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Title: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 27, 2009, 18:05:36: Hi guys, while looking at this picture of the Queen Victoria, I noticed a marking on her bow in the bottom right corner of the screen.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/IMG_4119.JPG
It looks like it represents the fact that she has a bulbous bow, is that what it means? I have never noticed it on any other ship before. If someone could answer that, please tell me. I also have ruled out the fact that it could mean bow thrusters, because the bow thruster markings are totally different. If anyone could tell me, that would be great.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Shipaddict on July 27, 2009, 18:20:49: Yeah looks like it :)
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Post by: Wave Music on July 27, 2009, 18:34:59: Yes, that's the bulbous bow's marking...
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Post by: Nathan|C on July 27, 2009, 18:35:14: Yup, you and SA are right, that's the symbol for the bulbous bow. A couple more examples:

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1116/bulb2.png) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/bulb2.png/)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9615/bulbq.png) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/bulbq.png/)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2844/bulb3.png) (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/bulb3.png/)

On the subject of symbols, I have a question about one. I've noticed this on a few larger ships, does anybody know what this one means?

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/494/queenmary.png) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/queenmary.png/)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: cptnchris on July 27, 2009, 18:51:16: i sure don't... but thats an interesting find! pretty cool :thumbs:
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Post by: Mad_Fred on July 27, 2009, 18:51:42: Just a guess here, but they happen to be right below the lifeboats.. maybe it's for them.. :-\
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Post by: cptnchris on July 27, 2009, 18:58:48: i tried to look it up on the internet... but nothing came up... ???
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Nathan|C on July 27, 2009, 19:00:54: It's a good guess Fred, but POH has 1 on either side (only 1 per side, unlike that QM2 picture above) and they are forward of the lifeboats :-\
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 27, 2009, 19:39:05: Maybe where tugs should go, but don't they normally say "Tug" with an arrow pointing down for that?
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Post by: cptnchris on July 27, 2009, 19:43:41: yea thats a good idea firestar. that might be what it is :thumbs:
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Post by: The Ferry Man on July 27, 2009, 20:09:08: I could be mistaken, but it looks like a stabiliser. Could it be an indicator for marking the position of the stabilisers?
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Post by: Wave Music on July 27, 2009, 20:09:45: As a place on hull where the tug can push there're signs like TUG , T or "TUG" with an arrow (like those you see on Latitude).
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Shipaddict on July 27, 2009, 20:16:31: Yep TFM those markings on QM2 are stabilisers.

I have a poster of her on my wall which is a side view of her, these two marking are directly above the stabilisers. :)
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Post by: saltydog on July 27, 2009, 20:22:16: How about these on the QM2..
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 27, 2009, 20:25:44: Obviously Cunard are preparing her for war...

Man the torpedoes...

Sorry, can't help you much, the circle looks a bit like a bow thruster or maybe a rotatable azimuth pod, and at a guess the torpedo represents the static azimuth pod?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 27, 2009, 20:31:12: I'm sure that means that Fred and his buddys were out having a little fun, or maybe, it might mean that they are azipods. What one seems more logical though? :evil:
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: saltydog on July 27, 2009, 20:32:44: I think the top symbol represents her aft revolving azipod..
The other is her fixed bow azipod..
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Wave Music on July 27, 2009, 20:37:53: Quote from: saltydog on July 27, 2009, 20:32:44
The other is her fixed bow azipod..

Does she have a bow azipod?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: saltydog on July 27, 2009, 20:40:40: Yep, a pair of fixed in front, a pair of revolving in rear.. ;)
No bowthrusters, I believe..
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Wave Music on July 27, 2009, 20:42:31: Quote from: saltydog on July 27, 2009, 20:40:40
Yep, a pair of fixed in front, a pair of revolving in rear.. ;)

I thought there were 3 thrusters at the bow... ???
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: saltydog on July 27, 2009, 20:51:02: Now I'm confused, just checked out Nathan's pictures, and there are clearly three symbols on the bow..
So I guess you're right WM..But the azipods are for propulsion of course
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 27, 2009, 20:54:14: If I may help...

QM2 has 3 bow thrusters,

and hasd four azipods,. The azipods are all located on the stern, in a square formation. Two will be revolving, the other two fixed
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Wave Music on July 27, 2009, 21:02:55: I thought they all were revolving. ??? Sorry, I'm not very educated in QM2, so I could sound a bit weird at times. :P

The fixed azipod can't be an azipod then.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 27, 2009, 21:15:11: Funny, the picture you show has them as all rotating azipods, and not any non rotating pods...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 27, 2009, 21:27:35: I'm not so convinced about that picture's accuracy.
A) I am positive that QM2 has sheer
B) I think that bulb is not shaped correctly
I know they are small things but if they are wrong, so could other things?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 27, 2009, 21:36:49: Okay I have looked at one of my pictures:

(http://i28.tinypic.com/25f6lvl.jpg)

The forward of the pods is the non rotating one.

The rear pair are the rotating azipods.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: saltydog on July 27, 2009, 21:52:45: That settles it.. :)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 27, 2009, 21:57:41: I have a question. On QM2's stern, towards the bottom, it looks like a flat stern, then it rises up to be curved. It looks really weird. Does anyone know why that is?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Wave Music on July 27, 2009, 22:01:11: Quote from: Wave Music on July 24, 2009, 00:30:37
I never thought that QM2 has such ugly stern:

(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/905399_800/Ship+Photo+QUEEN+MARY+2.JPG)

It's quite understandable that the stern is square near the water surface like on many modern ships as it's specially shaped to place the azipods there. But it's funny to think how they anyway made it round like on QM. :doh:
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 27, 2009, 22:02:29: Quote from: Wave Music on July 27, 2009, 22:01:11

Thanks, that answered my question. :)
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Post by: Nathan|C on July 28, 2009, 09:11:00: A picture I found of the QM2 azipods...the back two are the ones that spin 360.
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Post by: Kapn Jonah on July 28, 2009, 19:26:11: Quote from: Nathan|C on July 27, 2009, 18:35:14

On the subject of symbols, I have a question about one. I've noticed this on a few larger ships, does anybody know what this one means?

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/494/queenmary.png) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/queenmary.png/)

Hey Nathan, i have never seen that symbol on a vessel before, but given their position, i would believe that they are there to mark where the stabelizers are.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 29, 2009, 03:59:23: Maybe the start and end of her bilge keels?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Nathan|C on July 29, 2009, 09:11:56: The question about the stabilisers has already been answered :doh:

Quote from: The Ferry Man on July 27, 2009, 20:09:08
I could be mistaken, but it looks like a stabiliser. Could it be an indicator for marking the position of the stabilisers?

Quote from: Shipaddict on July 27, 2009, 20:16:31
Yep TFM those markings on QM2 are stabilisers.

I have a poster of her on my wall which is a side view of her, these two marking are directly above the stabilisers. :)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 29, 2009, 15:30:22: Then that settles it. :)
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Post by: Kapn Jonah on July 30, 2009, 19:44:44: Must have missed that sorry, i was looking through this topic in quite a hurry as my battery was about to die... :doh:
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 30, 2009, 19:46:42: Quote from: Nathan|C on July 28, 2009, 09:11:00
A picture I found of the QM2 azipods...the back two are the ones that spin 360.
Another question. About that pic Nathan, she has a very shallow Draft!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Wave Music on July 30, 2009, 20:05:50: Quote from: Firestar on July 30, 2009, 19:46:42
Another question. About that pic Nathan, she has a very shallow Draft!

Looks Ok to my mind.

(http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14937.0;attach=64484;image)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: Shipaddict on July 30, 2009, 20:08:18: She has a draft of about 10 meters, pretty suitable for her I think :)
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Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on July 30, 2009, 20:09:18: There doesn't need to be much below the water, with the likes of QM2, Shane. Since she's only carrying passengers. The likes of the Berge Stahl, an Iron Ore carrier, Bulk Carriers and the likes, need to have a lot under the waterline. As well as other vessels like Tugs etc.

Also, they would also want to keep their draught to a minimum, since they would want access to as many ports as possible, as well as being as agile as possible.

Jack.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria bow markings?
Post by: firestar12 on July 30, 2009, 20:13:59: I know this is not what we were talking about...but they expect to put the old SS Nomadic back in service by 2012. If they do, will she probably be working for QM2? I think it might because ever since WSL and Cunard merged, Cunard carries out the deed of keeping up some of Titanic's victim's grave's even though WSL used to do that. So would that mean that Nomadic would belong to Cunard as WSL's vessel?