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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: trains on August 23, 2008, 18:47:48

Title: sweet
Post by: trains on August 23, 2008, 18:47:48
yay. i just bought an airsoft gun and it looks so real. its awsome.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on August 23, 2008, 19:14:48
i dont like airsoft guns too much but i heard they are fun.  I have a tippman 98 custom paintball gun with flatliner barrel.  im going to get a bi pod and a new hopper
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 23, 2008, 19:17:28
I have a WALTHER P99 full metal, it is a piece of junk but that is what you get for $15. :) It works well enough to scare my damn friends when they are being annoying. :)
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: trains on August 23, 2008, 19:41:34
this one is awsome. looks like a cops pistol.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 23, 2008, 19:53:50
Yes most cops in the US use a Glock 17
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 23, 2008, 19:58:07
My friend is really into airsoft, so he has P90's and military air soft guns and he has one from the marines. He says we can't use that though because it really hurts bad. You would have to be in bed for a while if we used the marine gun ;D. So, I use a shot-gun and he uses a P90. Good work out ;D.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: trains on August 23, 2008, 19:59:50
I'm going shooting again. later.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 23, 2008, 20:03:28
With..... who ;D? You can't just shoot people ;D.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 23, 2008, 20:03:56
I am getting a full-auto electric P90 soon. :)

@The Captain, I shoot mailboxes, see how far away I can get. :P
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 23, 2008, 20:10:03
Ohh, good luck with that ;D. I would advise a shot-gun Austin. Accurate, barely affected by wind, good ammo length.

A P90 on the other hand: Innacurate, not a long range of fire, affected more by wind, very little ammo space in the magazine, constant reloading.

Now, about that mail-box shooting, that isint very polite ;D. Why don't you call a friend and invite him to shoot with you? That is what my friend does with me :). Much more fun with a friend than a mail-box ;D.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 23, 2008, 20:14:33
Ohh, good luck with that ;D. I would advise a shot-gun Austin. Accurate, barely affected by wind, good ammo length.

A P90 on the other hand: Innacurate, not a long range of fire, affected more by wind, very little ammo space in the magazine, constant reloading.

Now, about that mail-box shooting, that isint very polite ;D. Why don't you call a friend and invite him to shoot with you? That is what my friend does with me :). Much more fun with a friend than a mail-box ;D.

200 rounds in the mag, 200 rounds per minute. :)

We shoot trees too. We stuffed our neighbors mailbox full of snow once. :P
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Captain Darling on August 23, 2008, 20:17:08
BB Guns/airsoft guns are great if you live in the countryside.. but if you live in a town or city they are not a good idea, as there are many people that could confuse it to a real gun and call the police. :-\

And after armed police found out they only stopped a BB Gun (Fake Gun) they still arrest you for wasting their time... Seen it many times on the Tv.. :-\

I would love to have a BB Gun, and was about to buy one, but where I live i don't have anywhere to use it without people seeing and risking someone calling the police.. For what its worth, i don't want a criminal record :-\
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 23, 2008, 20:20:56
that is why you have to leave the orange cap on, and they can't arrest you for wasting there time, it wasn't your fault it was the person calling, they would arrest them for a false report.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 23, 2008, 20:22:27
In my case I am fine because in our communitys, it is mostly quiet. Also James, people won't think you have a real gun if they see you in a long sleeve shirt, pants and you have goggles or glasses on ;D.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Captain Darling on August 23, 2008, 21:03:16
that is why you have to leave the orange cap on, and they can't arrest you for wasting there time, it wasn't your fault it was the person calling, they would arrest them for a false report.
Some bb guns don't even have a orange cap on :(
Yeah.. but its typical british police...

In my case I am fine because in our communitys, it is mostly quiet. Also James, people won't think you have a real gun if they see you in a long sleeve shirt, pants and you have goggles or glasses on ;D.
Hmm, I don't think you need goggles for a bb gun??? All im would do with a bb gun would be target practising...

I might go to my local police station one day and ask for more info about BB Guns.. They will probably say I shouldn't get one. Also with the increasing weopen crime in the UK atm it wouldn't be a good idea to have one...
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: tom06 on August 23, 2008, 23:00:12
BB guns are perfectly leagal in the Uk as long as they are used on private land. You can still get arrested under the firearms act if you carry one in public though. I have a full auto M16 BB rifle and have used it my back yard with people watching from the streets and there have been no problems so I wouldnt worry.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 23, 2008, 23:11:45
Also James, I was talking about air soft guns, not BB guns ;D. BB guns you can be killed with, air soft guns you feel like you gut stung. Yes, you do need goggles or glasses with air soft as a safety measure.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 24, 2008, 06:44:04
James, all air soft and fake guns MUST have an orange cap. It is a law.

tell the british police to shove it in their [insert own word here]

And you can have a gun in public if you have a permit, my uncle does and carrys a handgun everywhere,
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: ekto on August 24, 2008, 12:05:07
Meaby you cannot carry wepons in britan? I know that in Finland you cannot get such permit. Actually you cannot carry anything that might be used to harm someone with out reason. Example if you are out with your frends, you can get arrested for carrying a screw driver.

If you have a gun permtit, you can carry it with you if you are camming or going to a shtooting range, or something else gun related. Not for safety or something else...
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 24, 2008, 14:51:03
James, all air soft and fake guns MUST have an orange cap. It is a law.

tell the british police to shove it in their [insert own word here]

And you can have a gun in public if you have a permit, my uncle does and carrys a handgun everywhere,

Hey, be nice >:( ;D. The British(Also the germans by far ::) ;D) are awsome!!!! They have cool accents ;D. But, I can have a british accent whenever I want because I have practiced ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on August 24, 2008, 15:56:59
James, all air soft and fake guns MUST have an orange cap. It is a law.

tell the british police to shove it in their [insert own word here]

And you can have a gun in public if you have a permit, my uncle does and carrys a handgun everywhere,
about that permit as sone as i get mine which is in 2 weeks im going to carry a 12 gadge shotgun in my truck and a 9 mm in my pocket
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 24, 2008, 16:04:43
Wow! What made you want to carry around 2 guns ????
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: tom06 on August 24, 2008, 17:41:58
In the Uk NO one is allowed to own a gun exept if they belong to a shooting club and have a lisense. But they are still not alowed to carry any gun in public unless it is in a locked case and the ammo is stored in another locked case else where and they must only carry it if they are on the way to or back from the club. Even the cops are not allowed to carry a gun unless they have had special training and belong to a armed response unit. Also bb and airsoft gun here have to have a orange cap OR a coloured barrel.

Tom

Edit: Air rifles (that fire pellets) have slitely different rules but are mostly the same
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on August 24, 2008, 17:53:10
Wow! What made you want to carry around 2 guns ????
1 in my truck that has more firepower and 1 to carry around.  And after hurricane katrina in mississippi crime has skyrocketed and people stealing stuff
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 24, 2008, 19:02:27
Well you can't shoot them. That is illegal. I think :-[.
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on August 24, 2008, 19:06:12
if somebody is on your property in mississippi i can kill them if i want.  its legal to shoot them to if your shot at
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 24, 2008, 19:10:29
You can shoot them. It is called self defense, if your property or life in in immediate danger you have the right to shoot.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_arms

The people's right to have their own arms for their defense is described in the philosophical and political writings of Aristotle, Cicero, John Locke, Machiavelli, the English Whigs, and others.[10] Though possessing arms appears to be distinct from "bearing" them, the possession of arms is recognized as necessary for and a logical precursor to the bearing of arms.[11] Particularly in the event of oppression or slaughter of people by governments or racial majorities, researchers have noted that exercise of the right to bear arms internationally is intrinsically linked to a people's ability to possess them.[12]

In commentary written by Justice Cummings in United States v. Emerson, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit concluded in 2001 that:[13]

    "there are numerous instances of the phrase 'bear arms' being used to describe a civilian's carrying of arms. Early constitutional provisions or declarations of rights in at least some ten different states speak of the right of the 'people' [or 'citizen' or 'citizens'] "to bear arms in defense of themselves [or 'himself'] and the state,' or equivalent words, thus indisputably reflecting that under common usage 'bear arms' was in no sense restricted to bearing arms in military service."[14]

The bearing of arms by civilians in this sense is exercised in Israel to prevent terrorist attacks on grade schools.[15]

Similarly, in a released Senate report on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Senator Orrin G. Hatch, chairman, U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on the Constitution, states:

    They argue that the Second Amendment's words "right of the people" mean "a right of the state" — apparently overlooking the impact of those same words when used in the First and Fourth Amendments. The "right of the people" to assemble or to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures is not contested as an individual guarantee. Still they ignore consistency and claim that the right to "bear arms" relates only to military uses. This not only violates a consistent constitutional reading of "right of the people" but also ignores that the second amendment protects a right to "keep" arms. "When our ancestors forged a land "conceived in liberty", they did so with musket and rifle. When they reacted to attempts to dissolve their free institutions, and established their identity as a free nation, they did so as a nation of armed freemen. When they sought to record forever a guarantee of their rights, they devoted one full amendment out of ten to nothing but the protection of their right to keep and bear arms against governmental interference. Under my chairmanship the Subcommittee on the Constitution will concern itself with a proper recognition of, and respect for, this right most valued by free men."[16]

Likewise, the Supreme Court of the United States affirmed in District of Columbia v. Heller, No. 07-290, that "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."
Title: Re: sweet
Post by: The Captain on August 24, 2008, 19:19:11
I bet it took a while to write all that ;D. I don't have time to read it all, but I do get your point Austin :). Thank you both for clearing that up for me ;D.