Ship Simulator
English forum => Vessel Design Group general => Development corner => Active Projects => Topic started by: Mad_Fred on March 20, 2009, 16:26:42
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Hey everyone,
I'm trying to make this most recent vessel according to VSTEP guidelines. So far so good, but a long way to go. And I probably have to do some studying to cover all the angles before it would be suitable for the game, but worth a shot anyway.
(Anyone that has good photos of a wheelhouse of such a ferry, or just pictures of these kind of ferries, I could use such photos. All help is welcome and much appreciated!)
Here's a couple early WIP screenshots (a bit of distortion from converting to jpg I fear..);
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WOW Fred, amazing work, keep it up!
That looks pretty much identical to the Maassluis - Rozenburg ferry I travelled on in Rotterdam ;D Is that just a coincidence?
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Hehe.. No that is not a coincidence, Nathan.. Well spotted. :thumbs:
It's a bit different though, the scale for one, and it's much more symmetrical, which the real one is not.
And thanks very much for the compliments, mate!! :lol:
Fred
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Very nice fred, how long have you been working on that ferry?
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Fred,
I found this image of the downstairs corridoor on one of the sides of the ferry. Hope it helps :thumbs: ;D
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4624780
Nathan
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Very nice fred, how long have you been working on that ferry?
Thanks very much!
I dunno, about 15 or 20 hours I think, so far. Mind you, the cars, are all standard Google Sketchup ones, so that didn't take any time at all.. But I do intend to make my own ones, these are kinda poly heavy for just eyecandy on a vessel.
And Nathan, yep that is a nice shot, it will help!!
Thanks a lot, mate!
Fred.
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Impressive, Fred, impressive!
I'm searching my collection of ship books and magazines, but interior shots of ferries seem quite rare.
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Ta very much, Terry!!
Yes, I noticed the same thing.. The regular 'google search' is coming up with very little to work with..
Thanks for looking through your collection for me, I appreciate that!! :thumbs:
Fred
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:o
Stunning Fred, stunning :)
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Ahoy Fred,
Over a period of time I noticed those fine things you're building. Pittyfull enough they aren't usable in Ship Simulator 08. And I'm hooked to this simulation. I once tried VS, but that's not my cup'o'tea.
Maybe in a future version of SS (16?) it will be possible to use your vessels too.
In the meantime, keep up the good work.
Regards
Aad
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Hi Gentlemen, thanks very much!!!
Actually Aad, if I just manage to build my vessels according to VSTEP's guidelines (the others so far are too high on poly count though), they might well be usable.
But there's of course much more to it than just a model. I have to study a few things to be able to cover some of the points on the 'agenda'.
But in theory, this one could be used, so far. I'm just not sure if I can pull off the other things on the list. But I'm in no hurry, and there's plenty of tutorials out there on lots of these subjects.
Fingers crossed. ;D
Cheers!
Regards,
Fred
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They can't be as high poly as titanic. ;D
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Nice work Fred! Yeah, you are right about the cars. But can't VSTEP provide you with that if it is gonna be added to the game maybe?
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Nice work Fred! Yeah, you are right about the cars. But can't VSTEP provide you with that if it is gonna be added to the game maybe?
Probably could, just take the cars off the Red Eagle and put them on there, or you could just make your own low-poly cars.
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Probably could, just take the cars off the Red Eagle and put them on there, or you could just make your own low-poly cars.
Using bump mapping, Fred could probably make a car look like a high poly one, but using as little as like 100 polys. Maybe you should try that Fred!
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Using bump mapping, Fred could probably make a car look like a high poly one, but using as little as like 100 polys. Maybe you should try that Fred!
Heck, you could just make a box and it would look like some of the new cars. :)
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Heck, you could just make a box and it would look like some of the new cars. :)
Not quite, you have to add SOME detail.
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ah looks great fred hope it makes it into the game ;)
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Fred, when you get that vessel past the Vstep QC checks, it will be my personal honour to produce the vessel dynamics! And I'll make you the best ship's horn in existence. ;D
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Fred
Do you know who built the real ferry? Their website might have more interior photos?
Very nice anyway
Mike
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Fred makes up most of his creations.
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Not bad, Fred, not bad... What programm are you using?
Does she'll be with azipods or VSP's or just props?
I would guess sketchup as that is what he usually uses.
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He uses sketchup, you can easily convert a SU model to 3Dmax DIAMANT, since his SU models are amazing. ;)
No one said this was going in the game.
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VSTEP doesn't support SU models
Models that are of sufficient quality are fine for VSTEP. How do you know that the maker of the Ocean Star didn't just make it in SU and the export it to 3DS max? Then what difference would it make to Vstep? It is just the tons and tons of members that have provided VSTEP boxes with funnels that lead VSTEP to believe that SU Models would never be SS Worthy. But all of Fred's models are good enough to be added! It doesn't really matter what program. Maybe Jumbo Javelin was made in sketchup! Who knows?! (Of course, that was just an example, maybe the entire fleet was made in SU! (I know it really wasn't but come on Diamant, it makes perfect sense!)
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It must be a VERY good crane, witch meets all the requirements.
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F!, I must finish my cranes before the SS10 arrives!
Anyways, here are the guidelines. (We should get back on topic)
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Cheers y'all!
Fred, when you get that vessel past the Vstep QC checks, it will be my personal honour to produce the vessel dynamics! And I'll make you the best ship's horn in existence. ;D
Wouldn't have it another way, mate! :thumbs:
Mike;
Nope I don't. I did only somewhat base it on the real thing though. But it could help. I'll look into it.
Diamant;
Thanks! And I think VSP's.
AS Firestar and Austin said, I use Sketchup, and I use carrara 5.0 for the renders.
Btw Austin, I am trying to get this fit for the game, but it's a long shot, since I am pretty good with sketchup, I dare say by now, but all the other stuff that comes with it, might be tricky.. I've never done any of the rest, I can only make models in sketchup, that's all.. :)
Fred
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Yep, depending on the propulsion system, the underside will have to be reshaped. It's just a simple barge shape for now. But I'll get to that at on point or another.. :thumbs:
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What, you finally realize that you are good at sketchup?
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:P
Well.. I guess so.. ::)
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She's looking Fantastic Fred! ;D Would certainly be a nice addition to the game... :thumbs: ;D
Looking forward to the updates!
Jack :)
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Fred
Do you know who built the real ferry? Their website might have more interior photos?
Very nice anyway
Mike
Apparently there was a chap named Kurt who did some of the welding, if that's any help :lol:
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Fred, these models are very Iug's!
Amazing!
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Thanks very much guys!!! ;D
(at least.. Iug's.. that's good, right?)
Stuart, is that the guy that lives down the road from my Aunt Mary, on number 12? The big bearded guy with the peg leg? :P
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Iug is my short way of saying
Incredible work of an Ultimate Genius
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The question now is...
Fred are you card carrying member of the IUG Society, if so what's your Registration Number... ;D
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Hehe... well thanks very much Gloat, but that's way too much credit..
And as such, nope, I am not a card carrying member.. :P
:lol:
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Hehe... well thanks very much Gloat, but that's way too much credit..
And as such, nope, I am not a card carrying member.. :P
:lol:
Unregistered?! He must be executed at once! ;D
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Off-Topic?! He must be executed at once! ;D
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Annoying?!? He must be executed at once! :lol:
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Everyone? They must be executed at once!
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I'm on it!
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Hehehe..
Thanks for not invading this topic to tell me that.. oh wait.. :P
Well, I don't mind a wee bit of chatter, chaps. But if it gets too much, you'll notice.. :lol:
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Well, I don't mind a wee bit of chatter, chaps. But if it gets too much, you'll notice..
Yeah, Fred will get his drum sticks, walk up to the invaders like Austin and then he will....he'll....well it is too horrible for words what he'll do :P
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What if fred played bongos, what bongo sticks? :)
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Nah, then I'd use the actual bongos..
That'll hurt a lot more though, I reckon..
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Allright, here's another little update..
Didn't have much time, but a few new bits on her.. a nice group shot..
(right click and open for full detail)
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|Now that is looking good, Fred.
Still searching for Ferry control images and drawing a blank, astonishingly... Second-hand bookshops this weekend...
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Just amazing Fred! I hope this gets into the game one day!
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Since when did you get that good Fred?? Surely you must be cheating in some way!?? You simply MUST be! ??? :o
I'm starting to think I'm rubbish compared to most on here :-\ 8)
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If I posted a model, you'd know you were good! I'm rubbish at such things.
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If I posted a model, you'd know you were good! I'm rubbish at such things.
Without diversing too much have you actually tried to model something properly?? As you know modelling can take a rather long time - well for me anyway... ::)
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Hi guys,
Thanks very, very much... I appreciate that a lot!
Actually CS, I ám cheating.. I'm using Sketchup.. ::) :lol:
Terry, yes oddly enough there seem to be hardly any good photo's floating around of these type of vessels.. Thanks for the continued effort!!
Fred.
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Without diversing too much have you actually tried to model something properly?? As you know modelling can take a rather long time - well for me anyway... ::)
There are something at which I am superb. This is not one of them.
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Allright, here's another little update..
Didn't have much time, but a few new bits on her.. a nice group shot..
(right click and open for full detail)
Fred these are so good its ridiculous! ;D honestly, Vstep standard if not above! amazing... :o
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Many thanks RMSGB!! I appreciate that very much!! :thumbs: :thumbs:
Not yet vstep standard though, it requires a lot more work to get it to meet all the requirements. 'Luckily' Carrara does a great job at 'fooling' everyone by making it look a lot better on the renders than it might actually be ingame.. ::)
;D
Fred.
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Hope this helps with your ferry Design. ;D
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Look what i saw ;D
(http://i40.tinypic.com/30ll2kn.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2dr7ztl.jpg)
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;D :2thumbs:
Thank you for sharing that!! :thumbs:
Fred.
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They are copying you Fred!
:evil:
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We have some ferry's that look just like those over here. Maybe I can find you a pic...
(http://ferries.com/gfx/vermont_800.jpg)