05, 2007, 16:29:44
Is it this Friday, being the 7th, or next Friday as it says in the announcement? I don't understand?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 16:30:30
This friday.

Thta's what wout said ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: matt1725 on September 05, 2007, 16:32:48
Ok, thanks, can't wait!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 05, 2007, 16:33:32
Well, I read in the features list of the patch that there is the ability to sink during missions


Is this exclusive to missions then or is free-roam also counted as a mission than?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 16:33:37
Ok, thanks, can't wait!
Nor can I! :D

Mission Editor is coming back towards me! ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: tug3506 on September 05, 2007, 16:40:52
Around what time will the patch come out?
Exacly at Friday 00:01? Our....???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 05, 2007, 16:42:18
The announcement says Friday afternoon  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 05, 2007, 16:46:23
Lol, I think this is funny. I'm not getting at anyone mind.
I think it's funny how all of us are specualting when the patch will be out, then we have a day and now everyone is speculating on a time of day. Makes me laugh a bit.
Friday afternoon sounds good. I'm out on the afternoon so i'll set it away downloading in zee afternoon (hopefully it's out before I go out) and it should be ready for when i get back.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on September 05, 2007, 16:58:58
Friday afternoon sounds good. I'm out on the afternoon so i'll set it away downloading in zee afternoon (hopefully it's out before I go out) and it should be ready for when i get back.

If not I am sure you can also download it saturday morning  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 05, 2007, 17:09:09
If not I am sure you can also download it saturday morning  ;D

The servers are only switched on between 9AM til 6PM GTM  ;D ;D Those on dial-up will have to pay for a CD with the Patch on  :P

I was only joking, please do not take me seriously!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on September 05, 2007, 17:23:47
The servers are only switched on between 9AM til 6PM GTM  ;D ;D Those on dial-up will have to pay for a CD with the Patch on  :P

I was only joking, please do not take me seriously!

hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 05, 2007, 17:29:13
This friday.

NOW WE TALKING!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 05, 2007, 17:30:35
Well, I read in the features list of the patch that there is the ability to sink during missions


Is this exclusive to missions then or is free-roam also counted as a mission than?

yeah, i am also courious, but if it is only in missions, i will create a mission with tons of icebergs!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 18:26:31
This friday.

Friday seems very close suddenly ;D

Yestarday it seemed like an age.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 05, 2007, 18:29:51
Well yesterday I thought it was Thursday so in my little "world" it would have been Friday today ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 18:30:13
Well yesterday I thought it was Thursday so in my little "world" it would have been Friday today ;D
lol ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: pmillett22 on September 05, 2007, 18:31:06
The patch is out this friday?????????? YAOOOOOOO!!!! I can enjoy it when i get home from school
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on September 05, 2007, 18:34:14
EXCELLENTE!!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 05, 2007, 18:35:24
The patch is out this friday?????????? YAOOOOOOO!!!! I can enjoy it when i get home from school
also me! i only have 2 hours school that day!  ;D
and after that i can enjoy the weekend with sinking!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Freestyleforce on September 05, 2007, 18:36:20
This friday? Yea right... I dont trust V-Step anymore.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 05, 2007, 18:44:17
This friday? Yea right... I dont trust V-Step anymore.
Well..I thrust the VStep team.
And this announcement makes it sound like they are absolutely sure that it will be released this Friday: http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2100.0.html
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 05, 2007, 18:45:38
This friday? Yea right... I dont trust V-Step anymore.
Hi! :)

Why bother to wait for the patch if you don't trust them? I believe there is still some trust in VSTEP left in you...  ;)

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 18:48:08
Just what i was gonna say. If you don't trust tem don't ever get shipsim again. Simple
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 05, 2007, 19:13:56
I intend to stay quiet on this topic now :P

Oops.....too late :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 19:36:27
I intend to stay quiet on this topic now :P

Oops.....too late :D

 ???uh?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 05, 2007, 19:38:05
???uh?

Was meant to be a joke........well, it was funny in my head ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 05, 2007, 19:38:40
Was meant to be a joke........well, it was funny in my head ;)

Sorry, just grumpy tonight. Brain doesn't work good.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Muttzcuttz on September 05, 2007, 20:23:33
Looks like this Friday could be it :D I hope the VSTEP server doesnt become too overloaded as the masses download 500MB+ each  :-\

Cant wait thanks all  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 05, 2007, 21:01:58
Looks like this Friday could be it :D I hope the VSTEP server doesnt become too overloaded as the masses download 500MB+ each  :-\

Cant wait thanks all  :D


Well yes I was thinking about that and I have the greatest plan ever.

Why doesn't EVERYBODY wait with downloading untill I have the patch downloaded. I will post it when I'm ready here and then everybody else can do it.

Is that a great plan or what  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 05, 2007, 21:27:11
yeah right.. so that you can download it withoud lagging or slow servers ect.. NO WAY! as soon this patch is out i will download it NO waiting anymore, a great plan for you.... the worst plan ever for us...


p.s. vstep has to purchase more then 9999 servers to keep the connection a bit steady  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 05, 2007, 21:30:55
yeah right.. so that you can download it withoud lagging or slow servers ect.. NO WAY! as soon this patch is out i will download it NO waiting anymore, a great plan for you.... the worst plan ever for us...


p.s. vstep has to purchase more then 9999 servers to keep the connection a bit steady  :D


Damn I hoped that I'd tricked you allll (evil laughter :D)

But hey if they have 9999 servers what could go wrong :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 05, 2007, 21:34:23
But hey if they have 9999 servers what could go wrong :P

Uh oh, I was hoping no-one would say that........a hex is on us all now, you know that right? :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 05, 2007, 21:37:17
"Server too busy, please try again later"

That's the message we will see when we try to download it....it will be like that for DAYS!!!!!
Muhahahahaha.............If that DOES happen, I am not being held responcible for it ok!!!

Lol
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 05, 2007, 21:39:34
"Server too busy, please try again later"

That's the message we will see when we try to download it....it will be like that for DAYS!!!!!
Muhahahahaha.............If that DOES happen, I am not being held responcible for it ok!!!

Lol

I think VSTEP might have a waiting service, "You are 5684745 out of 85746244. Estimated Download time: 3 Days"

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!   :-\
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 05, 2007, 21:41:13
Uh oh, I was hoping no-one would say that........a hex is on us all now, you know that right? :P


Whooops and it's all my fault :D

Uuuuuuhm....... I think I'm going to hide somewhere around there maybe ----------->

Sorry guys I cursed you all  :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on September 05, 2007, 22:41:04
Someone should provide a torrent once they've got it home!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: J3nsen on September 05, 2007, 22:47:43
This was a SPAM! :P :P The patch will come the fr 07-09-2007 ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on September 05, 2007, 22:54:47
500 mb? wow. That's almost as big as the game installation and game download size!
Perhaps I was wrong when I said "People are waiting for this patch as if it's the entire game.."  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on September 06, 2007, 00:23:46
Okey people. Are we all happy now ?. I am happy i have a car wife children, xbox 360 a house, cat , work, and now the patch "addon" . And for sure i have coffe and smoke. :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipfan55 on September 06, 2007, 00:45:14
Original post edited, also edited quote here - groennegaard
 :P The patch will come the fr 07-09-2007 ;)
SPAM :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 06, 2007, 01:22:30
SPAM :o

Yeh that was a bit pointless. Well I didn't get it  ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 06, 2007, 04:16:44
why cant people just wait for them were lucky we dont get charged for the download coz thats what is going to start to happen........
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tugboats007 on September 06, 2007, 05:29:10
Hi all, I hate to be a Party Pooper but as I read the message, The patch will not be out until Sept. 14 2007, not Sept. 7 2007.

May be I'm wrong but that was how I read it. It was written on Sept. 5 2007 and it said the patch would be released Next Friday.

If I am wrong someone please tell me.

MJD
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: beat578 on September 06, 2007, 05:41:22
well I don't mind if I see whats in it...
I mean, we already got great things in the game and roaming the ports ni free mode is just great, i didn't even started the missions, just explore the boats and places.
Wow... Dual screen Map, so my 2nd Monitor will not be so bored the next weeks...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 06:03:17
Hi all, I hate to be a Party Pooper but as I read the message, The patch will not be out until Sept. 14 2007, not Sept. 7 2007.

May be I'm wrong but that was how I read it. It was written on Sept. 5 2007 and it said the patch would be released Next Friday.

If I am wrong someone please tell me.

MJD

It's due for release this Friday afternoon as posted by Wout in this very topic yesterday :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 07:28:19
WHOOO 1 day left


btw i expect a lot for 500 mb!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 08:03:54
I can't wait to see what you guys think of the Hovercraft.  Flying around Phi-Phi at 46kts on a cushion of air is great fun ;D

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 08:11:42
yeah, i aslo can't wait..
that hoovercraft looked very awsome on the screenshots, the same as the jetski  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 08:15:27
yeah, i aslo can't wait..
that hoovercraft looked very awsome on the screenshots, the same as the jetski  ;D

The Hovercraft is awesome, I like the Jet-Ski also, but prefer the middle-range vessels.  Red Jet 4, Hovercraft and Sherpa being my favourites ;)

Has to be passenger and rescue missions for me too.........great fun :D

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 06, 2007, 09:12:14
Maybe you can Download the Patch even at the Downloadsites like www.gamesload.de ,too.

Fortunately we all are in differnt time zones...so the server bandwith will we shared a little bit... ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 06, 2007, 10:03:41
I can't wait to see what you guys think of the Hovercraft.  Flying around Phi-Phi at 46kts on a cushion of air is great fun ;D

Regards.

DJM.

One question, does it get sideways??
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 06, 2007, 10:05:08
Also unless VSTEP have a few dedicated download servers I think they should host with Gamershell. I got 350kb download speed when downloading Project Torque  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 10:35:16
One question, does it get sideways??

Absolutely, the inertia from the fans can send you sideways.  I prefer to use small movements to avoid it, unless I am messing about of course ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: marcstrat on September 06, 2007, 10:57:16
Greetings,
Yes,this is great news.I'm very happy with this new patch.
The Hoovercraft is realy great,but maybe heavy to steer,in the beginning.
About the vessels,i'm more in for the big vessels(Vermaas)and that big tanker.
However,the rest are also very nice build.
Regards
Marc
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 06, 2007, 11:09:19
ill be putting my patch on shareza and winmx so if most people could do that it would get downloaded more quicker than people strugling to get it...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 06, 2007, 12:10:37
The new buttons are nice, but what are they doing???
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D (lol)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 06, 2007, 12:23:29
If you're talking of the green and red switches, they are for engine, on/off buttons
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jackal on September 06, 2007, 12:46:59
ill be putting my patch on shareza and winmx so if most people could do that it would get downloaded more quicker than people strugling to get it...

Uhm... are you sure this is a good idea? I guess you have to get some kind of permission from VSTEP to redistribute their patch; even if it's free, it's always copyright protected, which means AFAIK no distribution without (written) permission from the author.
Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 06, 2007, 12:51:08
Uhm... are you sure this is a good idea? I guess you have to get some kind of permission from VSTEP to redistribute their patch; even if it's free, it's always copyright protected, which means AFAIK no distribution without (written) permission from the author.
Ciao,

  Corrado

I was about to say the same thing actually about the permission aspect ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 06, 2007, 13:13:59
GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 14:31:01
my fafourite boat is ofcourse the titanic, after that the fairmount cherpa
and if they can also sink! ...oohhwww..    ..(awsome)


btw can anyone of the mods upload a picture of the pride of rotterdam or the titanic or the latidude when it sinks?  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 06, 2007, 14:45:48
btw can anyone of the mods upload a picture of the pride of rotterdam or the titanic or the latidude when it sinks?  ;D
Or you could wait until tomorrow and test it yourself :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Parsec on September 06, 2007, 15:19:11
my fafourite boat is ofcourse the titanic, after that the fairmount cherpa
and if they can also sink!

I don't ever want the Fairmount Sherpa to sink, it's my favourite vessel... absolutely stunning!  :-*
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 06, 2007, 15:35:13
If you're talking of the green and red switches, they are for engine, on/off buttons


Thanks!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 15:52:24
Or you could wait until tomorrow and test it yourself :)

well, i already saw pictures of the sinking P&O! , thanks to DJM!  ;D
and i also expect that you can't turn of titanics engines  :D
if you can it would be a bit unrealistic
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tugboats007 on September 06, 2007, 15:57:17
Hi DJM, Thank you for clearing that point up. It must have been the translation that messed it up.

Sorry if I miss understood.

MJD
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 16:02:23
You're very welcome, that's why we're here :)

Regards.

DJM.

P.S.  No need to apologise, we all have 'those' days eh ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on September 06, 2007, 16:09:48
As someone posted, the new dashes and controls on the bridge is only cosmetical right?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 16:45:15
and i hope that the bridges are not so empty anymore like the P&O  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 06, 2007, 17:00:33
As someone posted, the new dashes and controls on the bridge is only cosmetical right?

Hi Jazz! :)

You may say that they are cosmetical, but most of the new instruments show some sort of information. The radar shows echoes of ships and land nearby even though you can't interact with the radar. The rudder indicator shows the actual position of the rudder, the rev counter shows the engine's actual RPM and the log shows the present speed.

You can interact with the on/off buttons for the engines and with the button for the ship's horn.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 06, 2007, 17:08:54
ok i didnt think about that but it would help them as there servers wont be held up all the time if everyone did the same . its only a patch . no one else can use it unless they own the sim, put a code on it,, so if people with pirates have it they cant use it ,
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 06, 2007, 17:11:04
But im sure if admin disaprove they would contact ..
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 17:28:05
ok i didnt think about that but it would help them as there servers wont be held up all the time if everyone did the same . its only a patch . no one else can use it unless they own the sim, put a code on it,, so if people with pirates have it they cant use it ,
and what's the point, you can't be a pirate with freeware!  :D

Hi Jazz! :)

You may say that they are cosmetical, but most of the new instruments show some sort of information. The radar shows echoes of ships and land nearby even though you can't interact with the radar. The rudder indicator shows the actual position of the rudder, the rev counter shows the engine's actual RPM and the log shows the present speed.

You can interact with the on/off buttons for the engines and with the button for the ship's horn.

Regards
groennegaard
whooo! awsome! that makes SS2008 a lot more fun to play!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on September 06, 2007, 18:46:33
Hi Jazz! :)

You may say that they are cosmetical, but most of the new instruments show some sort of information. The radar shows echoes of ships and land nearby even though you can't interact with the radar. The rudder indicator shows the actual position of the rudder, the rev counter shows the engine's actual RPM and the log shows the present speed.

You can interact with the on/off buttons for the engines and with the button for the ship's horn.

Regards
groennegaard

Pwnage! No more orbiting the ship for me.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 18:53:23
i can't wait for tommorow  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: saken41 on September 06, 2007, 20:15:25
Here comes Ship Simulator 2008 Version 1.1, duck and cover ;D!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 20:24:39
Here comes Ship Simulator 2008 Version 1.1, float and hover ;D!

Notice the edit.......for the Hovercraft ;D   ^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aidablu on September 06, 2007, 20:26:00
will this add-on also be fixing the ss06 add-on, so it work with ss08 now??? ??? ??? ??? :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 20:28:36
will this add-on also be fixing the ss06 add-on, so it work with ss08 now??? ??? ??? ??? :P

No, that is planned for later in the year :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipfan55 on September 06, 2007, 20:30:56
cant this topic just chill out?i mean,25 pages?that just ridiculously huge.evryone knows the patch is coming out sep.7,2007,ok?wow,every ten seconds i look in my message box and this pops up all the time! :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 06, 2007, 20:35:14
Notice the edit.......for the Hovercraft ;D   ^^^^^^^^

lol ohh dear. DJM trying to be funny again  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 06, 2007, 20:37:15
lol ohh dear. DJM trying to be funny again  :D

 :o :o :o  Trying?  :o :o :o

Isn't it strange how things seem funny in your head, but rarely on-screen ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: eric on September 06, 2007, 21:09:17
Is Agent Austin producing a patch for DJM's T-Shirt? : ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jazz on September 06, 2007, 21:23:52
cant this topic just chill out?i mean,25 pages?that just ridiculously huge.evryone knows the patch is coming out sep.7,2007,ok?wow,every ten seconds i look in my message box and this pops up all the time! :o

People are hyped!  :o :o :o

EDITED: You don't need so many smileys. Please restict to just a few. Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipfan55 on September 06, 2007, 22:49:26
People are hyped!  :o :o :o
totally...

:o :o :o
is what evryones doing on their computer screen while im chillaxing!   

EDITED: You don't need so many smileys. Please restict to just a few. Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on September 06, 2007, 22:50:33
cant this topic just chill out?i mean,25 pages?that just ridiculously huge.evryone knows the patch is coming out sep.7,2007,ok?wow,every ten seconds i look in my message box and this pops up all the time! :o
no, not everyone knows that the patch comes out on friday, i just found out by reading this topic, i stoped reading because it was a waist of my time.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 06, 2007, 22:54:52
and i hope that the bridges are not so empty anymore like the P&O  ;)
Just for those with an interest, heres what the PoR bridge looks like.

http://agents.poferries.com/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/VR_TOURS/VR_FILES/EN/INDEX.HTML

PLEASE don't use the pictures to complain about the lack of X or Y console.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 06, 2007, 23:02:59
Just for those with an interest, heres what the PoR bridge looks like.

http://agents.poferries.com/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/VR_TOURS/VR_FILES/EN/INDEX.HTML

PLEASE don't use the pictures to complain about the lack of X or Y console.

Stu

I'm quite surprised, I thought the bridge would be steaming with technology. Just shows that VSTEP weren't too far away after all. They just need to add 2 more consoles  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 06, 2007, 23:09:21
I don't know, I think the bridge had a LOT of stuff to play with on the real ship. A bit different from the bridge of the P&O Bruges (ex Pride of Free Enterprise) which was only a little abve steam power by comparison.

But whether adding the extra console detail would have been a worthwhile use of development time is a different issue, imho.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 06, 2007, 23:11:12
I don't know, I think the bridge had a LOT of stuff to play with on the real ship. A bit different from the bridge of the P&O Bruges (ex Pride of Free Enterprise) which was only a little abve steam power by comparison.

But whether adding the extra console detail would have been a worthwhile use of development time is a different issue, imho.

Stu

Well things like that can be added at a later date, however the bridges before hand looked a bit lonely and empty but now they look great (as far as I can tell from the screenshots)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 06, 2007, 23:36:48
School makes waiting seem like so much less. :p
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 07, 2007, 00:53:14
Do you know what I can't figure out? This patch is supposed to be around 500MB right? That's half of a gig so it's pretty huge. I can't help wondering if there's something else included in the update that the mods and VSTEP doesn't want us to know  :P

I'm thinking there might be, but remember this is only my thoughts and not an official comment.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Dev on September 07, 2007, 00:57:33
yeah seems like there could be more than just two new ships and 'extended' environments still i wouldnt get my hopes up though
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 01:03:55
Hey Dev,

you forget there are all new bridges. So you have all ships in the Download because the bridge is included in the 3D Model of every ship.

greetings strassenkreuzer
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Dev on September 07, 2007, 01:07:59
ah yes i forgot that detail i mentioned this in another post but i wondering will the ships sink in rough weather
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on September 07, 2007, 01:30:14
School makes waiting seem like so much less. :p
I agree
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipfan55 on September 07, 2007, 02:23:29
even though school is a life waster,id rather stay home rather than getting temper mental with my teacher.
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 07:46:21
pay day boys

the bridge of the P&O looks a lot diffrent then in the game ;D

i also don't get it why people are so angry because the ammount of pages, take a look on other forums, they can even have more then 500 pages, and 26 pages are not much, so the guys who are complaining have to chill out ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: gzerovti on September 07, 2007, 07:52:19
When we get the patch which files will it be installed into?

Thanks

Terry
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 07:52:55
today! ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mark0326 on September 07, 2007, 07:54:15
Do you know what I can't figure out? This patch is supposed to be around 500MB right? That's half of a gig .......

I would imagine that the new patch deletes most of your existing installation except for your important settings / scores and re-installs from fresh, that way we would all starting off from the same level playing field and so the cause of any problems should be easier to narrow down.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing what's new and how differently the ships handle.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 08:02:50
is there also an exact time? like i heared that it will release this afternoon, so i think near 12.00 or 14.00  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 08:10:35
The German Mod´s didn´t talk about a time...but...I´ve to work till 15 o´clock and after finish work I have to drive an hour home by car...so if the patch should be released, when I´m at home  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nathanael on September 07, 2007, 08:13:20
I got up early to check to see if it might of been released already. but no... well at least school will pass the time.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 08:17:08
i now go to school and after 50 mins i can go home  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 09:14:16
No, that is planned for later in the year :)

Regards.

DJM.

I hope the SS06 addon will be released again compitable with SS08, or do I actually have to buy the old SS06 addon?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 09:24:22
I hope the SS06 addon will be released again compitable with SS08, or do I actually have to buy the old SS06 addon?

The Ship Sim '06 Add-On will be made compatible with Ship Sim '08 to users who purchased the Add-On ;)

Any other Add-On possibilities for Ship Sim '08 are yet to be confirmed :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 09:30:08
The Ship Sim '06 Add-On will be made compatible with Ship Sim '08 to users who purchased the Add-On ;)

Any other Add-On possibilities for Ship Sim '08 are yet to be confirmed :)

Regards.

DJM.

I see, so I have to buy the 06 addon then and wait for a patch or something, I would like to include the cruise ship ;)

My spelling error, compitable=compatible...isn't it sweet ;D

Thanks.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: William Bensch on September 07, 2007, 10:15:50
today!?? :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on September 07, 2007, 10:22:09
I think today will see the most online record broken  ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 10:27:22
How late GMT+1 will the patch be online?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 10:47:53
How late GMT+1 will the patch be online?

There is no definitive confirmation on a time, just 'afternoon' :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mark0326 on September 07, 2007, 10:50:10
At least they are not saying 'tomorrow' as that never comes!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 11:05:53
There is no definitive confirmation on a time, just 'afternoon' :)

Regards.

DJM.

Its afternoon now here  :) where's the patch?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 11:08:25
Yes! here too!  ;D

hope it comes soon

the computer is on and I look at this site every 5 minute!  :P


12:08 here now..

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:10:45
and if the words delayed are spoken again by a moderator, i am go mad!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 11:12:39
Look...in the FAQ Section they have released a video which shows you the features of the V1.1 of Shipsim 2008!


Yes! here too!  ;D

hope it comes soon

the computer is on and I look at this site every 5 minute!  :P


12:08 here now..



Offtopic: Why do you (from sweden) have a Username with a german word for tomato?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 11:13:08
and if the words delayed are spoken again by a moderator, i am go mad!  :D

Funny you should say that because my Dinner was delayed the other day due to helping a friend with her PC :P



Only joking of course ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:15:39
delayed

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHHHRHHRHRHRHHH!!!!
 :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 11:16:08
Look...in the FAQ Section they have released a video which shows you the features of the V1.1 of Shipsim 2008!


Offtopic: Why do you (from sweden) have a Username with a german word for tomato?

Tomaten is swedish for tomato too  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 11:17:34
Breaking News: Just in from VSTEP..

Sorry, there is an unexpected server problem. The patch will be released some time next week.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:20:01
jokeman... not funny anymore........
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 11:21:49
Tomaten is swedish for tomato too  ;D

Yea...THE tomato you should say. I know a guy they call the tomato, he's very shy and happens to turn red all the time ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 11:24:15
If the patch is delayed again i will personally sticker every vstep employee his or her car with Ajax stickers  ;) ;D ;)  muhahahaha.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:24:22
something is saying to me that the patch will come today..... my internet connection is c*** , as it happens,

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 11:26:18
Breaking News: Just in from VSTEP..

Sorry, there is an unexpected server problem. The patch will be released some time next week.



Jou kidding???? AAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:28:08
oh pardon me, DJM  :-X




Jou kidding???? AAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

he's just joking, so far no moderator says nothing about delaying it won't happen, this is just a joke... a very old one actualy......a delayed one!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 11:29:29
Yes I'm kidding... :D

But I wouldn't be surprised..

I heard around 3PM CET, if that's correct you still got 2,5 hours to wait. So just relax
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 11:31:03
Tomaten is swedish for tomato too  ;D
Tack!

@Subwolf...stop saying something like this...later today I will get my PC-Wheel...and I wanted to use it with the patched Version of SS08...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 11:31:30
 ;) :) :) :) :) :)

that was a funny joke!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:32:02
Yes I'm kidding... :D

But I wouldn't be surprised..

I heard around 3PM CET, if that's correct you still got 2,5 hours to wait. So just relax

yeah ;)
i hope for them that it won't delay, or vstep's reputation will sink to titanic
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 11:36:09
where do i download the patch from and will they tell us its ready..

o what a lovely day it is out in the harbour .
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 11:37:07
where do i download the patch from and will they tell us its ready..

o what a lovely day it is out in the harbour .


http://www.shipsim.com/downloads/patches.php?PHPSESSID=d6b5bfbaabb95caacd52fd19758dd6e6
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 11:39:30
thanks alot mate just had to make sure i had the right page..
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:43:04
mmm.. maybe we should take a competition on who's makes the longest sinking time of titanic ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 11:46:39
good idea!! ^^^^^^^^

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: joostmansjr on September 07, 2007, 11:49:29
 :'( :'(
when i am tell so much bull**** i have no job more.
ship is removed from hard disk now
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 11:50:55
:'( :'(
when i am tell so much bull**** i have no job more.
ship is removed from hard disk now

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:51:51
ok and now in english ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: joostmansjr on September 07, 2007, 11:55:37
when vstep just say they have more work with the patch justb say that and make no more promisses for the next week.
say the patch is ready next year.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 11:57:45
well, i know that the patch will release today... isn't it? vstep??
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 11:57:59
when vstep just say they have more work with the patch justb say that and make no more promisses for the next week.
say the patch is ready next year.

If I can just offer a more objective view on this.  Vstep's previous dates for patch release were always approximate, never definite.

Problems occur in everything in life, game development is no exception :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 11:59:03
Ok te afternoon exists here for over an hour allready, now where's our patch  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:00:43
mmm, uploading 500mb takes time ;)

they always say: ''patiend will always be rewarded''
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 12:03:15
It takes a lot of time if you upoad from a normal broadband line to a external server, it should take seconds if you do it over a 1gigabit network  to a local server
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: joostmansjr on September 07, 2007, 12:07:24
problems in life oke .

but not for 4 weeks at a row.
thats more then normal bad luck
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 12:09:35
problems in life oke .

but not for 4 weeks at a row.
thats more then normal bad luck

How do you figure that?  Some problems can go on for much longer than that.  Vstep have been working tirelessly on the development of Ship Simulator and this patch/add-on.

Criticising them for making sure it's right is surely unjustified, wouldn't you agree?

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 12:10:42
Alright, the server will only allow one download at the same time. Now I'm first, and you line up behind me. If you don't behave DJM will have to keep us apart or we'll end up in a fight :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: William Bensch on September 07, 2007, 12:11:51
after seeing the new movie with update im happy with V-Step,

imho shipsim will look and simulate better and better,

and i will be even more convinced after the multiplayer add-on makes it a on-line fest for all..

lets have some more patience,

and dont be to harsh on them when time is a factor...
im shure we have enough of it..to sim in future.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 12:12:16
Alright, the server will only allow one download at the same time. Now I'm first, and you line up behind me. If you don't behave DJM will have to keep us apart or we'll end up in a fight :D

Yeah, you wish lol :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 12:16:07
I am terrified when the multiplayer comes: picture your self showing off your captain skills doing it all perfect and then out of nowhere you are rammed by hordes of n00bs trying to sink you :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 12:16:52
I am terrified when the multiplayer comes: picture your self showing off your captain skills doing it all perfect and then out of nowhere you are rammed by hordes of n00bs trying to sink you :o

If that happens to me, I'm filing a complaint with the Port Authorities :P ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:17:37
yeah! awsome that multiplayer! i will try it out emideatly, but i guess one thing: i think you can only see hoovercrafts sailing because every one try's them  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 12:19:33
yeah! awsome that multiplayer! i will try it out emideatly

You do realise that Multiplayer isn't included in this add-on/patch, right? :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: William Bensch on September 07, 2007, 12:19:39
and a way to personalize ur ship with ur own companies name or fleet flag wouldt be awesome tooo... :P

You do realise that Multiplayer isn't included in this add-on/patch, right?Q DJM.


  we know..
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 12:21:44
If that happens to me, I'm filing a complaint with the Port Authorities :P ;)

If that happens to me i am importing my cruiser ingame and blow them out of the water. 8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:23:09
oops i din't know that multiplayer releases later.... never mind  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 12:25:15
will the persons that have sign up for newsletter have an e-mail when the patch is realist?
 :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 12:25:40
I am terrified when the multiplayer comes: picture your self showing off your captain skills doing it all perfect and then out of nowhere you are rammed by hordes of n00bs trying to sink you :o

Seriously, in most multiplayer sessions you will receive a warning or simply get banned if you act like a fool and mess things up for others. I guess they can do that here as well.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 12:26:38
or you can let the moderators be a sort of coastgards,,
 ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 12:27:20
oops i din't know that multiplayer releases later.... never mind  ;)

;D

For anyone who doesn't know, the only online aspect in this add-on/patch release will be the scoring system.  This will allow you to upload your mission times to the forum here, and you will also have a Rank attached to your profile ;)

Also, don't forget guys, any issues with this scoring system must be posted in Technical Support ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 07, 2007, 12:27:46
maybe it would be nice for us all, is they guys made a timer from here http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcount.html
and posted the link to the timer for us se we can all check up on the time for the dl link
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 12:33:21
I HATE WHAITING!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 12:35:12
What time o'clock is it coming?  I CANT WAIT ANYMORE!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 12:38:53
no one knows... "friday afternoon"
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:39:49
well this afternoon is almost 2 hours gone
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 12:40:34
yeah.......
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:42:21
mmm.. my internet is much better then before, i think the patch will delay  :-\
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 12:43:44
Whats the matter with you Fins? Take a soda and chill out. Someone said 3pm cet, then there is an hour and twenty minutes left, we just have to wait and see ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 07, 2007, 12:45:04
Whats the matter with you Fins? Take a soda and chill out. Someone said 3pm cet, then there is an hour and twenty minutes left, we just have to wait and see ;)
I dont think any official time frame has been given. (other than today PM)

Guessing time/dates is what started all the hassle over the patch. :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:45:22
you're right!   lets chill.... ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 12:49:31
Oot suomesta! ;D Paljon kello on täällä jos Amerikas (tai missä ikinä onkaan) on iltapäivä?  :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: tug3506 on September 07, 2007, 12:51:33
Wating for this patch sucks.....


Mayby and idea for a next patch, set the date 1 day further en set place the patch on the site haf a day sonner. Nobady would have any negative comments and if somthing goed wrong last day you will have some extra hours to fix it or to report the problemens.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 12:51:44
Oot suomesta! ;D Paljon kello on täällä jos Amerikas (tai missä ikinä onkaan) on iltapäivä?  :o


English only in this forum please, or provide a translation, thanks :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on September 07, 2007, 12:53:21
But the patch will not delay this time ore what ?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:55:14
Oot suomesta! ;D Paljon kello on täällä jos Amerikas (tai missä ikinä onkaan) on iltapäivä?  :o


i just want to say that!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 12:58:29
Was that Chinese?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 12:58:48
lol You must buy Finnish-English traslation book :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 12:59:37
i think so, i tried to transilate it with babblefish, but this country is not in the list, so i bet on it that it is polski
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 12:59:48
Was that Chinese?
It was finnish , not chinese  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 13:00:50
But the patch will not delay this time ore what ?
If the patch is delayed im buying a shotgun and destroying the ship simulators cd  >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on September 07, 2007, 13:02:46
The patch are delayed 2 christmas.  i say that before. But no one are listening to me :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 13:03:52
If the patch is delayed im buying a shotgun and destroying the ship simulators cd  >:(


Be careful...you may shoot yourself ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 13:04:34
I CANT WAIT ANYMORE!!! Hmm... by the way , where can i buy the shotgun to destroy my cd?  :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 13:05:05
Be careful...you may shoot yourself ::)

It may even be shooting back  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: joostmansjr on September 07, 2007, 13:08:14
do not shot them.
send them back to vstep but not with a poststamp.
then can pay for it
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 13:10:09
You all guys have too much time...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 13:15:46
agree ;)

my ecuse is that I'am sick and needed to stay home today.

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 13:16:29
You all guys have too much time...



I know... i am ill and is home from scool............. booooooooring
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: joostmansjr on September 07, 2007, 13:16:59
no i have taken a day of for the patch.
ohhhh stupid me.
so a have much time to kill at the forum
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 13:17:17
agree ;)

my ecuse is that I'am sick and needed to stay home today.





u to... coool
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 07, 2007, 13:25:20
If only they made ship sim 2006 one day earlier, then they would have have started 2008 one day earlier, which means they would have started the patch one day earlier and we wouldn't be in this mess! :p :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 13:26:00
no i have taken a day of for the patch.
ohhhh stupid me.
so a have much time to kill at the forum

you´re kidding? (take a day only for patch?)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 13:27:25
If only they made ship sim 2006 one day earlier, then they would have have started 2008 one day earlier, which means they would have started the patch one day earlier and we wouldn't be in this mess! :p :D

Mess?  I'm wondering when the 500 emails a day will stop because of this topic :P

A little over-exaggeration, but it's getting close to 500 ::)

P.S.  I do watch certain topics......just keeping an eye on you guys ;) :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 13:27:36
like we all expected... delayed again?   it don't surprices me :-\
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 07, 2007, 13:28:28
i think, if i were to ever release a patch to my software, i would promise the patch atleast a week later then what i know i can do, so when people are not expecting there nice patch, they get one surprise! otherwise if you give exact dates, you risk people get restless at their computer pushing the refresh button 100,00 times on the forum.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 13:29:08
like we all expected... delayed again?   it don't surprices me :-\

Delayed?  It's still Friday afternoon ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 13:29:38
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  It cant be delayed  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 13:31:07
Delayed?  It's still Friday afternoon ;)
good point, but i think it will delay again :'(
and who said that it is a cristmas gift?...

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 13:32:55
good point, but i think it will delay again :'(
and who said that it is a cristmas gift?...

There has been no mention of any delay, this is likely to cause confusion.  Unless we hear otherwise, the patch/add-on will be released today :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 13:34:09
ahh, that's great to hear ;D
and i also don't know any reason to delay it, it is finished, tested ect.
it only have be put on the internet  :)

will the mission editor also releases? ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 07, 2007, 13:35:26
good point, but i think it will delay again :'(
and who said that it is a cristmas gift?...

Take your times based on UTC (Zulu) & not your local time. I would imagine that Vstep will be working to UTC, as this will best suit everybody & not just one single location......so time now is 1235UTC.

In other words, it's only just after lunch time! Be patient. ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 13:36:28
ok then, but will the mission editor also release?  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 13:36:48
good point, but i think it will delay again :'(
and who said that it is a cristmas gift?...

NO...threre will be no delay...cause the date is fixed this time...

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2100.0.html

The first date (17th Aug.) was presumably. And the date 31st comes from the forum members itself! Cause at 17th Aug. VSTEP said "maybe 2 weeks longer...now we have 3 weeks after first date...so what do you wan`t?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 07, 2007, 13:36:56
here, i have found a definite time for the patch and put it in this timer
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=5&day=5&year=2071&hour=0&min=0&sec=1&p0=240
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 13:39:52
here, i have found a definite time for the patch and put it in this timer
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=5&day=5&year=2071&hour=0&min=0&sec=1&p0=240

This is inaccurate, please stop posting comments that will most likely add to the debate about release time, thank you :)

ok then, but will the mission editor also release?  ;D

As posted prior to today, please read the full topic ;):

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2100.0.html

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 13:41:58
Take your times based on UTC (Zulu) & not your local time. I would imagine that Vstep will be working to UTC, as this will best suit everybody & not just one single location......so time now is 1235UTC.

In other words, it's only just after lunch time! Be patient. ;)

Well, it's 2:40pm in Rotterdam, and I'm not so sure if the Vstep team wants to work late on a friday afternoon. My tip it's just around the corner, or we'll have it monday :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 07, 2007, 13:43:50
Well it's 10:45pm (22:45) on the Eastern Coast of Australia, and I'm very tired, and would rather download it overnight rather then in the day. :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Poncho on September 07, 2007, 13:44:39
Its 09:40, friday morning In Argentina.
I Still have the hope that around midday local time I'll have the patch!!  ;D

Nevertheless ill be at work so its useless!!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 13:46:46
Ok, just to clarify the official standpoint to avoid any confusion for members.

There is no official release time for the patch/add-on.  Friday afternoon is the official statement and unless we are informed otherwise, it will remain that way :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 13:48:35
So it´s looks like, that VSTEP is working on the patch still this time to get the patch 100% working...

SO THAT NOBODY IS ANOYED AFTER INSTALLING THE PATCH...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 13:50:08
So it´s looks like, that VSTEP is working on the patch still this time to get the patch 100% working...

SO THAT NOBODY IS ANOYED AFTER INSTALLING THE PATCH...



very good point!!!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 13:50:47
Im sure its coming at 12 pm.  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mark Snowden on September 07, 2007, 13:51:11
Good for them if its worth doing its worth doing well so sillence your viper tonges about its delayed

worse things happen at sea ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 13:53:03
Maybe they need some time for upload the patch on different Mirrors, so that their own server won´t go down...so maybe the file is still online but we don´t know its name?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 13:55:43
Poor Vstep, I hope they don't bother reading all this. I'll send them a bottle of champagne when this is over ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mark Snowden on September 07, 2007, 13:56:30
sounds like a plan 8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 13:56:48
As posted prior to today, please read the full topic ;):

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2100.0.html

Regards.

DJM.

i am sorry like i also misunderstand multiplayer  ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 13:58:22
i am sorry like i also misunderstand multiplayer  ::)

No need to apologise, it happens eh ;)

With the size of this topic, some misunderstanding will occur ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 13:59:20
i hope the vstep guys are working really hard right now, because:

I WANT MY PATCH   :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 13:59:46
yeah. well, i can't wait, and i said that much  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:01:11
I have sitted 3 hours in the same place. Why cant it be released now? Im sure soon there reads: "The patch is delayed to christmas , because santa ate our computers. Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 14:02:45
Maybe they can´t upload it ´cause the Forum takes to much ressources on their server @moment :D

So everybody should leave now the forum...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 14:03:14
well, from 12.00 i am waiting on the internet for this patch ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:04:16
Same here  8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:05:49
It's not afternoon anymore :-\  I cant believe this , i thought the patch is finally coming today :-X
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 14:06:22
well, i am going to do something else, designing my cruise ship or something that way..

and it's still afternoon  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomcat1982 on September 07, 2007, 14:06:36
in 5 minutes I go home...W E E K E N D   8)

@pupils...remember the schooltime when you´re working...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 14:06:45
So it´s looks like, that VSTEP is working on the patch still this time to get the patch 100% working...

SO THAT NOBODY IS ANOYED AFTER INSTALLING THE PATCH...

Nah, they have the patch done allready and are on such a power trip they like to see us suffer and beg for it.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jackal on September 07, 2007, 14:06:52
Downloading now! I think I'm the first one...  ;D
Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 14:08:54
Downloading now! I think I'm the first one...  ;D
Ciao,

  Corrado

I think he's joking  ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 07, 2007, 14:08:58
Downloading now! I think I'm the first one...  ;D
Ciao,

  Corrado
where you getting it from?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:09:04
Eh? Downloading? You got it!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 14:09:34
Monkey Sailor, please don't spam, thank you :)

Your topic was removed.

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:09:40
I cant see it , its not in the shipsimulator.com?

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jackal on September 07, 2007, 14:09:50
I think he's joking  ::)

 ;D Yeah, I am (joking).  ;)
Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:10:16
Oh, im sorry Djm . I just cant wait anymore  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 14:10:33
;D Yeah, I am (joking).  ;)
Ciao,

  Corrado

thougt soo  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 14:11:48
Did you see the promo video, its posted today, I think the patch would be great...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:12:31
Cmon now Vstep! I cant play soon  :'( Release it until i have to go  :-[
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 14:13:30
on the vidoe they say, release until "mid september" lol
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:14:14
Im soon 100% sure its delayed  :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: TJK on September 07, 2007, 14:15:29
i'm realy waiting kl.15.15 in norway no patches have been realist yet, how late will the patch be released next friday ?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:17:04
Its delayed to next years christmas  :'( Clock is 16:17 in finland , afternoon is over and no pathces  :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 14:17:55
Its delayed to next years christmas  :'(

NO it's NOT! >:( >:(

 ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 14:19:02
who downloaded the video from pjotr? there is the answer....
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 07, 2007, 14:19:28
Yes, Santa's reindeer ate computers of Vstep  :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Kool on September 07, 2007, 14:21:09
Im going I'll download it in the morning
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 07, 2007, 14:21:28
Yes, Santa's reindeer ate computers of Vstep  :'(


Ow my god those reindeers!!! :o ;D

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 14:21:40
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2132.0.html
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mvsmith on September 07, 2007, 14:21:59
Argh! Still 250 MB to go. The US mirror is real slow. How is it on ShipSim.com?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jackal on September 07, 2007, 14:23:01
Argh! Still 250 MB to go. The US mirror is real slow. How is it on ShipSim.com?


You're late  ;)
Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 14:23:32
Argh! Still 250 MB to go. The US mirror is real slow. How is it on ShipSim.com?


please stop, it isn't funny,,  >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 14:24:56
Hehe this treat is becomming a chat room...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 14:25:30
Behave now or the mods will have to close this thread for a while to calm things down...just a suggestion DJM ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 14:33:06
Hehe this treat is becomming a chat room...

yes, it really does
 ;D :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 07, 2007, 14:33:19
Behave now or the mods will have to close this thread for a while to calm things down...just a suggestion DJM ;)

I suggested that the other day as a way to control this angry mob ;)

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1733.msg21647.html#msg21647 (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1733.msg21647.html#msg21647)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 14:34:42
well, i think the afternoon is over >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Basti1896 on September 07, 2007, 14:36:04
I think the Patch will released in th evening...between 5PM and 8PM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maelmoor on September 07, 2007, 14:36:27
This is sick..people are behaving like fools just cause of a patch..I think you should get a grip of what life is about first, you will understand one day, until then, relax. The patch comes when it comes
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 14:36:45
well, i think the afternoon is over >:(

depends on where you are  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 07, 2007, 14:37:02
I think they have gone early home for the weekend :D Pjotr is @ home. Thinking hhhhhmmmmm I think I have forgotten something ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Jackal on September 07, 2007, 14:38:01
This is sick..people are behaving like fools just cause of a patch..I think you should get a grip of what life is about first, you will understand one day, until then, relax. The patch comes when it comes

You should have seen when people were waiting for PMDG's 747 for Flight Simulator!  ;)
Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: TJK on September 07, 2007, 14:39:48
i'm confused are the patch coming today or not ? Yes or no pleace
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 14:39:52
I think they have gone early home for the weekend :D Pjotr is @ home. Thinking hhhhhmmmmm I think I have forgotten something ;D

Edited for innapropriate comments, please refrain from 'having a go' at Vstep employees, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Tomaten on September 07, 2007, 14:41:03
i'm confused are the patch coming today or not ? Yes or no pleace

Yes :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 14:41:54
i'm confused are the patch coming today or not ? Yes or no pleace

I think that knows  only one of the developers, and they are working on the patch and have no time read your questions...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 14:43:15
they said that it will release today so i expect it,

vsteps reputation sinks to titanic very fast

this mornig i was in a good mood
now i am in a bad mood... :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 14:50:41
only admin "wout" said that the patch is coming today not a developer. So don´t VStep said that it comes today.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 07, 2007, 14:52:23
Looking at the video of pjotr. All the new features look great there! :o

But again, there was said that vessels can sink during missions. But is free roam seen as a mission than??? ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 14:54:48
DJM aslo said that it WILL release TODAY.



but don't expect too much... it will delay......again
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 07, 2007, 14:55:47
That was an unneccesary comment. In fact I saw him in here a few moments ago, that could mean that something is about to happen :)

Quote removed after original edit, this is not aimed at you Subwolf, I agree totally :), DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on September 07, 2007, 14:56:03
Okey, Vstep and Moderators. If this patch is gonna be delayed, please answer now, so we do not have to wait anymore today. Peapole get **** off! and if you moderators don't now, take the guts to call those Vstep guys and ask!

Edited for a variation on language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 14:56:54
yeah! answer(s)!
 :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: akkres on September 07, 2007, 14:57:12
Just saw the video. I must say it looks great, a lot of improvements. Now we have to wait till mid septermber. I hope they mean 2007?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 14:59:20
forget mid september!!! >:(

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: tug3506 on September 07, 2007, 15:00:39
Where are all the mod`s en Admin`s?

Can`t they leave a little bit of comments????



It wouldn`t surpice my anymore if they will say around 18:00 that is will be delayed for 2 weeks again....
WHERE STAYS THE PATCH???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: akkres on September 07, 2007, 15:01:23
I think they are now bussy at the "wereldhavendagen" at Rotterdam.http://www.wereldhavendagen.nl/ (http://www.wereldhavendagen.nl/)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 15:02:23
no good reason enaugh to delay the patch!
why don't just one of those mods upload the patch? they got it :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 15:02:53
Where are all the mod`s en Admin`s?

Can`t they leave a little bit of comments????



It wouldn`t surpice my anymore if they will say around 18:00 that is will be delayed for 2 weeks again....
WHERE STAYS THE PATCH???



dude... if the admins arent here, I think that they are working whith the path
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Calypoter on September 07, 2007, 15:03:04
All those posts for just a patch. Calm down people. The patch will come. Maybe they have problems with uploading the patch.
Just relax and play a game ore something for some hours.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on September 07, 2007, 15:03:28
Totally agree. They have to say from earlier then this! Peapole have wait the hole day! They can still realese it, but they have to hold us informated!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 15:03:47
You see no patch, and the last info is mid september, so coooool down! mid september that´s from today up to the 20th. september.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 15:05:57
what´s up with you in the netherlands, mr robville? Are you worried about something?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Freestyleforce on September 07, 2007, 15:07:59
what´s up with you in the netherlands, mr robville? Are you worried about something?

He's worried about the fact he payed 45 bucks for a game that sucks and vstep doesnt make it better

EDIT: Profanity of that sort is not necessary. Stuart
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: tug3506 on September 07, 2007, 15:08:34


dude... if the admins arent here, I think that they are working whith the path

They shouldn`t be working on the patch at this time (/day) it should already be finished...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 15:09:10
by the way... if they are uploading right now... we shouldn´t charge the server
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: strassenkreuzer on September 07, 2007, 15:11:21
Its only a "GAME" whats your problem, do anything ohter today, or don´t you have something to do? Help you wife with shopping, bring out your trash or wash your car....
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Troyce on September 07, 2007, 15:11:34
He's worried about the fact he payed 45 bucks for a game that sucks and v-shit doesnt make it better

Hehehehehe, LOL ;D

I'm very sorry, but I totaly agree.
Maybe for the next add-on or new game, take more time to make a good game without to many bugs, then rush it!!!

It's Vstep, not name removed with their c**** *****...


Names removed and edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 07, 2007, 15:12:07
Allriiiiiiight ::)

Everyone wo is here for more than 5 minutes now step away from youre computer :D

Go eat something, go watch a dvd and come back. When the patch is not released when you get back go get another dvd.

Eventually it will come you know ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 07, 2007, 15:12:46
by the way... if they are uploading right now... we shouldn´t charge the server

Lol they are trying to upload it the whole afternoon now, but because of everyone chatting here it go's so slow :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Freestyleforce on September 07, 2007, 15:12:51
Its only a "GAME" whats your problem, do anything ohter today, or don´t you have something to do? Help you wife with shopping, bring out your trash or wash your car....

most people feel kinda removed an I do understand that. Apparently V-STEP won't

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: tug3506 on September 07, 2007, 15:13:07
Its only a "GAME" whats your problem, do anything ohter today, or don´t you have something to do? Help you wife with shopping, bring out your trash or wash your car....

What do I need to do?
I`m 16 so I don`t have a wife, or a car. I dont want to wash the car of my parents en and don`t want to play the realy bugged version of SS08....  ;D


PS I have already look 2 DVD`S  to day en played a couple of hours video games...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 15:13:15
Its only a "GAME" whats your problem, do anything ohter today, or don´t you have something to do? Help you wife with shopping, bring out your trash or wash your car....

go away! you can't change our mood! and do you still haven't in your little mind that we are angry about this!?
this is explaned more then 18342824952901385947843592787954 times why we are so angry!  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 15:14:45
and this is not a game anymore ... THIS IS WAR!



just jokin
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 07, 2007, 15:15:04
nice joke! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Riddip on September 07, 2007, 15:15:17
ok i'm ready to download now, thx for waiting but you can release the patch now ;) !
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 15:21:02
Ok everyone. 

Some of the ridiculous and quite frankly offensive comments are over the top and unnecessary.  I have edited numerous posts and had to remove some of them.

If this immature behaviour doesn't stop, this topic will be locked.

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 07, 2007, 15:34:37
One more reply which doesn't make sense will result in a warning and can result in a ban. The patch will be released in the afternoon, everyone incapable of waiting a couple of ours should find another place to cry. Losing your patience because you want an addon so badly only says something about the quality of your life.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 07, 2007, 15:43:03
One more reply which doesn't make sense will result in a warning and can result in a ban. The patch will be released in the afternoon, everyone incapable of waiting a couple of ours should find another place to cry. Losing your patience because you want an addon so badly only says something about the quality of your life.

im in agreement, though the wise thing to do would be lock it, or better yet tell everyone its delayed a few weeks, after these frantic crazy people give up and leave their PCs, release it.
i think that'll put a quick end to lots of these, 'where is my patch?' posts
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nathanael on September 07, 2007, 15:46:04
No, i think after what Wout said(which was a good thing) people will stop being offensive and rude. i think it is stupid to say stupid things to V-Step. I think V-step is a great company and will have a lot in the future! A small personal message from myself: WELL DONE V-STEP!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on September 07, 2007, 15:49:18
Out of interest.

What do you all intend to do first, once you have the patch installed?




Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nathanael on September 07, 2007, 15:50:38
That is a good question
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Sony532 on September 07, 2007, 15:50:55
i agree with you two tooNathael and avignale2 ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Maik on September 07, 2007, 15:51:05
I think I'll try out the longer missions :D I am waiting for the save function  ;)

That's just because I may have to run away for a few hours so it isn't really useful for me to start a longer mission because I can't complete it have of the time!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 15:52:00
i am quite now  ;)
now i got what i want: a patch :)

i hope that NIELS can understand that >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: agibbs98 on September 07, 2007, 15:52:29
Hi, im downloading the test version of the 1.1 patch and it ses it will take 140 hours! Is this normal or am i doing something wrong?? ???

Thanks
Andrew
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nathanael on September 07, 2007, 15:53:18
I would probably...... ::)
Try out the Hovercraft and Jet Ski and the sinking thing. And I can edit a mission too! this is going to be great! ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 15:54:30
140 hours!? that is probaly an miscallculated time, happens me sometimes ;)
and my download is on 38%, same as my internet connection  :-X
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Freestyleforce on September 07, 2007, 15:55:03
probably overloaded servers
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nathanael on September 07, 2007, 15:55:54
I cant get too the technical support thing because when I type in the License key from SS06 and SSo8 box it says that someone is already using it! >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 15:56:00
what big sence one patch can make  :o 
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Basti1896 on September 07, 2007, 15:56:06
400 kb/s  ;D 180 MB done. The download findished in 15 Minutes  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 15:57:39
ah 42%, i think my connection goes better now, i got 207 mb!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 07, 2007, 15:58:30
I cant get too the technical support thing because when I type in the License key from SS06 and SSo8 box it says that someone is already using it! >:(
Please PM me with both your license keys, we'll sort it out.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nathanael on September 07, 2007, 16:01:43
Sorry but what does PM mean?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 07, 2007, 16:02:36
Personal Message, push the balloon button under my name.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 16:03:55
can some one tell what program to use to design ships and where to get it please
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:04:48
3ds max, cinema 4d, but shipsim08 is unmoddable (un moddificatable)  in other words, you can't edit game
if you also weren't planning to change the game, you can get it by going to the homepages of 3ds max and cinema 4d, typ it on google, and you will get the main results ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Nathanael on September 07, 2007, 16:06:30
I sent a message Wout.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 16:08:33
3ds max, cinema 4d, but shipsim08 is unmoddable (un moddificatable)  in other words, you can't edit game
if you also weren't planning to change the game, you can get it by going to the homepages of 3ds max and cinema 4d, typ it on google, and you will get the main results ;)




ok thanks   u  no where i would get it from
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:08:40
you can purchase the software, but it is very expensive (it's up to 400 euro's)
you can get it illegaly with download programs such as ares or server name removed or something like that ( i hope i may say that)

lol, every one got his stats now, and every one is a rookie yet,   :)

EDIT: I appreciate you are trying to help another member, but please do not encourage people to use ilegal copies of ANY software. Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 16:09:38
I sent a message Wout.


you  sure  you havent  got anouther  member  name
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: psolk on September 07, 2007, 16:10:12
Where are you downloading from???
-Paul
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 16:11:35
Where are you downloading from???
-Paul



http://www.vstepsupport.com/ShipSim2008/Downloads/ShipSim2008_Update_v1.1_RC.exe
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:13:34
it was one h*ll of a day today :P\
and my procces in on 60% 297 mb
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JHB on September 07, 2007, 16:13:42
LOL! Hot server that's for sure. I think I wait :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: psolk on September 07, 2007, 16:14:10
Thank you!
Wow, 690 KB/Sec. Nice Bandwidth V-Step!!!!
Looks like I will have the whole thing in ~ 10-12 minutes.
Thanks again Quen
-Paul
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on September 07, 2007, 16:14:45
You know I can not believe all the crying and B.S. about this patch. Please do not get me wrong but I too would love the patch and am finding the simulation boring with out it. However I am sure it will be worth the wait. I for one would want it correct and not full of other bugs. After reading all this complaining I have a sujestion. If you are so unhappy that you spend all your day on line crying why not return the game and get your money back and move on with your life. This is just a simulation and speaks volumes that you all need to get a real life. Keep up the good work Vstep. I for one will take the patch when it comes and will continue to support your effort. In the mean time will fly around the area in FS and find good ports.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:15:37
LOL! Hot server that's for sure. I think I wait :P

no need for waiting, my connection goes fast and smooth, even i have my connection on 38% now
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: svenus1 on September 07, 2007, 16:19:49
is this link to the shipsim2008 update where u can cruise with hovercrat etc ??


Link removed, DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:22:40
yes ;) if it's 494 mb it is correct
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Barbossa on September 07, 2007, 16:24:02
What do you do to get the Game status (rookies, etc.) ???

Do i need the patch first or what


Regards

Cap Barbossa
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:25:47
with the patch you can upload your game score, it will display the things were you are good into ;)
after the BETA testings this topic can be finally closed :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on September 07, 2007, 16:27:26
I must have a slow connection.


0%

140 hours to go

0.7 KB/sec


Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:28:22
yup, slow connection, your modem is overloaded probaly, (if you got one, try to switch it off and then on, if it is possible ;))
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: psolk on September 07, 2007, 16:28:58
Try to disconnect and then reconnect.  I have not seen below 390...
-Paul
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:30:29
just what i wanted to say ;D
btw i done 74% now with 367 mb!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Barbossa on September 07, 2007, 16:31:34
i have 35 KB/s :-\  if sucks :'(

7%  3 more hours

 ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: psolk on September 07, 2007, 16:33:00
I am all done, 17 minutes for the whole thing.  Big thanks to V-Step for the bandwidth and releasing today EXACTLY as they said they would.  There should be quite a few apology post coming...
-Paul
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:33:54
@ barbossa that's a shame, my connection is on 89,0 kb/s

concratz psolk!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 16:34:19
3kb :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: psolk on September 07, 2007, 16:34:40
Thx Mr Robville..
Installing now :)
-Paul
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:34:57
good luck ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Barbossa on September 07, 2007, 16:35:49
Lucky you mr robville :D

9% weeeee
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: muns on September 07, 2007, 16:39:21
There should be quite a few apology post coming...

There should be but I am not holding my breath.

BTW, thanks VSTEP, delivered as promissed.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JHB on September 07, 2007, 16:42:37
49.7 kbps ... 2 hr and 41 min  :D
Oh... I think that server will be very busy trough the rest of this day ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on September 07, 2007, 16:48:54
My download is now super fast.

Try these links.


Links removed, it was put in Technical Support for a reason, DJM.



Enjoy



Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 16:53:35
My download is now super fast.


Same here
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: svenus1 on September 07, 2007, 16:57:43
my is currently 200kb/sec xD 61%downloaded
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 16:59:33
oooooohhwwww... 99%!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 16:59:51
Mine is 297kb 61% Not long. 12 minutes now :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 17:00:35
i need 4 mb now!  :o
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Barbossa on September 07, 2007, 17:01:12
Where can i watch the video on the new patch ???


 ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 17:02:06
look in faq and announcments
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 07, 2007, 17:02:23
I GOT IT!!!!  HUAAHH!!
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 17:02:58
62% Steady speed going now.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 07, 2007, 17:05:17
Okey, Vstep and Moderators. If this patch is gonna be delayed, please answer now, so we do not have to wait anymore today. Peapole get **** off! and if you moderators don't now, take the guts to call those Vstep guys and ask!

Edited for a variation on language, DJM.
Oh, OK. Speaking to us like that has really motivated me to go and try and find out. Thanks for that.

Stuart
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: cdfuture41 on September 07, 2007, 17:05:51
I HAVE ONLY DOWNLOADED & PLAYED @ WORK FOR ABOUT 4 MIN & i LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THE NEW VERSION.  VERY WORTH THE WAIT THANKS!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 17:06:39
Oh, OK. Speaking to us like that has really motivated me to go and try and find out. Thanks for that.

Stuart

New sig per chance? This topic must have the most edited posts on the forum.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: saken41 on September 07, 2007, 17:11:52
1,00KB/Sec - 8,00KB/Sec...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: cdfuture41 on September 07, 2007, 17:13:58
What is the mission editor for, do we need it over & above the update 1.1?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 17:14:31
You make your own missions in the mission editor.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Gertjan on September 07, 2007, 17:15:43
wohooo, i got it also   :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 17:17:54
98%. After this i'll play it then do something else. :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: saken41 on September 07, 2007, 17:18:52
You make your own missions in the mission editor.

I heard someone who downloaded Ship Simulator 2008 Verison 1.1 said he couldn't start it up, if you have it, does it work for you :-\?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Sony532 on September 07, 2007, 17:29:33
i have to insert the serial key but i dont have the box any more(my house buned down i have only mine hp pavilon :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: cdfuture41 on September 07, 2007, 17:30:17
Works great & so does the Mission editor.  I may leave work & run home to play it or find an empty meeting room & play hokky on site @ work.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: cdfuture41 on September 07, 2007, 17:32:19
Yes not having the key is goind to be an issue.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 07, 2007, 17:33:00
i have to insert the serial key but i dont have the box any more(my house buned down i have only mine hp pavilon :'(
Ah, sure. And by accedent you forgot to register your license key on the forum as well? And you haven't got a proof of purchase anymore? I'm afraid you're going to have to buy the game again.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Sony532 on September 07, 2007, 17:35:34
yes i think so too
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Barbossa on September 07, 2007, 17:57:35
Do you have to register the code for shipsim2008 for the patch to work on not ???

 ;)

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 17:59:14
yes you do
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 18:00:35
any one no how to use two monitors so i can have the chart on one and the sim on the outher
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 07, 2007, 18:02:26
any one no how to use two monitors so i can have the chart on one and the sim on the outher
If you ask in tech support, you may get a better response. This is for discussing the patch.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on September 07, 2007, 18:03:37
Hey again guys! I just want to say sorry for the hard time i gave you guys (admin and mods) earlier today, i know i was not so great against you guys! I just wanted to have the patch!

So, sorry, and i can promes this will NOT happend again!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Quen on September 07, 2007, 18:05:36
so how are you in this foram then if you dont have the key you mut be registerd to be in here  look in your profile down the bottem it should tell you
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Barbossa on September 07, 2007, 18:10:21
i registered the previous versions but not 2008 jet :)

i
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Riddip on September 07, 2007, 18:13:57
i noticed that i need no cd to start shipsim now, is this new after installing the patch or was i t the same with v1.0?

great patch btw  8), even if i encountered some (small) errors (listed in the support forum)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: eric on September 07, 2007, 18:20:35
GREAT PATCH!! Mine working like a dream so far. Thanks V-STEP - well worth the wait. : :D




Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: AlexKall on September 07, 2007, 18:35:00
so how are you in this foram then if you dont have the key you mut be registerd to be in here  look in your profile down the bottem it should tell you

Only Tech support and Missions require a vaild key :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Barbossa on September 07, 2007, 18:37:55
Thanks Alex ;D ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: gamer94 on September 07, 2007, 18:38:58
I can´t drive! There are little red lights glowing beside the green lights! :'(
And suddenly the ship sank :'(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Aaron1927 on September 07, 2007, 18:44:14
The Patch has created some problems with Titanic.  Here's a few:


- Titanic is now silent/no engine noise, no horn
- Black shadow bar still on side of Titanic
- You can't fly and hover around the ship as before (hold the run key and look up)
- Titanic won't sink, no damage at all
- As soon as I loaded the Titanic in San Francisco, the game crashed


I want this!!!


(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/Aaron1927/tt1.jpg)


Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Ferrymaster on September 07, 2007, 20:01:51
where can you download the patch????????
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 20:09:25
It's only available in the Technical Support board.  Please note that you will need a registered licence key to access that area :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipfan55 on September 07, 2007, 20:29:02
Lemme guess,their gonn a delay iot again and on christmas theyll ghive us a present...a delay. >:(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 07, 2007, 20:30:00
You can get it now! Go to tech support of ss08 and there's a download link.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: agibbs98 on September 07, 2007, 20:32:18
When you first started up SS with the add-on did you get a thing saying 'Enter lisence key for: NULL' If so can you tell me where you find this lisence key because my game is not working now!  :'(

Cheers Andrew
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 07, 2007, 20:36:11
When you first started up SS with the add-on did you get a thing saying 'Enter lisence key for: NULL' If so can you tell me where you find this lisence key because my game is not working now!  :'(

Cheers Andrew

This question must be asked in Technical Support, thanks :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: MERLINXXX on September 07, 2007, 21:18:27
Does anyone know when patch 2.0 will be ready? I still want to be able to fish for the North Sea Grapefruit, and the Wibblefish! LOL!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 07, 2007, 23:55:13
I noticed that they haven't opened up the Verandah and Palsm Court Cafe on the Titanic yet. I hope that comes in a patch soon..

I'm very happy with this patch, I managed to sink....well partially sink the Pride of Rotterdam lol.

All I need now is a computer within the system specs so it can run smoothly lol
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 08, 2007, 00:54:17
stupid download link is broken,DAMMIT
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 08, 2007, 05:01:35
bah i got it working, accidently renamed the editor install file from flashget, what was it originally named?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 08, 2007, 06:38:40
wow 10 pages in one day O_O

The original file names are:

Bugs - ShipSim2008_Update_v1.1_RC.exe

Mission Editor - ShipSim2008_MissionEditor_v1.1_RC.exe
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Godzilla 2007 on September 08, 2007, 06:50:06
Almost downloaded a patch.. This procedure takes a whole night..
16 minutes remain.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: avignale2 on September 08, 2007, 06:54:47
The original file names are:

Bugs - ShipSim2008_Update_v1.1_RC.exe

Mission Editor - ShipSim2008_MissionEditor_v1.1_RC.exe

Thanks, i've archived them on my backup drive under their correct names now.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: m131167 on September 08, 2007, 07:42:20
I promise this will by my only post in this thread...lol but just wanted to say thanks for the job to the moderators that were on call yesterday. Especially DJM had a "tough shift"... Keep on trucking guys and thanks for trying to keep some "sanity" in here ;-)...lol
Best regards
Michael.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipmania2007 on September 08, 2007, 08:35:16
where do you find this download ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 08, 2007, 08:39:01
where do you find this download ???

In the Technical Support board.  Please note that you will need a registered licence key to access this area :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipmania2007 on September 08, 2007, 08:41:46
thanks
your the best  ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 08, 2007, 08:43:37
thanks
your the best  ::)

Heh, you're welcome and thanks :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lanedre on September 08, 2007, 09:31:18
I love the hovercraft ;D
But the jet-ski is really hard to control I think :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on September 08, 2007, 10:19:10
The jetski are grazy. i get it 2 fly and jump like a grazy red bulled. And i get it 2 sink. But the uppdate was great. the only thing i have to set a finger on is, when u are driving a big container ship in the midde of the ocean and hit a little little and i mean a little floating bouy u get 60 % damage :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Monkey sailor on September 08, 2007, 10:38:12
Lol look at my ranking with passenger  ;D I love hovercraft and jetski . Hovercraft is cool because it can move in the beach not only in the water  :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: greyhill on September 08, 2007, 10:55:19
the only thing i have to set a finger on is, when u are driving a big container ship in the midde of the ocean and hit a little little and i mean a little floating bouy u get 60 % damage :)

In reality hitting a bouy should cause no real damage, especially in a large ship, might sink the jet ski though  :D

Check out the video link below, shows a ship hitting a bouy, because the bouy is on a anchored chain it just goes under the ship then bobs back to the surface. the ship would only suffer scrapes to the paintwork.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk1unIEAW7s
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: dragongfx on September 08, 2007, 11:10:06
yes i have seen it before :)  I have worked on a ship driving in barels, ice osv osv and there was no damage. :)  But here u nearly sink hitting a little bouy.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 08, 2007, 13:34:41
I love the hovercraft ;D
But the jet-ski is really hard to control I think :)

I'll never try a real jet ski after this ride, it would throw me off, no doubt :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 08, 2007, 20:07:12
I'll never try a real jet ski after this ride, it would throw me off, no doubt :D

Jet Skis are actually hard to come off. Well i found it very easy to stay on the one I was on
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Cloud on September 08, 2007, 22:30:15
Great stuff! I've already commented on this elsewhere but the editor Really Really unlocks the potential of this program. This patch/addon is significant! and i hope we will see this kind of progress in future development. Good Job!

Cheers,

Cloud
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hudizzle on September 09, 2007, 00:07:53
In reality hitting a bouy should cause no real damage, especially in a large ship, might sink the jet ski though  :D

Check out the video link below, shows a ship hitting a bouy, because the bouy is on a anchored chain it just goes under the ship then bobs back to the surface. the ship would only suffer scrapes to the paintwork.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk1unIEAW7s



Here's another video showing a smaller boat hitting a buoy, and a rowboat, and causing some people to fall off their jet skis  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V7gDSIZuRw

(it's about the middle of the video, i think)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipfan55 on September 09, 2007, 00:14:14


Here's another video showing a smaller boat hitting a buoy, and a rowboat, and causing some people to fall off their jet skis  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V7gDSIZuRw

(it's about the middle of the video, i think)
lol,hey you scratched my anchor!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 09, 2007, 02:49:23


Here's another video showing a smaller boat hitting a buoy, and a rowboat, and causing some people to fall off their jet skis  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V7gDSIZuRw

(it's about the middle of the video, i think)

LMAO that is sooooooooooooo funny!!   :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Xandarb on September 09, 2007, 17:06:25
the path is soooooo great
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on September 10, 2007, 16:20:50
DJM
Sorry but I feel dumb. I am registered but can not find the tech support board. I was looking for the patch 1.1 for ship sim 2008. will it also be put on the ship sim main cite when it is released. Is the beta just a test of the patch. Sorry for the dumb questions. I have tried to find the beta but all links say that page is not available.
Thanks Jerry
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 10, 2007, 16:28:01
You gotta register your serial number on this site. Click on Profile at the top and enter your serial number into that page. Then you can access the technical support forum where the link to the patch is
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JMIRMAN on September 10, 2007, 16:30:19
Thank you. I reg. the game and thought that was all I needed to do. You have been great help thanks
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: trains on September 11, 2007, 19:34:06
does the patch come out on wed or someother time ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 11, 2007, 22:19:45
Tomorrow i think they said
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 11, 2007, 22:23:41
"...targeted at Wednesday 12 September."
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2139.0.html

This is the latest ESTIMATE!

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Doc on September 11, 2007, 22:32:10
"...targeted at Wednesday 12 September."
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2139.0.html

This is the latest ESTIMATE!

Regards
groennegaard

Anyone knows if we'll have to download it again or will it be the same as the "RC" patch we already have ?

Also, if we have to re-download it, should we do a fresh installation of the game or can we install it over the v.1.1"RC" installation we already have ?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 11, 2007, 22:34:43
Anyone knows if we'll have to download it again or will it be the same as the "RC" patch we already have ?

Also, if we have to re-download it, should we do a fresh installation of the game or can we install it over the v.1.1"RC" installation we already have ?

I'm glad you asked that. I was thinking the same thing!  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 11, 2007, 22:40:45
Anyone knows if we'll have to download it again or will it be the same as the "RC" patch we already have ?

Also, if we have to re-download it, should we do a fresh installation of the game or can we install it over the v.1.1"RC" installation we already have ?

The RC patch is a Release Candidate and not the final release. You will have to download the final version when it's ready. You will probably have to do a fresh installation of the game when the final version of the patch arrives, but I'm not sure about that. Installation instructions will follow when the patch is ready.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Doc on September 11, 2007, 22:43:10
Thanks for the fast reply groennegaard  :)

Looking forward to get the patch!
(and hopefully resolve my issues with the game, but that's off-topic)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: groennegaard on September 11, 2007, 22:49:58
You are welcome, Doc! :)

If you have reported your issues VSTEP will try to fix them before the release of the patch.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: umytbnext on September 12, 2007, 06:33:25
OK before the mods flame me - I've swam through all 39 pages of this thread, and looked over the SS site, and I cannot locate a patch download link that works (for ANY SS08 patch).

Can someone please post a link?  If we are having bandwidth issues, then can we have it on multiple servers?

I'm also seeing screenshots of all kinds of different boats and ships for SS08, yet I cannot find a thread on how to add them or where to download them.  Again, I'm sure it's on the forum somewhere, and a week or so of searching may yield a result, but I've been looking for an hour with no luck.  Any help

Thank you!

Drew

btw... http://www.vstepsupport.com/ShipSim2008/Downloads/ShipSim2008_Update_v1.1_RC.exe  is giving me a "Page Not Found" error.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Doc on September 12, 2007, 06:37:23
Drew,

The links to the RC-patch (Release Candidate) have been removed because later on today the final version of the patch will be released.

Cheers,

Doc
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: umytbnext on September 12, 2007, 06:38:17
Thanks Doc!

Any ideas about these ship addons I've seen in the forum?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Doc on September 12, 2007, 06:42:19
Thanks Doc!

Any ideas about these ship addons I've seen in the forum?

Hmmmm... not really.  :-\
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Hans Jensen on September 12, 2007, 10:00:35
Do we know if the 'bugs' from the RC patch have been fixed?

While I'd love to have the new craft there does seem to be a lot of issues with the patch... or will there be a patch for the patch ?

Thanks

Hans
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mark Snowden on September 12, 2007, 11:54:27
is their any big diffrence between the final patch and the test patch  ???
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 12, 2007, 11:56:45
is their any big diffrence between the final patch and the test patch  ???

That information is not known at this time.  I believe that we can expect some differences because of any fixes, but this is my own personal opinion, not the official standpoint :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mark Snowden on September 12, 2007, 11:58:25
ok thanks DJM  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 12, 2007, 11:58:51
You're welcome ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Dom on September 12, 2007, 12:26:36
Any idea what time it will be available for download?!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 12, 2007, 13:01:39
Any idea what time it will be available for download?!

There is no definitive time on when the patch will be available.

Please bear in mind that the release for today was approximate, as stated earlier in this topic:

"...targeted at Wednesday 12 September."
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2139.0.html

This is the latest ESTIMATE!

Regards
groennegaard

I'm certain that when it is available, we will be will informed :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Dom on September 12, 2007, 13:04:46
Okay, thanks! I hope it is in the next three hours or we'll be hitting peak time and it will probably take me all night to download it!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 12, 2007, 13:12:54
Dom,

Please re-read the post. there is no guarantee that it will be released today... It was APPROX 12th Sept... Look at the length of comments in the bug reports.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 12, 2007, 13:29:07
Probably the patch will be released tomorrow. This to make sure there are enough mirrors available.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Swiglers on September 12, 2007, 13:32:09
Ok Wout =)

I do not have any problems with the RC so i can just use that in the mean time =)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: xschippe on September 12, 2007, 14:16:03
Most likelely it will be released on 12th September 2008
as it says in the title of the game, Ship Simulator 2008?!! :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 12, 2007, 14:50:49
so.. as i understand, the patch will now defently release today?, well, if it delays again (what i not think)
it is not so bad anymore (thanks to pjotr, who uploaded the BETA versions) ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 12, 2007, 14:53:05
so.. as i understand, the patch will now defently release today?, well, if it delays again (what i not think)
it is not so bad anymore (thanks to the BETA versions) ;)

Wout's post, was not saying that at all:

Probably the patch will be released tomorrow. This to make sure there are enough mirrors available.

So probably tomorrow :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: clanky on September 12, 2007, 15:27:58
Are all the glitches that have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum now sorted?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 12, 2007, 15:33:22
As has been stated already. Frequently. Vstep is working on the list of bugs (have a look at the list in tech support)and there is every reason to be confident that they are being worked on and that all issues will be resolved.

Whether or not at this specific time they have been already, I can not say. I would have thought they will all be sorted though. In most cases it is now just fine tuning as all/most the real bugs have been sorted with the patch already.

Stu

Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: clanky on September 12, 2007, 15:38:39
I meant the glitches that people have mentioned about the beta version of the patch.  There seems to be a lot of pressure on VStep to rush this patch out so that people can start sinking ships and editing missions (strangely sinking ships seems to be something that people see as a good thing?).  Personally I would rather wait a few extra weeks for a patch that works 100% than get one tomorrow that is 80% right.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on September 12, 2007, 17:04:43
  Personally I would rather wait a few extra weeks for a patch that works 100% than get one tomorrow that is 80% right.

My thoughts also.

I think that VStep did a great thing releasing the beta of the patch so more people could test it. I am surprised that there was still so many bugs but it is a good thing that we (users) can report them so they can be fixed in the patch. I would also rather wait and get a job well done instead of rushing things. If it means that we only get bug fixes and nothing else then I am okay with it. It is after all a patch and not an add-on :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JHB on September 12, 2007, 18:36:39
I hope VSTEP will allow us to beta test other updates for the game in the future since we all can help them to sort out all kinds of bugs. I like the way they did it this time and I hope that they will continue to do this 8)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: marcstrat on September 12, 2007, 19:22:05
Greetings,
To the regular members,i'm sure Vstep trust us for that,they realy know that we are a great help.
Thats why they gave us this beta version,because they can't do it on theirselfs.
So they gave us also a part of the responsabilty,which is in my vision,Vstep trust us.
Regards
Marc
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Al Bundy on September 12, 2007, 20:12:39
So they gave us also a part of the responsabilty,which is in my vision,Vstep trust us.
Regards
Marc

Indeed and also get it tested on a variety of different computer configurations etc. It is a really good thing.
 :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 12, 2007, 23:37:15
Exactly... How many hundreds or even housands of beta test hours have we managed. It would have taken vstep far too long to complete that many hours. Well done us!

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 12, 2007, 23:43:43
Exactly... How many hundreds or even housands of beta test hours have we managed. It would have taken vstep far too long to complete that many hours. Well done us!

Stu

There's a scientific program out there which I forgot the name of but this program runs on computers and calculates scientific problems quicker than any scientist ever could. Something like that should be bought to SS to calculate how many man hours have been put into BETA testing  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Doc on September 13, 2007, 05:05:21
There's a scientific program out there which I forgot the name of but this program runs on computers and calculates scientific problems quicker than any scientist ever could. Something like that should be bought to SS to calculate how many man hours have been put into BETA testing  ;D

That would be BOINC  :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: umytbnext on September 13, 2007, 06:04:13
So I guess the 13th, huh?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 13, 2007, 12:34:37
Hi,

I'm correct with this link for the patch when it's released am I? http://2008.shipsim.com/downloads/patches.php (http://2008.shipsim.com/downloads/patches.php)

I just want to confirm i have the correct location. ;)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 13, 2007, 12:40:59
Hi,

I'm correct with this link for the patch when it's released am I? http://2008.shipsim.com/downloads/patches.php (http://2008.shipsim.com/downloads/patches.php)

I just want to confirm i have the correct location. ;)

Thanks.

Yup that's the one  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 13, 2007, 12:45:18
Yup that's the one  ;)

Cheers, i knew i had got it right, but i just wanted to ensure there wasnt some other page set up that i was not aware of.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Wout on September 13, 2007, 12:52:04
Will this be the first topic to reach 1000 posts? Sorry for the offtopic post, but this is an event to remember...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 13, 2007, 12:53:29
Will this be the first topic to reach 1000 posts? Sorry for the offtopic post, but this is an event to remember...

LOL, I never thought a patch could cause so much fuss ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Doomgiver3 on September 13, 2007, 13:05:54
it is always a good thing when a topic reaches a 1000 posts or more, this is probably the third topic that i have seen to reach 1000 posts+ the other is a mod for Empire at War, sorry for the off topic
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Fireburn on September 13, 2007, 14:05:00
I see the patch is officialy released :D Downloading it now, 350 kb/s :)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 13, 2007, 14:05:38
I see the patch is officialy released :D Downloading it now, 350 kb/s :)

Downloaded and installing  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mark0326 on September 13, 2007, 14:15:55
Should the beta be un-installed first or is it OK to install over the top?
Does the new patch take care of that?
If anyone wants to install a fresh copy of SS2008 and update that - how do you go about saving your previous scores and stuff? A quick upgrade guide may help many people out here.

Edit: someone beat me to it on one of the other forums...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 13, 2007, 14:31:29
Should the beta be un-installed first or is it OK to install over the top?
Does the new patch take care of that?
If anyone wants to install a fresh copy of SS2008 and update that - how do you go about saving your previous scores and stuff? A quick upgrade guide may help many people out here.

Edit: someone beat me to it on one of the other forums...

You can remove everything if you want to. I've done a complete reinstall of everything. You can choose to save your profiles (including scores) when removing the game. It will prompt you.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mark0326 on September 13, 2007, 14:33:37
1000th post!

Thanks but I just noticed there isn't an un-install option for the beta patch, hopefully the un-installer for the main game does a good job... about to try.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 13, 2007, 14:34:22
Yes the main game will uninstal the patch.

Actually, I have the 1000th post  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Do I get a prize for having the 1000th post??  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Subwolf on September 13, 2007, 15:18:20
Just check that the Vstep folder is gone, and the SS08 folder in documents and settings, desktop icons. Then there should be nothing left. Install the patch on a clean game, do not overwrite the old patch. Then I smell problems ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: mark0326 on September 13, 2007, 15:54:34

Actually, I have the 1000th post  ;D ;D ;D ;D


You have the 1000th reply or 1001st post - I didn't actually count them to be sure though  ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 13, 2007, 15:59:32
You have the 1000th reply or 1001st post - I didn't actually count them to be sure though  ;)

Hmm.... do I have the 1000th post or the 1000th reply? Perhaps we will both get awards  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on September 13, 2007, 15:59:47
awsome!
the patch is finally out!, even i have the BETA version, i still download the new one, (because i expect that one is better) ;) ;D

really thanks v-step!  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: gzerovti on September 13, 2007, 19:07:06
Just downloaded the patch and after about one hour of playing I am very impressed so far.
The mission editor is great.
Thanks to all, worth the wait.

Terry
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Kevinmcg_ships on September 13, 2007, 21:17:51
Full Kudos to the guys at VSTEP, and also to the users who tried out the beta version of patch 1.1 which helped them to iron any last-minute bugs.

I am very inmpressed with the final version of patch 1.1

It's definately worth the wait!

 ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: umytbnext on September 13, 2007, 21:48:46
Yay!  It's downloading now.  We all appreciate it, Vstep!!    ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: fishlikelong on September 13, 2007, 22:19:13
Right....the question ...

Does the Titanic sink?

I haven't had time to try it out yet
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: tman on September 13, 2007, 23:38:59
i know i might sound stupid, but what are the downloads that say mirror ??? :-[
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 13, 2007, 23:41:02
no its not a stupid question at all. any question to which you do not know the answer is not stupid (there are a few exceptions from a few other people ;) )

The mirror servers are just additional server locations to stop everyone all trying to access the one server... Better to always try and find a server closer to you as it is generally faster.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 13, 2007, 23:41:17
Right....the question ...

Does the Titanic sink?

I haven't had time to try it out yet

Yes she does, I have pictures to prove it :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 14, 2007, 00:04:56
Yes she does, I have pictures to prove it :D

oooo can you post some please??

With a cherry on top...  ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 14, 2007, 00:06:37
oooo can you post some please??

With a cherry on top...  ;D

Already done, in the Media board ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 14, 2007, 00:08:00
Already done, in the Media board ;)

lol I noticed after you had posted!   :P  Silly me  ::)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 14, 2007, 00:09:06
lol I noticed after you had posted!   :P  Silly me  ::)

Nah, we were probably posting at the same time ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Lifeboat on September 14, 2007, 13:23:47
I'm very dissapointed that the moving instruments/console in the Hovercraft were not sorted out, even after the reports that were made about it.
Also the bow waves are less & lower quality than before the patch. For example, in the Sherpa in high sea's, you should get the big splash as you punch through the swell, but you dont get it really, certainly not like previously. Anybody else have the same issues?
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 14, 2007, 14:08:21
I'm very dissapointed that the moving instruments/console in the Hovercraft were not sorted out, even after the reports that were made about it.
Also the bow waves are less & lower quality than before the patch. For example, in the Sherpa in high sea's, you should get the big splash as you punch through the swell, but you dont get it really, certainly not like previously. Anybody else have the same issues?

I've always thought the bow splashes were not exaggerated enough, but then again not many people have mentioned it.

Still an awesome game though!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: J.Ham on September 16, 2007, 12:18:47
Quote
Also the bow waves are less & lower quality than before the patch. For example, in the Sherpa in high sea's, you should get the big splash as you punch through the swell, but you dont get it really, certainly not like previously. Anybody else have the same issues?

The same here.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: NiElS on September 16, 2007, 12:27:51
Yes, also here  :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: shipmania2007 on September 16, 2007, 21:04:49
what the next pacth going to be
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 16, 2007, 23:18:18
Come on! Give them a break. They've just been working flat out on 08 then 2 patches and I would have thought the next thing will be the converstion of the 06 add on to 08.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: J.Ham on September 17, 2007, 02:51:25
Yes  ;)you are right, but you don`t expect that the grafics are being lowerd.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 17, 2007, 11:12:46
I'm not terribly convinced that they are, to be honest. That would have to be a deliberate work by Vstep to lower the quality/quantity of the waves. Why would they do that?

I wonder if some of the other updates are using more memory/ cpu power and that is automatically reducing the bow waves. Like I say, I haven't noticed.

Stu
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 17, 2007, 11:20:27
Hiya all :)

I posted something in Technical Support that may offer an explanation about reduced quality, or the game not working correctly:

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2333.msg24446.html#msg24446

Please note that you will need a registered licence key to access this area :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 21, 2007, 19:35:39
This topic has sort of died!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 21, 2007, 19:36:36
This topic has sort of died!

Not any more, and it's all your fault :o ::) :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 21, 2007, 20:01:27
Me? Well I don't know what to say! :-X ::) :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 21, 2007, 20:04:44
Me? Well I don't know what to say! :-X ::) :P

How about 'Guilty as charged' :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on September 21, 2007, 20:09:29
How about 'Guilty as charged' :P

i prefer not guilty thanks :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on October 08, 2007, 19:59:15
Dead again! DJM, don't say i'm guilty again! I'm not :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on October 10, 2007, 02:55:00
Well I think everyone is enjoying the new patch so there no time for posting in this topic  :P

I've not been on here for aaages so hello all again!!

Oooops, topic still not dead. My fault this time lol...
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: sniperonthehill on October 10, 2007, 07:31:27
Whats the next patch out after 1.1? and whens the first addon coming out? Its ALIVE!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on October 10, 2007, 10:43:46
Oh well, I thought I'd stopped receiving emails about this topic.......maybe not ::)

All guilty parties, please stand up :P

Before anyone asks, no I don't like Eminem, I prefer 2 unlimited ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on October 10, 2007, 14:08:30
Oh well, I thought I'd stopped receiving emails about this topic.......maybe not ::)

All guilty parties, please stand up :P

Before anyone asks, no I don't like Eminem, I prefer 2 unlimited ;D

lol  ;D

**Stands up because I'm the fake fat shady**
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: SSNick on October 10, 2007, 16:36:05
Oh well, I thought I'd stopped receiving emails about this topic.......maybe not ::)

All guilty parties, please stand up :P

Before anyone asks, no I don't like Eminem, I prefer 2 unlimited ;D

LOL
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on October 10, 2007, 16:43:25
Oh well, I thought I'd stopped receiving emails about this topic.......maybe not ::)

All guilty parties, please stand up :P

Before anyone asks, no I don't like Eminem, I prefer 2 unlimited ;D

 :o ::) :-[ :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: JHB on October 10, 2007, 16:54:15
Let's start to scream for another patch (I don't think so...) ;D
I bet it will happen again. A small leakage of info from VSTEP or the moderators and people start yelling about the new patch… again!  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on October 10, 2007, 17:30:52
Let's start to scream for another patch (I don't think so...) ;D
I bet it will happen again. A small leakage of info from VSTEP or the moderators and people start yelling about the new patch… again!  :D


Once bitten, twice shy!!
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on October 10, 2007, 18:15:04
Once bitten, twice shy!!

I still actually have the bite marks from last time :P :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Captain Spencer on October 10, 2007, 18:32:31
I still actually have the bite marks from last time :P :D

I think some people lost an arm and a leg!

Right, lovely topic in time for tea  :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on October 10, 2007, 18:59:38
I still actually have the bite marks from last time :P :D

Get a very hard vest! ;D :P
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: [RWP]DJM on October 10, 2007, 20:38:42
Get a very hard vest! ;D :P

Leather I reckon, with reinforced Kevlar panels ;D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on October 11, 2007, 15:44:32
is the new patch in production already yet?, or are we all waiting for nothing!? ;)
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Master Captain on October 12, 2007, 00:19:00
well this is with out a doubt the biggest topic in ship sim history, 42 pages long, and 1,043 post inclusing my own, get out the record books :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on October 12, 2007, 08:20:12
well this is with out a doubt the biggest topic in ship sim history, 42 pages long, and 1,043 post inclusing my own, get out the record books :D

 :D
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Mr Robville on October 14, 2007, 16:18:19
thanks for an answer :(
Title: Re: Patch time..
Post by: Shipaddict on October 14, 2007, 19:53:22
Good question. It was at the earliest October. I'm happy waiting :)