Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: Captain. Mitch on November 07, 2009, 12:27:36
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Hello!
I downloaded Pride of Rotterdam & Portoferraio Angel Super Pack! So i instal it and I went to play game...
I went to free roming and i saw that lights don't work on P&O but OK i sad it works just on missions right??
So i went to mission but i can't play any of this new missions because it says that the ships wich are included in this mission aren't included in my version of ship simulator 2008???????????
What do i need to have add-on? I now that i need to hav it for Angel but for P&O?????????????????
He is included in originial version so why i can't paly new missions?????????????????????????????????????
And are the new cool lights vorks just in mission????? ??? ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-\
Please help!!!!
Good by!
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When you install the add ones you most those to install the lights and to run missions you need New Horizon add one and some of them need Elbe and Furie you can bay them in the shipyard and Jumbo Javelin a free ship download from you profile here on the forum, Lights shod work if they are installed.
Even in a POR mission it can have a add ones ship as a AI or static ship and then you cant play it
TJK
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YES!
I instaled all the free add-on pack ALL! But i don't have add-on!
So how can i play that mission??? Lights stil dosen't work BUT I INSTALED THE PACK!!!!!!! :-\ :-\ :-\
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YES!
I instaled all the free add-on pack ALL! But i don't have add-on!
So how can i play that mission??? Lights stil dosen't work BUT I INSTALED THE PACK!!!!!!! :-\ :-\ :-\
well if you not have the New Horizon and or Elbe and Furie you can't play this missions, read the readme file that's provided in the mission pack, you find it in here
C:\Users\your username\Documents\ShipSim2008 UserData\Custom Missions\Readme
TJK
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OH :-\ :-\ :-\
But it's OK! I have alredy thinkig to buy Collector's Edition ( with New Horizonts ) and maybe Ebe...
So I hope then will work!!
But just one more questions!!
I instaled the Pride of Rotterdam & Portoferraio Angel Super Pack so can i now see the P&O light in free roming??
Cose i try BUT IT DIDN'T WORK :-\
Thanks on help! ;)
Good bye!
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OH :-\ :-\ :-\
But it's OK! I have alredy thinkig to buy Collector's Edition ( with New Horizonts ) and maybe Ebe...
So I hope then will work!!
But just one more questions!!
I instaled the Pride of Rotterdam & Portoferraio Angel Super Pack so can i now see the P&O light in free roming??
Cose i try BUT IT DIDN'T WORK :-\
Thanks on help! ;)
Good bye!
It should work at night on Free Roaming
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OH :-\ :-\ :-\
But it's OK! I have alredy thinkig to buy Collector's Edition ( with New Horizonts ) and maybe Ebe...
So I hope then will work!!
But just one more questions!!
I instaled the Pride of Rotterdam & Portoferraio Angel Super Pack so can i now see the P&O light in free roming??
Cose i try BUT IT DIDN'T WORK :-\
Thanks on help! ;)
Good bye!
I have sent you a pm
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Il upload an video i create with this problem so you'l se the problem well...
Good bye!
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I downloaded Pride of Rotterdam & Portoferraio Angel Super Pack,I instaled Super Pack,when i opened SS2008 Pride of Rotterdam had the same lights and controls >:( .
Can someone tell me WHY?? ??? .
Regards
ivanoile
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I downloaded Pride of Rotterdam & Portoferraio Angel Super Pack,I instaled Super Pack,when i opened SS2008 Pride of Rotterdam had the same lights and controls >:( .
Can someone tell me WHY?? ??? .
Regards
ivanoile
HI ivanoile
Welcome to the forum Ivan
try to run the installation again scroll down in the windows that tell you watt you are installing, mark the box for controllers and watt light you want to install, it's different types of light
TJK
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My problem was with the Pride. All the super packs work well including this - except the ship dynamics of POR.
I tried leaving a ferry berth like many times before. Astern port engine, Ahead Stbd and Stbd bow thruster to move sideways. At this point I found the astern power was very low. Finally out far enough and I tried to back out as far as the place I usually swing 180 degrees but it was painfully slow. I thought it might be aground but no - it was just not much power. I later used the pack installer to revert to old POR dynamics and keep all the other improvements.
That fixed it. I never found out what other 'improvements' to the dynamics were but it seems that at least one thing was worse. I am assuming that, like similar ferries the Pride should be able to do more than 1 to 2 knots astern.
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My problem was with the Pride. All the super packs work well including this - except the ship dynamics of POR.
I tried leaving a ferry berth like many times before. Astern port engine, Ahead Stbd and Stbd bow thruster to move sideways. At this point I found the astern power was very low. Finally out far enough and I tried to back out as far as the place I usually swing 180 degrees but it was painfully slow. I thought it might be aground but no - it was just not much power. I later used the pack installer to revert to old POR dynamics and keep all the other improvements.
That fixed it. I never found out what other 'improvements' to the dynamics were but it seems that at least one thing was worse. I am assuming that, like similar ferries the Pride should be able to do more than 1 to 2 knots astern.
Hi Steve,
A few people have made this comment. That the original Pride of Rotterdam dynamics were better.
From what I know, P&O were not very helpful in informing V-STEP on the Pride of Rotterdam's handling characteristics. So V-STEP virtually have to guess what she handles like. However, I understand your point completely, and I also believe the original dynamics were better. However, I myself am not a Pride of Rotterdam user, So I'm only really speaking on behalf of a few friends that are.
Kind Regards,
Jack.
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Hi Steve,
The superpack will restore the original Dyn if you run it again and tick the restore button
for p.o.r
Eric
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P&O never supplied the real ships dynamics to VSTEP, which didn't help. I took some pictures of the bridge poster and pilot card and sent them to Terry and Pjotr, so hopefully it will get more realistic in the future. I noticed with the new dynamics, when a stern rope is attached and the bow thruster switched on when leaving the P&O terminal, the ship lists quite badly :-\
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As with all things in simulators, the aspects of the vessel's performance that can be varied are limited and inter-reletaed. Changing one thing will affect many other things. No matter which set of characteristics get improved, somone will find that they don't like some other aspect which has also been changed.
As most of the time in PoR will be spent going forward, the forward-going characteristics seemed more important than going aftwards.
As Sadsid says, if you don't like it, the remedy is simple. Run the installer again and select the original characteristics. Easy!
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Do you get boats when you get higher class ???
I know that this is maybe stupid question but can someone please answer me ???
Regards
Ivan
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Do you get boats when you get higher class ???
I know that this is maybe stupid question but can someone please answer me ???
Regards
Ivan
No, that is just for showing fellow members how much you play the game and stuff, it has no effect in the game.
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When do you get new boats :C
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When do you get new boats :C
You can get a free new ship in you Profile Jumbo Javelin
and in the shipyard you can bay ships, Elbe, Furie and Ocean Star
TJK
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So only one ship will be new in game ??? (and free) :-\
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So only one ship will be new in game ??? (and free) :-\
Yes, but you can wait till Shipsim Extreme are been released in 2010, their will it come new things, ship, environments etc.
TJK
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The Pride of Rotterdam has been berthed in the Europort Harbour. How do I correctly unberth her? With the bowthruster I can loosen the bow from the berth. But while swinging her bow to starboard, the sterns turns to port and hits the berth, which causes damage. What must I do to prevent the stern from swinging to port while using the bow thruster to swing the bow to starboard. I know that I have to fiddle with her engines and her rudder.
The Pride of Rotterdam should move sideways from her berth, how do I do this with the engines and the rudder?
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When moving away have the rudders full to port and have a little bit of power from the engines, as soon as the stern starts to move away put the bow thruster on to starboard and remember to turn the engines off as soon as possible as you don't want to go too near the walls
Thats how I do it :)
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The Pride of Rotterdam has been berthed in the Europort Harbour. How do I correctly unberth her? With the bowthruster I can loosen the bow from the berth. But while swinging her bow to starboard, the sterns turns to port and hits the berth, which causes damage. What must I do to prevent the stern from swinging to port while using the bow thruster to swing the bow to starboard. I know that I have to fiddle with her engines and her rudder.
The Pride of Rotterdam should move sideways from her berth, how do I do this with the engines and the rudder?
Set the bowthruster to starboard (to move the bow away from the berth), set the portside engine astern and the starbordside engine ahead. You can also give hard port rudder. Be gentle with the main engines, you need to find a balance to make the Pride go sideways. The power setting of the main engines should be 15% or so, but that's trial and error!
With every twin screw vessel, you can set one engine ahead and the other engine astern to create a 'momentum'. In combination with the bowthruster you can turn her on the spot.
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@Ballast:
Set the bowthruster to starboard (to move the bow away from the berth), set the portside engine astern and the starbordside engine ahead. You can also give hard port rudder. Be gentle with the main engines, you need to find a balance to make the Pride go sideways. The power setting of the main engines should be 15% or so, but that's trial and error!
With every twin screw vessel, you can set one engine ahead and the other engine astern to create a 'momentum'. In combination with the bowthruster you can turn her on the spot.
It's a question of countersteering for compensating the swing caused by the bowthruster.
Ballast and Tractorman, how do I correctly berth the Pride of Rotterdam without colliding with the berth? I know that I havo to approach the berth very slowley, a few knots.
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Ballast and Tractorman, how do I correctly berth the Pride of Rotterdam without colliding with the berth?
Skill and practice ;) :P
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@MokMok
The momentum created with the main engines compensates the swing caused by the bowthruster.
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I must not set the bow thruster to full power, because then I can't compensate the swing enough by the engines. Or, otherwise, I have to give the engines full throttle.
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@Nathan|C:
How about stopping by the berth, then turning the ship starboard until it is parallel to the berth? Then you can simply sidestep into the berth.
And sidestepping into the berth is a question of balancing between the thrust of the main engines and the bow thruster.
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Is the 1.4 dynamics for the Pride of Rotterdam better than the one supplied with the PoR Superpack?
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But in reality a big ship like the PoR doesn't respond fast. It responds slowly by the big mass of such a ship.
I had berthed the PoR along an other berth on her starboard side. For unberthing her, I swinged my stern to port by setting her right astern and the left one ahead. A soon the stern of the PoR swinged to port, I turned on the bow thruster to port. On the berth by the bow you always have big aircushions as a buffer, which absorbs the swing of the bow to the berth when swinging the stern to port.
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It is more fun when you do the public announcements onboard the PoR. Announcements about safety on board, when the shops, restaurants are opened, the expected time of arrival, the weather during the trip. And when you are berthing, you announce that the public who have their cars parked onto the cardeck, must go to the cardeck.
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I have berthed the PoR at her berth in the Europoort harbour. I went straight into the harbour with her bow at the end of the berth. Then I anchored the vessel and I put the port engine full ahead and the starboard engine full astern. When a had alomost aligned the PoR to the berth, I released the anchors. By adjusting the power between the engines and the bow thruster I aligned her with the berth. You see that you need a lot of patience for berthing such a ship like the PoR.
I used the dynamics supplied with the PoR Superpack.
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I can use the rudder to sidestep the vessel. I am berthing on my starboardside. I put the bowthruster to starboard, I put the starboard engine ahead end the port engine astern to compensate the swing caused by the bowthruster. By means of the rudder I can swing to port or to starboard. You see that for a gentle sidestepping I have to carefully balance the engine powers between the thruster, the port engine and the starboard engine.
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@Ballast:
Set the bowthruster to starboard (to move the bow away from the berth), set the portside engine astern and the starbordside engine ahead. You can also give hard port rudder. Be gentle with the main engines, you need to find a balance to make the Pride go sideways. The power setting of the main engines should be 15% or so, but that's trial and error!
With every twin screw vessel, you can set one engine ahead and the other engine astern to create a 'momentum'. In combination with the bowthruster you can turn her on the spot.
Giving hard port rudder with my engines a little bit ahead to move away my stern from the berth and with the bowthruster moving to starboard, is suitable when leaving the Stena Line berth at Hook of Holland. When I am sufficiently free from the Stena Line berth, I can set the port engine full ahead and the starboard engine full astern for making a sharp turn to starboard in combination with the bowthruster to starboard. At the P&O Berth in the Beneluxhaven setting hard port rudder with the engines a little bit ahead isn't suitable for moving my stern away from the berth, because of the opposite quay with which I can easily collide. There I must set the starboard engine ahead and the port engine astern to move away my stern.
When I want tor berth the PoR at the Stena Line berth on my portside, I must use the bow thruster set to port. The port engine is set ahead and the starbord engine is set astern for compensating the swing caused by the bowthruster. By steering with my rudder I can move the ship sideways to the berth.
Berthing in general: must I moor the bow at firstat the berth and then the stern by means of the engines, or must I moor the stern at first and then the bow? What is better: mooring bow at first, or the stern at fisrt?
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It could be me MokMok, but i don't see any problems. Manoevering isn't rocket science ;)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2cs8obk.jpg)
Side stepping with bowthruster to starboard, portside engine astern and starboard engine ahead. Rudder hard port
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Portside engine ahead, starboard engine astern, rudder hard starboard and bowthruster to starboard
(http://i48.tinypic.com/3356t1i.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/rcowb8.jpg)
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Unfortunately the rope trick doesn't work on all computers. :(
As you can see, there are many ways to do this maneuver. The Master of the Pride of Rotterdam will probally do it slightly different everytime he arrives or departs, depending on the prevailing conditions.