Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Cat320DL on January 12, 2009, 20:36:18
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The MV John Hamilton Gray was an icebreaking railway, vehicle, and passenger ferry which operated across the Abegweit Passage of Northumberland Strait, connecting Port Borden to Cape Tormentine between 1968-1997.
Career
Commissioned: 1968
Modernized: 1980 upper vehicle deck rear loading added, side loading hatch closed in, top-side wood outer decks removed; 1997 passenger deck overhauled into a casino
Region: Atlantic Canada (1968-1997); Gulf of Mexico (1998-2004)
Home Port: Borden, PEI (1968-1997); Palm Beach, FL (1998-2001); Port Aransas, TX (2001-2004)
Decommissioned: Marine Atlantic (1997); Contessa International (2004)
Fate: scrapped 2004
General characteristics
Displacement: 10,678 gross tons
Length: 122.1 metres
Beam: 21.09 metres
Draught: 6.19 metres
Propulsion: 8 main engines Fairbanks Morse 12 cylinder opposing piston 12-38D8-1/8
Power: 11,768 KW
Speed: 18 knots
Range:
Ice Class: 3 East Coast 100 A1
Passengers: 516
Complement:
Capacity: 165 car equivalents and 18 tractor trailers or 16 railway cars;
Named After: John Hamilton Gray, a Prince Edward Island Father of Confederation.
Career
Commissioned: 1981
Modernized: 1990 cheat line removed,1991 stern thruster added
Region:
Atlantic Canada
The new vessel was to be named MV Straitway and unlike the MV Abegweit, was designed as a RO-RO vessel which permitted faster loading and unloading. She was also custom designed for the protected waters of Northumberland Strait. This permitted German & Milne to depart from traditional vessel design by eliminating the need for a conventional hull and bow.
Home Port:
Borden,PEI-Cape Tormentine,NB
Decommissioned: 1999, 2004
Fate: scrapped 2004
General characteristics
Displacement: 12,000 tons
Length: 401 feet
Beam:
70 feet
Draught:
20 feet
Propulsion:
6 main engines Ruston V16 diesel driven gear boxes
Speed:
18 knots
Range:
Ice Class:
1A Super Baltic
Complement:
Crew 34
Aircraft: None
Named After: QSMV Abegweit, retired in 1982.
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Those ship are realy ugly! :-\ But it is my view :D
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ugly but they did their job ;D
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OMG the front fell of!
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yea lol looks like the bow was chopped off the front one :D
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Looks like they took the bad looks of SS Norway and made it even worse! ;D
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bah! the SS norway was a beautiful ship! it was soo sad to see her scrapped, wonderful ship she was. The last regularly cruising steam ship left.
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bah! the SS norway was a beautiful ship! it was soo sad to see her scrapped, wonderful ship she was. The last regularly cruising steam ship left.
Before her second refit, I agree MC,
Looks like they took the bad looks of SS Norway and made it even worse! ;D
After her second refit, I agree MrFlappy.
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Nice to see some Canadian ships. ;D
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just noticed something interesting, the second no-bow ugly peice of junk has got what looks like 2 bridges, Or at least bridge wings at each end, anyone know why?
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It's was not unusual for ships in the past to have stern bridge wings too.
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I see, I sopse on a really long ship it makes sense, but not on a small ferry like that ;D
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Depends if it's one of those that doesn't have time/space for turnarounds, and has to go backwards one way and forwards the other.
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bah! the SS norway was a beautiful ship! it was soo sad to see her scrapped, wonderful ship she was. The last regularly cruising steam ship left.
After the extra decks were added she looked bad, but before she was beutiful.
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yes i agree mrflappy, ss norway went from beauty to ugly duckling :P
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Sorry to be off topic, but replying to what you said there, I think the "SS Norway" was always better as the SS France, when she was original, without those extra decks. (But that is my opinion :))
(http://www.ssmaritime.com/france-001.jpg)
(http://www.ssmaritime.com/France-0-Jan-1962.jpg)
Beautiful or what eh? :o
Remember a while back guys, a guy called "DVOMarineDesign" made an account on the forum, and asked, would we like his ships in the game. One of his ships was the SS France, it is an amazing model, if you haven't seen it:
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/france3d/images/France-av-3.jpg)
His website: http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/
Jack.
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yes well the france was always the most beautiful. and i remember Dominic Vacarro very well and am a big fan of his models.
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Sorry to be off topic, but replying to what you said there, I think the "SS Norway" was always better as the SS France, when she was original, without those extra decks. (But that is my opinion :))
(http://www.ssmaritime.com/france-001.jpg)
(http://www.ssmaritime.com/France-0-Jan-1962.jpg)
Beautiful or what eh? :o
Remember a while back guys, a guy called "DVOMarineDesign" made an account on the forum, and asked, would we like his ships in the game. One of his ships was the SS France, it is an amazing model, if you haven't seen it:
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/france3d/images/France-av-3.jpg)
His website: http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/
Jack.
The poor France...being scrapped :(
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yea i believe the norway's scrapping is finished :-\
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yea i believe the norway's scrapping is finished :-\
I guess whats got to be done, has got to be done. Its just a shame that she couldn't have been used as some sort of "Land mark", maybe in a special mooring place for her. I find it really sad that most ships end their lives being scrapped, but I guess, if your in business, you can't be fussing around the fact that SS France was a beautiful ship etc. whoever owned her was there to make money :-\
Wouldn't it be a good idea if a massive museum was set up were all vessels that need to be conserved would be placed/moored?, with pontoons allowing you to look at them? I suppose t couldn't be practical though :-\
Jack.
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yea it would be nice, it was Norwegian Cruise Lines that own the SS France as the SS Norway, she had a boiler explosion. A few people were killed and many injured, so the company decided to scrap the liner because of her age and all the work it would take to fix up her boilers. here the explosion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6194Dce804 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6194Dce804)