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Title: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 06, 2008, 11:01:44
This makes me wonder :'(

http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/features/display.var.2441232.0.Is_the_world_about_to_go_out_with_a_bang.php

Our world could possably be in danger! :-\ although,  I've just looked into that Big Bang thing a bit more, aperently, it will be harmless, since there is no way they could/can produce the amount of energy in the big bang, if that theory is correct. However, the courts still have to make a decision to let this go ahead.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Person264 on September 06, 2008, 13:42:56
Just because it turns on on Wednesday doesn't mean anything is going to happen. They're just firing a proton round one way I think and it wont even be at full power. It is going to take at least 2 months for them to actually align the protons up so they actually hit each other. They're hoping to find stuff like the Higgs Boson and other hypothetical particles, and it might even make time travel possible when it goes full power. The huge energies created by smashing the particles together could, some scientists think, warp spacetime so much that it would go crazy and allow people to come from the future (they wouldn't be able to get back though I don't think). Its that same with the mini black holes idea, 14Tev of energy (Gev or Tev?) in a space the size of a proton. Big Bang "wop" oh dear black hole.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Shipaddict on September 06, 2008, 13:52:52
Seems a bit pathetic to me.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 14:44:29
Well, I have heard talk about this. The consequence is if the Eruopeans fire this thing wrong, the whole world is going to explode. I am not a dare devil, so I say no ;D.

Anyway, relating to the big bang stated in the article, it says that the magority of scientists disagree, so that is a good thing ;). Don't beleive that since a few think that, it is true, because the majority really matters on a final descion.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: trains on September 06, 2008, 14:45:35
when the suns burns out in billions of years, that will be the end of our world.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 14:49:38
But we won't be alive, so it wont be our problem ;D ;D ;D ;D!
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: llamalord on September 06, 2008, 15:04:36
I don't know Time stopped in Massachusetts Last night!

The TV froze the computer froze the clocks froze my watch froze and no cars went by.  It was like this for 11 minutes.  It was kind of creepy. :-\
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Person264 on September 06, 2008, 15:31:10
EMP. Watch for tripods coming from underground!
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 22:14:22
I don't know Time stopped in Massachusetts Last night!

The TV froze the computer froze the clocks froze my watch froze and no cars went by.  It was like this for 11 minutes.  It was kind of creepy. :-\

The only scary part of that I can relate to is everything freezing. Cars never go by in me neighborhood. I live in a nice quiet community. That way, when we hear an alarm go off in the middle of the night, everyone calls the police ;D.

EMP. Watch for tripods coming from underground!

Like your signature says, you aren't making any sence ??? ;D.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 06, 2008, 22:24:43
The world is NOT going to go out simply because someone fires a particle at a very low energy. There are far more energetic particles hitting me as I write this.

And theyre hitting you as you read this.

And hae been zipping around since time began.

Sleep soundly in your beds. Just some newspapers trying to sell copy.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: MMMMMM on September 06, 2008, 22:27:37
Maybe Terry will fly in and save us all
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 22:39:38
Probably not ;D.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 06, 2008, 22:43:04
I'm surprised the US isn't sending over any Hornets or B2's. :s
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 22:49:32
A what of b2's? Isint that the stealth bomber?
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 06, 2008, 22:50:29
A what of b2's? Isint that the stealth bomber?
Yes, and the F/A-18 Hornet is a fighter.

B2 has guided bombs, Hornet has laser guided missles.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 22:52:35
Ohh. And why are you suprised that we havent sent out bombers?
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 06, 2008, 22:53:30
Ohh. And why are you suprised that we havent sent out bombers?

Because I am sure the US finds this as a threat of life. We take anything out that could harm us. We have carriers near Europe, just send one out and put there bit project a little behind schedule.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 22:56:30
Well, they havent gotten premission to do it. They can't just fire a particle generator gun.. thing because it could blow up the world.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 06, 2008, 23:13:40
Well, they havent gotten premission to do it. They can't just fire a particle generator gun.. thing because it could blow up the world.

Yes they can, the goverment said they can, did you not read the article?
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 23:15:12
Yes yes, I read it. I just diddn't know that you could blow up the world if the govornment said so, thats all ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 06, 2008, 23:23:17
Your Government is a sponsor in the project. A little bit of research would tell you that:


I'll also tell you that I know some of the people working on this project. At least two of them post on this forum from time to time. There are others on this forum who know people on the team as well.

I strongly suggest that you stop your warlike talk, Austin. I really don't want to have to lock this thread and issue warnings, etc.

To summarise:

The reports you have read are:
(a)
incorrect
(b)
scaremongering
(c)
not even any use as toilet paper afterwards
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 06, 2008, 23:29:20
I am glad I am not in trouble ;D. I beleive you completely professor, since you are a professor and you seem to know what you are talking about ::) ;D.

Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 07, 2008, 09:21:17
Maybe thats because he is working on that experiment :o haha :D
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Person264 on September 07, 2008, 11:41:14
The only scary part of that I can relate to is everything freezing. Cars never go by in me neighborhood. I live in a nice quiet community. That way, when we hear an alarm go off in the middle of the night, everyone calls the police ;D.

Like your signature says, you aren't making any sence ??? ;D.
Ever seen War of the Worlds (new one)?
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 07, 2008, 14:57:57
Maybe thats because he is working on that experiment :o haha :D

No, I don't think so. Well.... maybe ;D.

Ever seen War of the Worlds (new one)?

No. What worlds are in the movie ;D?
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 07, 2008, 19:57:50
If you've ever read the book, it was fought in the area where I lived and went to school.

One of the books we studied in English Literature classes was War of The Worlds by dear old H. G.

It was delightful when we read about the Martians destroying Woking, since that was where the school was located...
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 07, 2008, 22:50:26
No, I don't think so. Well.... maybe ;D.

No. What worlds are in the movie ;D?

Earth, and Freds Evil Place, and the Brains of Terth. (Terry)
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 07, 2008, 22:53:11
Or it was fought between Martians, the English and flu germs.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: saltydog on September 07, 2008, 22:57:33
And Orson caused quite a stir with his radio show.. ;)
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: The Captain on September 08, 2008, 00:57:24
Earth, and Freds Evil Place, and the Brains of Terth. (Terry)


Evil place ey? Hmm, I might want to visit this evil place of which you speak ;D.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 08, 2008, 18:37:28
Perhaps you live there already, but don't yet realise it...
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Agent|Austin on September 08, 2008, 18:52:14

Evil place ey? Hmm, I might want to visit this evil place of which you speak ;D.

Go into the basement at 666 ave and 666 st in Evilville
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: RJK on September 08, 2008, 18:58:26
Go into the basement at 666 ave and 666 st in Evilville

Where did you get my ex wife's address from???

Russ K
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 08, 2008, 19:09:46
Your ex-wife lives at the same address as my ex-wife's mother? Wow!
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: mvsmith on September 08, 2008, 19:36:58
Or it was fought between Martians, the English and flu germs.

Actually, Terry, it was fought between the Martians, the Jerseyites—ours, not yours—and a virus, specifically the Secaucus Crud. Ask your better half.

The LZ was about 10 miles NE of Trenton—site of another epic battle where we beat the… never mind.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 08, 2008, 19:47:18
Depends whether you're talking Radio or Book.....

The radio program is legendary even here. I've listened to a recording a few years back.

In the book, I loved the way the Martians blew up my school.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Person264 on September 09, 2008, 17:24:49
Back to the topic of the world "ending" and the LHC, I have to admit that it has caused quite a stir at my school. Everyone seems to think that the world will end tomorrow and I bet the science department are happy with everyone that teensy bit more interested in science. It's great advertising.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: JHB on September 09, 2008, 19:46:52
Happy BIG BANG everyone! :D :D

(sorry but some people like me laugh themselves of the chair by reading stuff like that) ;)

I think I'm more afraid for a new cold war between US and Russia if it will become a 2nd reality in the human history... ::)
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 09, 2008, 20:05:02
Well, if we all wake up dead tomorrow, I think many people will blame me.  ???
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Person264 on September 09, 2008, 20:08:59
Terry are you part of/going to be part of if we still exist the link up thing that might be needed for the huge amount of data that is going to come from the LHC?
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 09, 2008, 20:11:45
Well, tomorrow is the moment of truth, chances are, we will be fine, if not, it was nice knowing you all (being serious for once there).

Jack.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: JHB on September 09, 2008, 20:15:15
When will this happen in GMT, UTC time...or what? Just to make sure that I get the Norwegian time ;D
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Paddy134 on September 09, 2008, 20:23:31
 The world has ended about 4 times in the last 10 or so years, i don't see why this time it sould be different.  If anything goes wrong it is under ground so damage will be minimal because i don't think the actual thing they are doing will be as powerful as the origional big bang... but just in case... Bye bye everyone :P its a shame the human race didn't have much of a innings.


Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Person264 on September 09, 2008, 20:24:20
I think it's 7:30 GMT. That's when the BBC radio 4 program about it starts. Unless they turn it on before and sneakily destroy us while we aren't looking.

Did people worry about the world ending when the last big collider was built?
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: J3nsen on September 09, 2008, 20:29:30
Black Hole!  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: JHB on September 09, 2008, 20:40:38
LOL J3nsen ;D The time and the light will be stretched so hard... But what I have seen on movies it's some kind of time travel. So we may just end up back to the time when this Earth had this creature as it's leader.. :P

(http://www.calacademy.org/exhibits/dinos/images/field_guide_trex.jpg)

or much better...the stone age ::)

Proud to be a Viking ;D

Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: J3nsen on September 09, 2008, 20:49:18

 ::)
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Person264 on September 09, 2008, 20:51:04
We can't travel back in time (cos there would be nothing there to appear in), but people could travel back in time to when we first start the LHC if it warps spacetime enough.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 09, 2008, 21:59:27
I think that the worry that people have is that they think that a molecular level black hole (if produced) would sink to the centre of the earth and gradually swallow the earth up, atom by atom.

A reasonable concern. Ray Bradbury wrote a "Golden Age" science fiction story about that happening on Mars, I think.

BUT,

(1)
The particle accelerator doesn't have even a part of a bit of a small portion of a fraction of what is needed, energy-wise.

(2)
Black holes have a life-time related to their mass. With such a tiny mass, any black hole would radiate out of existence in such a short time that the systems might not even notice it. (Black holes are fuzzy and have no hair). The engergy given out would be about the same as the collision put in when creating it.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: JHB on September 09, 2008, 22:21:24
I just try to focus on the clock here... ;D
Sooner or later it will be "bedtime" ::)
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: saltydog on September 10, 2008, 00:08:47
Here are some interesting NatGeo articles I found ..

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/god-particle/achenbach-text
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080909-black-hole.html
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: JHB on September 10, 2008, 01:29:57
I'm still alive...strange :P
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 10, 2008, 07:35:49
Have we escaped death? or are we still waiting.....I got NO sleep last night. Although, i did watch the news last night about the Collider, and they did say that the black hole theory is a load of rubbish.

Jack.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Jackobaker53 on September 10, 2008, 07:51:12
this is EPIC,truly EPIC! would b cool if the earth exploded,ive always wanted to go to space  :P relax everybody look on te bright side of things,if it goes wrong it creates a black hole gobbling up the planet along with us and we suffer a slow and painful death  :P OR, if it goesa right then we can go along our usual days
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 10, 2008, 08:03:58
MWAHAHHAHA Its the Final Countdown!!!! HAHAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-TKfSetAE
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: JHB on September 10, 2008, 15:29:53
They just fired it up this time. After two weeks the real experiment starts (the collision).
And the amount of energy it creates is so small that the impact of it will be microscopic compared to the energy that was released during the big bang (or when God made his first -fart- :) )
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Shipaddict on September 10, 2008, 16:04:36
Have we escaped death? or are we still waiting.....I got NO sleep last night. Although, i did watch the news last night about the Collider, and they did say that the black hole theory is a load of rubbish.

Jack.

No sleep? :P You must be worried, i dropped pretty quick :D :P
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 10, 2008, 19:21:19
No-one disappeared up their own paradox?

Good. Fuss over nothing, then.  ;D
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: saltydog on September 10, 2008, 19:45:31
I just hope a little black pea won't come drifting through my kitchen someday and swallow my Marmite..(or my kitchen :)
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 10, 2008, 19:53:37
Marmite is composed entirely of inert neutrinos.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: saltydog on September 10, 2008, 21:06:48
Very reassuring Terry, I just wish they had built one of these with the spare parts..
An Omega 13.. ;D
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 10, 2008, 21:34:28
Is THAT where I left it?

I've been looking everywhere for it. It slipped the lead and ran off last week.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: saltydog on September 10, 2008, 21:37:25
Yep, that's where you left it..these guys would like to thank you for that.. ;D
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 10, 2008, 22:16:26
Yes, since the Toolman left, I am their God.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on September 10, 2008, 22:30:40
we are alive im glad that the LHC didnt form a black hole yet.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: saltydog on September 10, 2008, 23:07:55
Don't hold your breath..they haven't started to bang yet.. ;)
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: CaptainMike1 on September 11, 2008, 13:00:06
Difficult to see what all the fuss was about really. Everyone should have listened to Professor Hawkins
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on September 13, 2008, 00:46:22
they say it could take up to 4 months to get it fully working
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: firestar12 on September 13, 2008, 02:18:06
I WANT MARMITE. I wish i could get it. lol.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: Nathan|C on September 13, 2008, 08:05:41
I WANT MARMITE. I wish i could get it. lol.

Congrats, you've just one random post of the week  ;D
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 13, 2008, 13:22:18
Hi Firestar.

Marmite is of course a pan-thread topic.

See here for details, but please read all posts carefully. You will be examined on your understanding later.

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,3277.0.html
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: firestar12 on September 13, 2008, 14:34:54
Sorry, I saw you guys talking about it earlier.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: trains on September 13, 2008, 14:41:19
Yes, since the Toolman left, I am their God.
Tim the Toolman Taylor is gone? :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: TerryRussell on September 13, 2008, 14:52:29
Tim the Toolman Taylor is gone? :o :o :o :o

Lives on the  Disney Channel Planet now.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: trains on September 13, 2008, 14:54:19
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE BLONGS ON NICK @ NITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: firestar12 on September 13, 2008, 16:04:21
Tim the Toolman Taylor is gone? :o :o :o :o
No, hes still on Home Improvment at Nick at Night, dont believe anything.
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: trains on September 13, 2008, 17:21:03
yay. MORE POWER!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is the world about to go out with a bang?
Post by: firestar12 on September 13, 2008, 20:21:01
yay. MORE POWER!!!!!!!
*Tim allen Grunt* aka http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAhVmjptZMI