Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: Thruster on September 25, 2008, 19:41:42
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Hi everyone! I just purchased the New Horizons add-on, and I noticed that some ships, like Ocean Star and Agile Solution are way smaller on the map and GPS than they are in real. This is really weird, because the large cruiseship has about the size of the Agile... :P Can anyone help?
Regards,
Thruster
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This isn't a Technical Support issue.
I've moved it to General Discussions, where you can chat with others about it. ;)
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Are you sure? Have you ever heard of zooming on the map?
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Try zooming ;) Or if it is to small, reinstall possable.
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Ofcourse I tried zooming ;), but when I was right behind the ocean star in the game, on the GPS the silhouette (sorry if spelled wrong) was way further forward... Does anyone else have this problem?
Regards,
Thruster
P.S. Thanks Terry! Let's say you're never too old to learn :D!
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After you install NH you should install the 1.4.2 update. See Terry’s flowchart.
Ships are not shown in their exact relative sizes on the chart. This is normal.
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Can you send us a picture of your map and GPS? You can make the picture with the key: "DRUCK/S-ABF". Than it is easier to understand you. ;)
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I get this as well. When in the ocean star and sailing past something like the agile solution, on the chart the agile solution is about the same size.
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The problem you describe is just one of those little anomalies that happen now and again, don't worry about it, it is a little confusing until one realises what is what.
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Hi Thruster,
This is pefrecty normal, last night on the Pride of Hull bridge, the sonar was displaying the Stena Transfer as half on land ;)
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Sonar???? Didn't know they used sonar on merchant ships.
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Nathan probably got a copy of our submarine beta.
The silhouettes used on the chart are not all at the same scale. POR is larger than OS. I don’t know if this is considered important enough to fix. I’ve not noticed it on the bug tracker. As long as you don’t rely on the chart instead of looking outside, it should not be a problem.
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Angus and Marty: the sonar is to the left of the new altimeter on the new hud in the latest beta for PoR.
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You're right Terry.
P&O asked for a Variometer too, because sometimes when docking the vertical speed was higher than -500ft/min, which was much incomfortable for the passengers ;)
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It's not a very big problem, at least as, as mvsmith said, you look outside the ship and don't rely on the GPS ;)! I just wondered what it was.
And Nathan, have you got you're pictures? Looking forward to them... :D
Thanks for your replies, gentlemen!
Regards,
Truster
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Sonar/Radar....you know what i mean....the green screen where radio singals are sent out and bounce off objects, trnasmitting an image onto the screen - here's an image i took Thursday night on the bridge:
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4044/1001420vx6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
The bridge crew relied heavily on these screens as it was pitch black outside.
I'm posting thee rest of the pics in a topic now ;)
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I can hardly see anything on that screen as well ;)!
Thruster
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I'm going to leave the other pics until i return home - they're not great quality on tis computer.
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I can hardly see anything on that screen as well ;)!
Thruster
I know that people often think that radar screens provide a map-like image, but they don't, as the above shows you (that's quite a good one actually).
If you think the above display is difficult to work out, you should see them when it rains!
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Nice pics Nathan. Was that at Beneluxhaven? It looks kinda like it.
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After studying that image for about 30 minutes :-\ I can now see the different things in there. but I think that because people should be able to use it (especially when it rains ;)) for work without studying it for a long, long time, they probably would be in need of some kind of school in just "learning how to read radar images" ;D , or they just should be very practiced, ofcourse...
Anyway, lads and landlubbers on this forum: have respect for the people that can read those images :D!
Regards,
Thruster
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(that's quite a good one actually).
Why thank you ;D For some reason the picture quality is quite poor when the pictures are loaded on this computer, so any images i post will be replaced when i get home by a better quality one.
Nice pics Nathan. Was that at Beneluxhaven? It looks kinda like it.
Yes, that was when she was docked. They have that same screen all over the bridge, and this one is on the center console:
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2941/1001425we0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
I'm sure most people here would find it easier using this one for navigating.
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... they probably would be in need of some kind of school in just "learning how to read radar images" ;D , or they just should be very practiced, ofcourse...
Anyway, lads and landlubbers on this forum: have respect for the people that can read those images :D!
That’s the reason for the “also…radar observer†endorsement on the ticket.
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Marty,
A little ancient, but here is one such Radar ticket.
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Hi Angus,
After watching the 2nd mate make a RADAR approach to Los Angeles, we added a post-it endorsement to his ticket: also…pilot; Hyperion sewer discharge channel.
Regards,
Marty
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Hi Angus.
Hopefuly I'm just paranoid, but as that had your signature and date of birth on it, I made it so that it doesn't any more. Too many opportunities for identity theft....
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Yes, Terry, you are paranoid. However, as I know the many people who are out to get you, I feel you are justified.
For myself, I take comfort in the old saying: “Who steals my identity steals trash.â€
Regards,
Marty
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Thanks Terry,
Perhaps though, as Marty says, It ain't worth nicking. I never thought of that one in all honesty.
Regards from,
An*us :o
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Well, it pays to be careful.
Walls have ears. Don't buy their sausages.
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Terry,
I know you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, but sausages ::). By the way I don't think I would like to be a passenger on POR if the master takes her off that berth in Beneluxhaven using the radar because it's dark outside. Putting it mildly, no way. :o
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Terry,
I know you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, but sausages ::). By the way I don't think I would like to be a passenger on POR if the master takes her off that berth in Beneluxhaven using the radar because it's dark outside. Putting it mildly, no way. :o
If you're referring to my post, i never said they used the screens when leaving the berth...
I do get quite upset when people make fun of things i post that are incorrect in some way. Please everyone realise that not everyone knows everything about ships and the way they are operated..........it does make me feel like a complete idiot when somone makes fun of a post i made.
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Nathan, Please don't be so touchy. If the wording of your posts are easily misunderstood then it must be because you don't make yourself fully clear. Nobody is getting at you, just as you do, I was making a valid comment. So please do not get so distressed, life is too short. The only person who can make you feel like a complete idiot is yourself. Thats a little bit of philosophy for you.
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The bridge crew relied heavily on these screens as it was pitch black outside.
Surely you can see how easily this happens Nathan?
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Yep, it's easily done. Did it myself in a thread a short while ago, about rudders.
What I meant and what I typed were two completely different things. Luc and others explained that I was talking sphericals, and rather than make excuses about how I meant to say something different, I cut my losses, nodded (because they were saying what I meant in the first place) and duly felt a complete fool.
Fortunately, the complete fool had other things to do so he got up and left.
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Hello :)
I am a bit confused (thats no surprise! Im always am!) anyway... I didnt get the problem with the Ocean Star... She is big enouth for me. The best thing I can say is to try and zoom in.
But Maybe Im wrong and your're right.
Ill explain very briefly what I mean for you.
If you get your mission editor and place the Ocean star mext to a smaller ship, you can see weather Vstep have the measurements right. Okay... this means this: When I make models on Sketchup, I can never make it as if my ships were sailing together, beacause usually, A cruise ship is tiny but my small motor boat towers above it like Gods ship! This is because I have not made a standard measurement (like all windows must be size 45 by 67CM) for each of my models. I have nothing to look at the size and to make it the same size as all my models. (Well I have a man who respawns but I always delete him) But this doesnt really matter to me. I just enjoy makeing models and showing 'em off! However, on Vstep, to make a good game the sizes of the different ships must "accept" each other (Sorry, I cant think of any other words to define it! If I said the same size, a motorboat has to be the same size as a cruise ship!) So lets take a game. SimCity 4 deluxe is quite a popular one. Whenever you put buildings down, they agree on each other. The doors and windows are the same size (but height doesnt matter) So lets go back to Ship sim. Ships have windows. The best way to check the Ocean star is not fauty is to see if the smaller boat's windows that you have put into your mission editor is the same as your Ocean star windows (or portholes)
Now I guess I didnt explain it well at all! I dont think it even helped you. But there we are!
Best regards and hope you find an answer to your Problem soon
Microsoft
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Hi guys, just to make clear to you what the problem was and that i tried zooming, take a look at this picture:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7690/radarmw8.png)
Look at the positions of the ships on the GPS and in 'real' world. This was the problem and it's not a big issue. I can live with it ;). Anyway thanks for your help!
Regards,
Thruster
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Look at the ocean star! Its huge! And they say the cargo liners are the biggest ships in the world
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Place Titanic next to Vermaas, and you see Titanic would have been way smaller than the biggest ship in the world nowadays :D.
Regards,
Thruster