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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: The Ferry Man on November 09, 2009, 12:55:45

Title: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: The Ferry Man on November 09, 2009, 12:55:45
The Knock Nevis may be bound for the scrapyard. From Shipspotting, it is reported that she is outside Fujairah and awaiting orders. She may or may not be scrapped

http://www.dn.no/energi/article1735098.ece

 :'(
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Cat320DL on November 09, 2009, 15:29:30
That's too bad. :(
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: bsm2003 on November 09, 2009, 16:22:20
Me no speaky on Spanish...

BTW, are there any recent shots of the Jahre Viking / Knock Nevis ?   Everytime I search, I find only old ones everywhere in the web & on Shipsotting.


The article is in Norwegian
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: siso7 on November 09, 2009, 16:27:14
Me no speaky on Spanish...

Me neither, but I do speak and read norwegian :D

For the rest, Google translate is pretty good ;)
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: TJK on November 09, 2009, 16:48:09
Here you have the article in Google english :D


The world's largest ship skrapes
this is probably towards the end of the giant ship "Knock Nevis", perhaps better known as the "Jahre Viking".

"Jahre Viking" was the world's biggest supertanker. After a long roller-coaster career as a tanker, was retired years spent as a floating storage vessel for Fred Olsen Production under the name "Knock Nevis". Now it towards the end.

"Knock Nevis" seeking work in Brazil and India, but the "base case" is that the ship is a scraping candidate, said CEO Jørn T. Roka in Fred Olsen Production at Pareto Securities Oil and offshore seminar Thursday, according to news agency TDN Finans.

Thus, it is probably the end for a bit of Norwegian shipping history. "Knock Nevis" as the ship is called today is almost a mile long - 458 meters. By comparison, one of the world's tallest buildings - Petronas Towers in Malaysia - the 424 meters.

When the ship working as a supertanker, it was too large for the English Channel. Fully loaded ship is 25 meters deep, as the Suez and Panama canals were also sidelined. Although most ports were simply too small for this giant ship.

The ship was in a class by itself. The largest tankers in the world is called very large crude carriers (VLCC) and Ultra Large Crude Carriers (ULCC). VLCCer is up to 320,000 deadweight tonnes while ULCCer normally used for ships of 320,000 deadweight tons. "Knock Nevis" however, is in a separate class with an incredible 564,763 deadweight tons.

Ship's history
The ship was originally commissioned by a Greek ship owner who went bankrupt before delivery. The yard Sumitomo sold, therefore, in 1979 the ship to a Hong Kong company to cover its costs. The buyer wanted to make the ship even bigger than the planned 480,000 dødvekttonnene, so first in 1981, the ship was launched under the name Seawise Giant.

A few years later came the disaster, the ship was hit by missiles in the Iran-Iraq war. After the war, however the ship acquired by the owner Jorgen Jahre, repaired and in 1991 it was again launched under the name "Jahre Viking". In 2004 the ship was bought by First Olsen Tankers and converted to an FSO - a floating storage vessel. The ship has since conversion in 2004 served as storage vessels on a field in Qatar
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Ballast on November 09, 2009, 20:48:37
A vessel with that size and the age of 30 isnt something to be ashamed of! Most bulkcarriers and VLCC's visit the beaches in India on a younger age.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: matt5674 on November 09, 2009, 22:15:25
I protest against scrapping Knock Nevis, the world's largest ship. If she's gone what ship will hold the record of largest ship? QM2? She ain't larger than the Oasis. Titanic can't hold it caue she is in two. the Nevis must stay here and now!!!
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: LukeL on December 22, 2009, 23:29:15
http://www.tradewinds.no/shipsales/article550282.ece

"The largest ship ever built is heading for a breaker’s beach in India, the world’s leading cash buyer claims.

GMS says the 671,803-cbm Knock Nevis, best known as the Jahre Viking (built 1979), has arrived at anchorage off Alang.

It follows much speculation the world’s former largest ship would be scrapped after its near $30m exit from Fred Olsen in late November.

It was widely expected the vessel would be calved up in Bangladesh, the traditional end of the road for VLCCs and capesize bulkers.

In its weekly report, GMS said: The appearance of the Knock Nevis (81,899-ldt) as an Indian sale would have certainly irked the Bangladeshi recyclers, keen to snap up the biggest vessel on offer.

“Bangladesh has performed remarkably well this year in absorbing the majority of the capesize and VLCC tonnage at very firm levels, so to lose out on a vessel of this size would definitely come as a surprise and (possibly) even a blow to some.”

No price has been given for the scrapping of the Knock Nevis, which was bought by an Indonesian bunkering outfit in late November.

Other tankers scrapped in the past week have fetched around $360 per ldt in India and $370 per ldt in Bangladesh. This would mean the Knock Nevis sold for between $29.48m and $30.30m.

GMS added: “There was some concern over whether India has the capacity to take such vessels. However, the sale has been confirmed to Indian buyers and the vessel arrived off Alang anchorage.

“As such, one eager recycler is due to be kept busy for several months into 2010 and will have the prestigious honour to its name of having purchased the largest ship in the world.”

Built in 1976, the Jahre Viking was a massive 564,000-dwt. It was converted into a Floating Storage & Offloading (FSO) unit in 2004 before being switched into an FPSO with its capacity increased a further 25%.

The vessel, which also carried the names Seawise Giant and Happy Giant, is still thought to hold the record for the longest ship ever built.

It was constructed by Japan’s Sumitomo Heavy Industries at its Oppama shipyard, but was never delivered to its first Greek owner and spent its early life in lay-up.

The yard eventually sold it to Tung Chao Yung, founder of Orient Overseas Container Lines, in a deal which saw it lengthened. The name Seawise Giant (CY’s Giant) was said to be a pun on the shipowner’s name.

It was bought by Norway’s Loki in 1979 and was famously damaged in the Iran-Iraq war during a rocket attack.

Jorden Jahre bought the ship in 1991, when it was given the Jahre Viking name, before being sold on to Fred Olsen in 2004.

By Andy Pierce in London"
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: --tractorman-- on December 22, 2009, 23:34:47
Such a shame this particular vessel has to be scrapped...
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 22, 2009, 23:46:52
 :'( :'(

The largest ship in the world...

Such a shame.

Even though, she was sat there doing nothing...

Jack.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 23, 2009, 00:07:36
I protest against scrapping Knock Nevis, the world's largest ship. If she's gone what ship will hold the record of largest ship? QM2? She ain't larger than the Oasis. Titanic can't hold it caue she is in two. the Nevis must stay here and now!!!

If you can better the $30 million or so, then perhaps you can buy it. It's a shame, but I doubt the Chief Exec of Fred Olsen gave much thought to which ship would now hold the title...
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Wave Music on December 23, 2009, 00:34:17
At least there's a little hope that the sea level will go down a bit as they scrapping her.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: matt5674 on December 23, 2009, 01:45:47
But it will continue rising when the polar caps melt
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Wave Music on December 23, 2009, 02:30:28
But it will continue rising when the polar caps melt

Well, then to compensate that, they'll have to increase the quantity of scrapped ships per year.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Minime on December 23, 2009, 02:40:05
if we do that, the land will get so heavy that it will sink a bit for every ship that is scrapped, which will make the ocean rice again, which leads us back to square one.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 23, 2009, 02:45:23
 :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: ::)
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: matt5674 on December 23, 2009, 04:46:15
The only way to stop the sea from rising from melting caps is to reduce pollution. But I still will miss Jahre Viking.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 23, 2009, 10:26:42
The only way to stop the sea from rising from melting caps is to reduce pollution. But I still will miss Jahre Viking.

Global Warming...Yeah Right.. :doh:
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 23, 2009, 11:53:11
Hmmm... global warming... Its flaming well minus 5 out there!

Rising sea levels? Thank God for that... If it wasn't for rising sea levels, then Dover would still be attached to Calais and I'd have been campaigning for a road simulator to include DCITSE.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 23, 2009, 17:48:43
"The 564,650 dwt former ultra-large crude carrier, formerly Jahre Viking, has been renamed Mont and reflagged to Sierra Leone for a single voyage journey to India, the registry confirmed."

I wonder how much trouble this will cause..
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 23, 2009, 18:31:26
I wonder how much trouble this will cause..
How do you mean?
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 23, 2009, 22:32:41
I meant,

I'm sure the Jahre Viking has her own fans...Even though, having said that, I suppose there would not be that public connection. Unlike Ocean Liners, such as the SS France, or United States.

She'll be missed, but, I don't think there will be as big of a fuss, as there was with anything like the France.

Jack.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 23, 2009, 22:34:34
The reality is that the owners won't give a damn about whether shipping fans are upset or not. Sorry, but it is the truth.

But next time you go and buy a pack or razor blades, or a saucepan or even a panel for a car there is a chance that you will actually own a piece of this ship!
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 23, 2009, 22:47:19
The reality is that the owners won't give a damn about whether shipping fans are upset or not. Sorry, but it is the truth.

But next time you go and buy a pack or razor blades, or a saucepan or even a panel for a car there is a chance that you will actually own a piece of this ship!

I agree totally,

And It would not suprise me at all if the same happens to the SS United States, or maybe even QE2...I heard Dubai were selling her.

Jack.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 23, 2009, 23:18:55
Unfortunately, every ship, car, 'plane, etc will have sentimental value to someone or other... Could you imagine how difficult it would be to keep all of them?

Take the US which seems to have preserved about every WW2 heavy ship they had (that the Germans/Japanese didn't scrap for them!)... and what's happened? No one can afford them.

Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 24, 2009, 11:36:28
At the same time though,

Wouldn't you of thought that they would of kept the France? Or QE2?

I think it's important to maybe keep ships like them...Icons of a nation.

I mean...Look at that :o:

(http://www.ssmaritime.com/france-001.jpg)

Or this..

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/QEII_forty.jpg/426px-QEII_forty.jpg)
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 24, 2009, 15:29:22
They said the same about steam trains or London routemasters....

But the reality is that people like to think of keeping them, but not really USING them- so why bother? I'm not knocking your sentimental attachment at all. But it is just not realistic to keep every 'icon'
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 24, 2009, 16:47:55
My own personal idea about QE2 was...

Make her into a floating casino...Get the people on, bring her out to sea for so long..And just anchor.

Would be good money, and would bring money in to maintain the vessel...At the same time, keeping the ship in service.

Might sound crazy, But I reckon it's a good idea!

Jack.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 24, 2009, 17:38:53
I reckon that some businessmen could see potential in QE2 as a floating Casino..

You never know, they could moor her off Blackpool to try replace that massive Casino Bid! :lol:
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 24, 2009, 17:57:28
and just how many people would use such a casino? This is quite common in different parts of the world using smaller ships.

But the size of qe2! The amount of money needed just to fuel the thing (1-2 tonne per hour). Insurance, maintenance....

If there were money to be made that way- someone would already have done it.
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Firestar on December 24, 2009, 17:59:19
I protest against scrapping Knock Nevis, the world's largest ship. If she's gone what ship will hold the record of largest ship? QM2? She ain't larger than the Oasis. Titanic can't hold it caue she is in two. the Nevis must stay here and now!!!
Maybe you should send a letter to their owners and see what they have to say about it..
:doh:
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 24, 2009, 18:00:54
The chief executive would probably say to his secretary "Sharon? Another letter. Please shred it and use the paper for my childrens rabbit hutch"
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Firestar on December 24, 2009, 18:01:37
Assuming the letter got that far. ;D
Title: Re: Knock Nevis may be bound for the Ship Breakers
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 24, 2009, 18:05:00
If the postal service in the Netherlands is like the service here- who knows?