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Title: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 07, 2011, 22:13:32
Hello,
I am sorry if I miss something obvious, but taking the "late night run" from Dover to Calais (campaign mission) using Albatos IV is fine till I arrive at Calais. I enter the port, but have no idea of where to moor the ship! I turned all around the port, clicked on the mooring icon but never got anything yellow lit on shore, only the ship's mooring positions.
I tried to stop at the vehicle ramp with "Calais" written on it (any one of them) but game still went on. No waypoints there and no way for me to find the right place to moor. Could you please help me?
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: Tarick789 on May 07, 2011, 22:28:54
YOU UP FOR MULTIPLAYER
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: The Ferry Man on May 07, 2011, 23:13:01
Greetings Ilias74

The berth you require is at the end of the channel at Calais, when entering Calais, if you keep on the left of the harbour, past the berths and the flaming building (Why in Dover is there a building a flame - who knows... :/) You will come across the berth at the very end. :)

Tarick - try the billboard for MP :)
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: assassinator2.0 on May 08, 2011, 03:11:34
Greetings Ilias74

The berth you require is at the end of the channel at Calais, when entering Calais, if you lkeep on the starboard left of the harbour, past the berths and the flaming building (Why in Dover is there a building a flame - who knows... :/) You will come across the berth at the very end. :)

Tarick - try the billboard for MP :)

 theres a flaming building? ive never saw it
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: The Ferry Man on May 08, 2011, 09:56:52
I am sure I remember you come in, dodge a dredger and then there is a flaming warehouse with a tug (I think) trying to put it out...
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: Stuart2007 on May 08, 2011, 10:00:19
Greetings Ilias74

The berth you require is at the end of the channel at Calais, when entering Calais, if you lkeep on the starboard left of the harbour, past the berths and the flaming building (Why in Dover is there a building a flame - who knows... :/) You will come across the berth at the very end. :)

Tarick - try the billboard for MP :)

Starboard left? Is this a new nautical term that I've never heard before?
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: The Ferry Man on May 08, 2011, 11:41:02
oh yes brand new term :p

Created last night, in fact  :doh:
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: mvsmith on May 08, 2011, 12:24:56
Formerly known as “Hard a starboard” (Left full rudder).
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 08, 2011, 17:22:04
Thank you all for your answers and for being patient with such a newbie like me  ;)
I actually did moor at the berth after the building on flames another time before, but game still goes on ???
I'm surely missing something again.
I moor the ship bow heading vs berth and vv stern heading to shore, but same results, the activity goes on and I don't get the completion dialogue... Should I drop anchors too? Should I just wait for some minute there moored?
Thanks again...
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: TJK on May 08, 2011, 17:25:32
Hi and welcome to the forum

Can you make a screen shot of the probleme, i have joust playd the mission you talking about, no error for me, drop anchor no need
Thanks
kind regards
Tore
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: cpt.nordstrand on May 08, 2011, 17:31:04
sail past the flamming building, and keep sailing to the end of the channel/harbour
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 08, 2011, 22:20:01
Hello,
please find attached the screenshot you asked for.
Thanks
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: Stuart2007 on May 08, 2011, 22:55:40
They still have a lot of powercuts in shipsim.

One of the nicest things about sailing into Calais is the illumination of the harbour, town and cite europe and the eurostar/sewer terminal.
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: muns on May 08, 2011, 23:00:41
I thought the mission requires you to berth stern first - you have berthed bow first.
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 08, 2011, 23:57:57
Sorry tried that too before...  :( Nothing happened...

Please see the screenshot with stern mooring...

What can this be? Is it possible it could be a bug related to my specific configuration? Other people say it's fine  ???
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: mvsmith on May 09, 2011, 00:50:07
Hi ilias,

Unfortunately this mission is locked, so that the question of which way to berth, which could be answered easily in the mission editor will need to be answered by someone who remembers—unless someone still has an unlocked copy.

This link explains about playing locked missions, but you must register your serial key in your forum profile to access it, and to access the Missions board where all questions about missions should be asked.
http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,25186.0.html (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,25186.0.html)

Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 09, 2011, 11:02:50
Hello,
does this mean I have to complete missions in sequence (1-2-3-4...)? Each one unlocks the one under it? If yes, wouldn't it be more meaningful not to let the player begin the mission, warning him/her about the fact he/she has to unlock it first by completing the previous mission? I might be missing something again so please be patient.
 
I also see that entering port by bow or stern and mooring at the right place has no effect please read and check the screenshots on my previous posts. There is no "trigger" (the green sun alike spot) on the chart corresponding to the mooring berth and even if I ask for the "waypoints" on the compass I only get the Dover one (where I also see the trigger spot when I start the mission).

I read the posts you suggested - I also registered my Ship Sim serial, I put only the ferry pack s.n. first time - and, for what is my experience till now, it seems like a bug. The mission is not a downloaded from the forum one, but one of the original (not edited) defaults coming with the Ferry pack.

Who should I contact to examine and resolve this?

Thanks again...
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: The Ferry Man on May 09, 2011, 11:04:23
I will give the mission another go later on, and will post the results  :)
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: mvsmith on May 09, 2011, 12:07:09
Hi ilias,

Thank you for registering.
First: “Locking” as the term is commonly used here does not mean that missions must be played in a certain order. That feature is not implemented in SSE. All missions may be played in any order you choose. Some authors may produce a series of missions that make more sense if played in chronological order, but there is no “locking” to force that.

When a mission is locked, that means that it cannot be opened for examination in the mission editor. It means that we cannot tell you, for instance, whether the mission logic requires you to dock stern first, or to tie up with one or with two lines. You must depend entirely upon the messages that appear on-screen to tell you how to proceed. In some cases, a short message may only stay on the screen for a few seconds, so you must be alert.

The “objective” messages are a vital part of the mission. If you feel that they do not tell you, clearly, what you must do to proceed with the mission, then you should send a PM to the author and ask him to explain. He is the one who is responsible for providing such support for all of his missions if they are locked.

Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on May 09, 2011, 12:28:06
Hi
Going by pic you may not have gone back far enough to trigger the end
you get message telling you to go back when mooring  .
                                                                                  Eric
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 09, 2011, 14:26:11
I don't think it's the case, and anyway it would be absurd to ask for such precision to trigger the end of acivity.
Here is a screenshot from another angle.
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: pepe on May 09, 2011, 16:44:00
Hi Illias
the right position with the right mooring points.

Greetings Pepe
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 09, 2011, 17:08:23
No luck, same thing. Although your screenshot has the mooring tool covering the exact stern point it's not important, it's quite obvious. But doesn't work, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: Joey1 on May 09, 2011, 19:38:12
I think your problem is that you missed an earlier waypoint and the waypoint in Calais isn't active. If you look at your screenshot in the left top it says "Head to Calais", which is as far as I remember the second or third waypoint.

If this isn't the solution I'm sorry, I have no other idea.

Joey
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: mvsmith on May 09, 2011, 19:39:30
Gentlemen,

Looking at the mission in the editor, it appears that two point entities are attached to Albatross while in Dover—one at the bow and one at the stern. The stern point must be within 25 meters of an area with a radius of 25 meters.
She must have two lines ashore.

The bow point is used to determine if she is attempting to berth bow first.

Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: mvsmith on May 09, 2011, 20:29:42
Unlike SS08, completion of prior objectives is not usually necessary for the “activation” or completion of an objective.
However, completion of the preceding objective is usually what makes the marker on the chart visible. In this case, the marker would be at the dock. It is not necessary for the marker to be visible in order for an objective to be completed, as long as the player in the right place.

It is also, in most cases, necessary to satisfy the conditions of an objective before the mission logic can proceed to the next state.
If you are not getting messages that you need to go back farther, or turn around, then the objective may not be active, and Joey may be right.

The first objective is the teleport, which you have done.
Completing the next objective gives the message “You have entered the Port of Calais”, starts objective 3 “Moor at the designated berth” and makes the marker alongside the dock visible.

Tying up to two bollards with your ship’s stern even with the end of the dock should complete the objective.
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: ilias74 on May 09, 2011, 20:45:04
Might be that I missed a waypoint marker then, as I don't see any other reason and I also don't get any of messages you quoted.

Can someone that already completed the mission tell me how many they are?

Anyway, I will start over again and let you know if the problem persists.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Albatros IV Dover-Calais Late night Run
Post by: mvsmith on May 09, 2011, 21:31:20
There are the two described in my last post.

Picture 2 shows the orange point entities attached to bow & stern of Abatross.

Picture 1 shows the final “waypoint”, the large sphere entity alongside the dock and the small 25 meter sphere that the stern point must be in.