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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: RMS Canada on October 01, 2008, 16:52:24
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I've heard some terrible news :(
The S.S. United States, fastest liner afloat and one of the last ocean liners today...
...is expected to be...SCRAPPED in 2010!
NCL can't do this. >:( They're making a big mistake. The Big "U" should not be scrapped as she's the fastest liner afloat.
A friend of mine is also upset about this...
Don't let the S.S. United States be scrapped, insted she should be saved and transformed into a museum like the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA.
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I've heard some terrible news :(
The S.S. United States, fastest liner afloat and one of the last ocean liners today...
...is expected to be...SCRAPED in 2010!
… to remove barnacles.
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Routine maintenance, I suppose. What is so dreadful about that?
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How fast did/does she go?
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Think she went around 40 knots, correct me if i'm wrong though ;)
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I think she did about 38 knots in trials, and did about 35 knots in service.
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I've heard some terrible news :(
The S.S. United States, fastest liner afloat and one of the last ocean liners today...
...is expected to be...SCRAPED in 2010!
NCL can't do this. >:( They're making a big mistake. The Big "U" should not be scrapped as she's the fastest liner afloat.
A friend of mine is also upset about this...
Don't let the S.S. United States be scrapped, insted she should be saved and transformed into a museum like the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA.
i heard they are going to what do they say remodel her in 2010 but thats what i heard and if u go to youtube they have a documentary they are making about saving the big u
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so whats true, is she going to be remodled/restored? or scraped?
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SAVE THE S.S. U.S.!!!!!!
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SAVE THE S.S. U.S.!!!!!!
there just scrapping the barnacles of the damn ship breathe people breathe
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sorry its just i can't stop thinking of rms olympic. but at least she is better than the ss american wrecked at the canary's.
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there just scrapping the barnacles of the damn ship breathe people breathe
There would be less confusion if you paid attention to spelling:
Scrapped—with two Ps— means sent to the breakers.
Scraped—with one P— means dry docked for barnacle removal.
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There would be less confusion if you paid attention to spelling:
Scrapped—with two Ps— means sent to the breakers.
Scraped—with one P— means dry docked for barnacle removal.
mmm ok thx
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How fast did/does she go?
35 knots. She's the fastest ocean liner in the world.
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there just scrapping the barnacles of the damn ship breathe people breathe
No, that's not what I heard. NCL is going to scrap the United States in 2010.
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Routine maintenance, I suppose. What is so dreadful about that?
A friend of mine told me that the S.S. United States, to my friend who calls her the Big "U", is going to be scrapped in 2010. Scrapped as in being destroyed forever.
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There would be less confusion if you paid attention to spelling:
Scrapped—with two Ps— means sent to the breakers.
Scraped—with one P— means dry docked for barnacle removal.
Oh, that's right. Must have been in a hurry with this post.
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TheTitanicExpert,
Please don't TRIPLE post. Posting multiple times in a row is not acceptable and is a breach of the forum rules. Please use the "Modify" button to add content to your post.
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And about the boat, we can't do anything about it, it is NCL's choice and they can do what ever they want with the vessel they own.
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The two unique features of William Gibb’s masterpiece are her hull design and her power plant—adapted from the plant for Iowa class battleships. Neither of those features would be demonstrated if she were to become a floating restaurant. Tied up, she is just another aging relic of a bygone day.
Since 1969, her few Atlantic crossings have been under tow.
By 1984, she had been gutted of furniture and fixtures. She is no longer an example of the opulence of that era, if she ever was. She had no wood in either her construction or furnishings.
There are already far better examples of ocean liners, the Queen Mary for one.
As for putting her back in service; too many merchant mariners have been killed by hulls well past their prime.
The Malaysian based owners of Norwegian Cruise Line had plans to refit her for the Hawaiian cruise business. Her only real asset for that job was, being US built, she qualified under the Jones Act.
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35 knots. She's the fastest ocean liner in the world.
She is not the holder of the record for the eastbound crossing. In 1990, Hoverspeed Great Britain—an oceangoing catamaran—took the Blue Riband at an average speed of 36.6 knots.
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She is not the holder of the record for the eastbound crossing. In 1990, Hoverspeed Great Britain—an oceangoing catamaran—took the Blue Riband at an average speed of 36.6 knots.
OK here comes the real facts...
Her crossing over the atlantic in 1952 took 3 days 10 hours 42 mins with an avarage speed of 35.59 KN wich made her the fastest liner crossing the atlantic at that time.
and some ship facts...
* Her 241,000 horsepower engines allowed her to reach a top speed of 43 knots (79.12 km/hr or 49.48 mph) At 990'6" in length, she is the largest passenger vessel ever built in the United States.
* Materials in construction included over 2,000 tons of aluminum; she has a power-to-weight ratio that has never been equaled.
* She could steam 10,000 miles without stopping for fuel or supplies.
* The ship was totally fireproof, being constructed completely of non-flammable materials (publicists were so fond of pointing out that the only wood on board were in her pianos and the chopping blocks).
It is now known that the SS United States achieved speeds exceeding 44
knots, or 50mph (footnote by the SS United States Foundation).
I hope someof you can use this info..
regards
Nicolai
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she's faster than titanic and lusitania put together!!! ;D ;D ;D
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OK here comes the real facts...
It is now known that the SS United States achieved speeds exceeding 44
knots, or 50mph (footnote by the SS United States Foundation).
I found the power curves for SS United States here:
http://www.ss-united-states.net/SSUnitedStatesWebpageFiles/WebPages/PagesHP.htm (http://www.ss-united-states.net/SSUnitedStatesWebpageFiles/WebPages/PagesHP.htm)
As the notes point out, it would take considerably more power to reach even 40 knots, let alone 44.
44 Knots is about 1.25 times her service maximum of ~35 knots. It would require at least 1.58 times the power to reach that speed. It is unlikely that a liner designed for 35 knots would have a 60% power reserve. The extra boiler capacity alone would have been unjustified from an economic standpoint.
The US Navy, who paid the majority of her cost, and supplied the propulsion technology, maintains that her maximum speed in trials did not exceed 38.5 knots. The 44-knot speed was an exaggeration that gained credence through parroting, as many of the Titanic myths did.
The SS United States Foundation is a group of dreamers trying to raise money for a project with as little chance of success as the plethora of plans to launch another Titanic. They are hardly a reliable source of information. A site that, in a footnote, cites itself as an authority is humorous. If you look at their latest news page, it is dated January 11, 2007.
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Don't forget that with a non-planing hull, there is an absolute maximum speed for any vessel. It is 1.34 times the square root of the length of the vessel along the water line (knots and feet).
No matter how much more power you apply, the vessel will not go any faster. She will just make bigger bow and stern waves with the added energy.
So, if you know LWL, you know the top speed that is possible. Of course without a powerful enough engine she won't reach that speed anyway.
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TheTitanicExpert,
Please don't TRIPLE post. Posting multiple times in a row is not acceptable and is a breach of the forum rules. Please use the "Modify" button to add content to your post.
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And about the boat, we can't do anything about it, it is NCL's choice and they can do what ever they want with the vessel they own.
Sorry, but this is how I do so on Youtube when people post comments on any of my videos.
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She is not the holder of the record for the eastbound crossing. In 1990, Hoverspeed Great Britain—an oceangoing catamaran—took the Blue Riband at an average speed of 36.6 knots.
I am aware of that. This post is meant for the fastest ocean liner in the world, not a catamaran. The S.S. United States beat the Queen Mary's record, and since then, no other ocean liner has got over 35 knots.
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That’s because there are no more ocean liners.
The sooner SS United States is towed to Alang the better. Perhaps this silly subject can be put to rest.
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Isn't Queen Mary 2 an Ocean Liner
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That’s because there are no more ocean liners.
The sooner SS United States is towed to Alang the better. Perhaps this silly subject can be put to rest.
I can't believe you've saying that!
First of all, I care a lot about ocean liners. I mean I'm not only interested in the Titanic. The jet brought about her end (curse you jets!).
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Isn't Queen Mary 2 an Ocean Liner
Mmmm, I don't think so.
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QM2 is a cruise ship.
The day of the transatlantic liner is long past. Arguably the best example of that genre is preserved in the Queen Mary. We don’t need another example that was inferior in all respects except top speed.
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QM2 is a cruise ship.
The day of the transatlantic liner is long past. Arguably the best example of that genre is preserved in the Queen Mary. We don’t need another example that was inferior in all respects except top speed.
That's what I hate about...