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English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: A6XY78I on June 16, 2009, 19:07:58
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well in real its called the Eendracht but its hard to think VSTEP based the agile solution on this ship
because this ship isnt finised yet!!
sorry for my bad english
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Hi A6XY78I, and welcome!
Nope, A.Solution was not based on this one, although it is a similar vessel.
The "Deo Volente" was the basis for Agile Solution. If you do a forum search on that name, you'll find topics about this.
Regards,
Fred
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must be from the same shipping company then?? :-\
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Yes, I believe they are both owned by Hartman Seatrade B.V., Urk
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Official owner is Global Seatrade, Urk! Perhaps a part of the Hartman group due to legal affairs.
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Yeah, you are probably right.
Cheers
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http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://scheepswerven.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/img_0343a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://vloot.web-log.nl/vloot/hartman_seatrade_cv_urk/index.html&usg=__aNDATA5eFeKxtEr1NWlyD6sewi8=&h=533&w=800&sz=131&hl=nl&start=4&um=1&tbnid=JFIlZT_-HEgjgM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddeo%252Bvolente%26hl%3Dnl%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
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well in real its called the Eendracht but its hard to think VSTEP based the agile solution on this ship
because this ship isnt finised yet!!
sorry for my bad english
The MV Agile Solution is based on a similar ship but te Eendracht is not what the Agile Solution is based on. Agile Solution is based on a sister of Eendracht, and that sister is the MV Deo Volente like what Fred said.
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The MV Agile Solution is based on a similar ship but te Eendracht is not what the Agile Solution is based on. Agile Solution is based on a sister of Eendracht, and that sister is the MV Deo Volente like what Fred said.
Are you boosting your post count by repeating what has been already said here & in another boards about Agile Solution - Deo Volente?
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I was agreeing with Fred that the A.S. is not Eendracht. :thumbs:
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I do remember a picture of the real thing floating around this forum before though :-\
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This one? http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,3884.0.html
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Yah, This one to be precise...
(http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3884.0;attach=19245;image)
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I really like this one :thumbs:
(http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydeshipping/images/2009/01/244917.jpg)
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That looks great for the environment, :P Not that I really care when it comes to ships. :doh:
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If you like that shot, you'll enjoy these ones as well ;D
(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/910572_800/Ship+Photo+CLIPPER.JPG)
(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/887537_800/Ship+Photo+TRIMNES.JPG)
(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/107429_800/Ship+Photo+EMPIRE+STATE.jpg)
(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/356235_800/Ship+Photo+Atlantica+I.jpg)
...especially this Russian Navy's destroyer :doh:
(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/683006_800/Ship+Photo+Nastoychyvyi.jpg)
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I guess the ruskies don't like having pictures taken trying to hide the ship with all that smoke :D
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You do know the cause of that kind of an effect,
That is what happens to an engine's exhaust when it blows a head gasket. That results in oil freely flowing into the combustion chamber. The resulting cloud of smoke is a good waste of carbon and looks like that.
I've worked on a few engines over the years. ;)
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The real Agile Solution, the Deo Volente, got another sister!
(http://antimichelkodde.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/2010/04/27/diversen_147.jpg)
http://koopvaardij.web-log.nl/koopvaardij/2010/04/pacific-dawn.html
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Looks like they have redesigned the bulbous bow?
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(http://langssluizenenhavens.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/deo_volentecasco2.jpg)
I'm not sure, maybe it looks different because of the color. Sharp noticed though :thumbs:
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You do know the cause of that kind of an effect,
That is what happens to an engine's exhaust when it blows a head gasket. That results in oil freely flowing into the combustion chamber. The resulting cloud of smoke is a good waste of carbon and looks like that.
I've worked on a few engines over the years. ;)
Not even close. :P
This is due to turbo lag. When the navigating gentlemen (or gentleSpambot) on the bridge are a little bit too enthusiastic in increasing power the engine responds by pumping in more fuel, as the turbo charger is driven by the exhaust gas there is a short period of time when the turbo charger has not increased speed enough to supply enough air for complete combustion the partly burnt fuel is emitted as carbon (soot) instead of carbon dioxide which is normally emitted during proper combustion.
This is why most ships give a belch of black smoke when the engines are started.
The best solution is to fit auxiliary blowers, which are basically electrically driven fans which blow extra air into the engine as the power is increased.
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Thanks for explaining Chief :thumbs: White smoke indicates water in the cilinder?
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Almost a year old topic you guys.
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It is still on topic Matt. Some topics, like this one, don’t go out of date.
Try to apply a little common sense before you chastise people.
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The hull number of this Sovremenny class destroyer cannot be read, nor is her name very clear (if I was anyway able to read Cyrillic).
Luc
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That's the flagship of Russian Baltic Fleet Nastoychivyy, # 610, class "Sovremennyy", project 956.
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Thanks WM, she is also very impressive. I wondered about the smoke density and quantity that reminded me of similar ships, the quantity emitted being more or less proportional to the size of the boilers. Indeed, cleaning 4 each 25,000 hp cannot be overseen.
Luc
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White smoke indicates water in the cilinder?
Usually yes, this can either be from a leaking cylinder head, a cracked cylinder liner or due to the combustion air being over cooled in a hot humid climate.
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There are more pictures shown of the newbuilding Pacific Dawnp at the Tugspotters website :)
http://www.tugspotters.com/dev/index.php?itemid=26383#more
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Im gonna guess 2 things...
1) shes not fully completed :doh:
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2) Kiel Canal? ::)
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1) Yes, that's correct. Most Dutch company are building the hull and superstructure in a foreign country, while the final fitting is done in the Netherlands to save cost :)
2) Yes, as stated in the text.. ;D
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maybe i need to brush up on my dutch then ::)
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Or your English... ;D
TAUCHER O. WULF 5 yesterday seen at Kiel Canal towing the new PACIFIC DAWN to Holland. Stern tug was TAUCHER O. WULF 8.
Just pulling your leg.. :)
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There's lots of ships like the agile solution it probably isn't based on a specific one.
I know i live on a sailing boat.
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There are only 3 vessels based on this type. The Deo Volente, the Eendracht and now the Pacific Dawn. This type is designed and built in own management by Hartman, the owner of the Deo Volente
Ofcourse it's not unique a vessel of this size with cranes who can lift 240 metric tonnes in pair, but this type is specially designed for the lifting capacity, the service speed with a relative low fuel consumption. This type has a service speed of 18 knots with a fuel consumption of 14 ton per day.
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There's lots of ships like the agile solution it probably isn't based on a specific one.
I know i live on a sailing boat.
It is actually. But only Deo Volante, I think the other two are slightly different.
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It is actually. But only Deo Volante, I think the other two are slightly different.
Perhaps upgraded or modified. No matter how hard you try to design the perfect ship, once you take her in to service, you'll always find things that could have been better :)
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Like the inclusion of an engine. Or maybe that hole in the hull so you can look at fish was a bad idea. ::)
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This type has a service speed of 18 knots with a fuel consumption of 14 ton per day.
Wow, that's good.
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Wow, that's good.
I can not confirm it, but the words are out that the Deo Volente is the fastest cargo ship under 3000 GT in the world..
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It is actually. But only Deo Volante, I think the other two are slightly different.
For who may be interested,
The Eendracht and the Pacific Dawn are both fitted with a stern thruster to increase the maneuverability.
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Where on her they store that pontoon ("flipper") when it's not in use?
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Maybe they carry it in the hold since I haven't seen it yet on a deck on many photos?
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/2mfdpaf.jpg)
I think they store it here, between the hold and the forecastle. Looks the best spot, the forward crane can still reach it.
It belongs to the ship. They attatch it to the side during heavy lifts. The flipper gives the vessel a much better stability because of the increase of the waterline surface. I can bang the theoretical explanation on here, but you'll be clueless without understand the ship's stability :doh:
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Like a piece of paper is less likely to capsize than a log?
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Like a piece of paper is less likely to capsize than a log?
Like a canoe with an outrigger is less likely to capsize than a canoe.