Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => Topic started by: Britannic on July 28, 2007, 13:03:50
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It is absolutly brilliant! Eventhough my top frame rate was.... 9! I'm afraid it's WAY to slow on my cpu, and I dont wanna have to put it into windowed and change my res every time to get a good frame rate. I'm still going to get it, but Im also going to get ss06 and leave ss08 alone till a 800x600 patch comes out. Of course, as I'm sure your all aware, theres a way to get 640x480 by selcting a higher res after using a lower one, but That's a bit of a rigmaroll! I understand that if the res was lowered, the gui would overlap, but, come on, whats more important? A few words being covered up wich can be componsated by the keyboard anyway, or a basically unplayable game. :)
But thats enough of that. Vstep, you guys are GENIUS'S! What I have seen so far of the game is unbelievable. Maybe just because I dont go on many games, and so not used to the 'thrill', but seriously, well done guys! :)
My specs:
Amd Athlon Dual~2016mhz
nvid geforce 6100 256mb ramdac
1gb ram (XP)
and all the other stuff's o.k.
(P.s- my house has no central heating so in winter it gets below 8 degrees- this normally acts as an overclock system for my cpu and it clocks to about 2300mhz, so hopefully I may be able to play in winter with a good 16fps! :D)
Thanks, Sky.
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As far as I can tell, the 1 thing letting your PC down is the graphics card. A little more RAM would also help the performance/quality balance to be achieved ;)
I use 2gb RAM and it makes a great deal of difference to your games, my desktop comes back straight away on all my games, whereas before it would take a few seconds and a refresh to get it back ::)
Regards.
DJM.
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I played the demo this morning. It's laggy, but that's deu to my graphics-card. My Processor and memory should be up to it. I'm thinking of getting the GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP. And hope that it runs smooth then. :D
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I played the demo this morning. It's laggy, but that's deu to my graphics-card. My Processor and memory should be up to it. I'm thinking of getting the GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP. And hope that it runs smooth then. :D
It should do, any 7 series should be fine ;)
Regards.
DJM.
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I can run the game smoothly with my 3ghz, 1gb ram and Geforce 6800 Ultra, so 1gb ram will do fine, even if w is of course even better ;)
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Thanks, DJM- Its shared graphics, not dedicated-would that make a differance? :)
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My laptop has shared memory and is OK if it has fully populated memory slots. Best avoided though if possible.
Stu
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Thanks, DJM- Its shared graphics, not dedicated-would that make a differance? :)
Shared graphics, as I'm sure you know, takes RAM away from your PC to perform graphics functions. This can have a dramatic effect on overall system performance.....this doesn't mean it will, but keep this in mind ;)
As Stu says, avoid shared graphics if possible, dedicated is designed to be more effective and always performs better in any bench-test ;)
Regards.
DJM.
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Sorry. Wasn't trying to interrupt.
DJM is right (as usual ;) ) I think my post was a bit misleading. Compared to a dedicated GFX card, a shared one will not be as good, as DJM says.
But you CAN get away with a shared unit but only if you FULLY populate all simm slots with as much memory as possible. And set the BiOs to auto allocate memory.
Stu
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Sorry. Wasn't trying to interrupt.
DJM is right (as usual ;) ) I think my post was a bit misleading. Compared to a dedicated GFX card, a shared one will not be as good, as DJM says.
But you CAN get away with a shared unit but only if you FULLY populate all simm slots with as much memory as possible. And set the BiOs to auto allocate memory.
Stu
You weren't interrupting or misleading at all ;)
I think both of us combined our efforts there to make the entire subject more understandable (I hope so anyway) :D
LOL @ 'as usual'......we try our best, but we're only human and ALL make mistakes ;)
Regards.
DJM.
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we're only human and ALL make mistakes ;)
Speak for yourself :P
Stu
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Speak for yourself :P
Stu
LOL, there's always one :P
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i get full frames with mt GeForce 7600 GT! ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks guys-i do admit I always wondered what differance my system would have if I had 1024meg instead of 768. Undoubtably, buying another Ram stick would up my frame rate, but would it be better to get a dedicated card? My Nvid is geforce 6100 but nforce 405, which as I'm sure you know means its integrated. Would this make a differance in changing the graphics, as a card may conflict with the on-board graphics? Excuse me if I'm being a bit thick, It's just I havnt' really 'played' with graphics hardware before. :)
I tried changing the Page File last night from 1152 meg to 2400meg. As I'm sure you can guess, that made no differance-but I'm just so desperate to be able to run ss08 as I'm getting it tomorrow. :)
P.s- Is it possible to have Intel Graphics on an AMD board? Just wondering.
Thanks, Sky.
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Thanks guys-i do admit I always wondered what differance my system would have if I had 1024meg instead of 768. Undoubtably, buying another Ram stick would up my frame rate, but would it be better to get a dedicated card? My Nvid is geforce 6100 but nforce 405, which as I'm sure you know means its integrated. Would this make a differance in changing the graphics, as a card may conflict with the on-board graphics? Excuse me if I'm being a bit thick, It's just I havnt' really 'played' with graphics hardware before. :)
I tried changing the Page File last night from 1152 meg to 2400meg. As I'm sure you can guess, that made no differance-but I'm just so desperate to be able to run ss08 as I'm getting it tomorrow. :)
P.s- Is it possible to have Intel Graphics on an AMD board? Just wondering.
Thanks, Sky.
When you buy a dedicate graphics card, you disable the on-board card, some cards do this automatically ;)
I also have an integrated graphics chip on my motherboard (also 6100), it's by-passed with my GeForce 6600 ;)
I did try the onboard graphics as I like to experiment with my PC so I know what it's capable of. It was terrible when compared to my dedicated card ::)
As far as the page-file is concerned, it's best to let Windows control this as changing it can affect performance ;)
A little tip on RAM when upgrading, if possible get 2 sticks of identical size and type. Most boards now allow you to run RAM sticks like this in Dual-Channel mode, this will give you a substantial performance boost. As an example, if you have 1 stick of 1gb, get another 1gb and check the Dual-Channel settings on your board, the manual will tell you exactly which slots to put both sticks in to enable Dual-Channel mode (usually different colours) ;)
Intel graphics on an AMD capable board? Not to my knowledge, they always use nVidia integrated chips on AMD boards :D
Hope this information helps you out :)
If you need any further advice, please feel free to ask ;)
Regards.
DJM.
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thanks a million DJM- i never realised how the memory being used differently could really effect performance, but now you've said that I think I may just try an upgrade...
Thanks, and Ill let you know what happens! :)
Cheers again, Sky
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i get full frames with mt GeForce 7600 GT! ;D ;D ;D
Do you have the graphics on the best choice with that card and the game runs smoothly?
Just wondered because i might buy that card today ;)
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thanks a million DJM- i never realised how the memory being used differently could really effect performance, but now you've said that I think I may just try an upgrade...
Thanks, and Ill let you know what happens! :)
Cheers again, Sky
You're very welcome :D
I look forward to checking out your NEW spec when you upgrade (I may even be a little jealous ;))
Regards.
DJM.
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Thanks- as I say, I will try to get SOMETHING done, if not just an extra bit of ram ;), but I gotta get permission from the trouble 'n strife :( before I go spending money! :)
I must say, it was very reassuring you having the 6100 and upgrading with no probs at all-Ill check out the card your using! Just out of interest, what brand is your machine? Mine's an Acer Aspire T series.
Thanks, Sky.
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Mine is pre-selected hardware (basically, what I could afford to get). I asked for specific items to allow for an individual setup, I based this on researching the hardware first ;)
I didn't have a great deal to spend on the spec, but got a great system for the money :D
I am looking at upgrading some of these parts in the next 12 months......PC's eh ::)
My spec:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
GeForce 6600 512mb graphics
2gb DDR400 RAM (running in Dual-Channel mode)
Realtek on-board 7.1 sound (running with a 2.1 setup, 1600 watt speakers)
1 SATA-II Hard drive 160gb
2 IDE Hard drives 120gb & 60gb (both 133, 7200rpm) - these 2 are from my old PC
Plus other hardware to keep me entertained:
Graphics Tablet
Capture Card (for analogue and digital capture from most devices)
Regards.
DJM.
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hey all i just tried the demo now and i think its good but its way to laggy on my pc i got all the specs that they said would be reccomended and i got the geforce 7600 SE anyone know any good upgrades i could get to run the game more better?
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hey all i just tried the demo now and i think its good but its way to laggy on my pc i got all the specs that they said would be reccomended and i got the geforce 7600 SE anyone know any good upgrades i could get to run the game more better?
Hiya :)
That would depend on the model of your motherboard (among other things).
It may just be the case that you need to update some drivers for your system rather than upgrade your hardware ;)
I would try the driver updates first. If you are above the minimum, the game should run ok, so I would always presume a driver issue :)
Regards.
DJM.
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I've just tried the demo(my kids were enthralled) and now ordered the game...b.t.w. I tried the demo on my two comps,one with a ati1900xt256mb the other nvdia6600gt128mb.Result:- as expected fps drop badly in presence of many objects ,vessels with the nvdia card, therefore if your going to upgrade your video card get something with at least 20 pipelines.
good one vst and any improvement for free is greatly appreciated.
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I played the demo this morning. It's laggy, but that's deu to my graphics-card. My Processor and memory should be up to it. I'm thinking of getting the GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP. And hope that it runs smooth then. :D
i have 7600 GT but GS's are better!gts run the game with the no lag!
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Hello,
i would like to post my favourite Graphic Cards :
X1950 Pro with 512 MB / 179 EUR
Geforce 8800 GTS 640 MB / 369 EUR or the GTX 786MB Version for 499 EUR
X2900 XT with 512 MB / 349 EUR
I suggest don´t waste money with mid-class Graphic Cards (but that is just my opinion). The X1950 Pro is a very good choice, if u are familiar with ATI Cards.
my self, actually i own a Radeon X800 PRO. Shipsim and other up2date-Games running very well. And i only have an AMD 2600+ (333-Edition).
You should know that a HighEnd Processor such as E6600 or an AMD X2 6000 is needed to take the Advantage of the above Graphic Cards. My Opinion: If u are upgrading, than do it right, or the next Highend Game hunts your PC through the Forest.
I guess, i dont have to add that enough Memory (2 GB+) is necessary.
Bye and i hope i could help.
Torsten
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It should do, any 7 series should be fine ;)
Regards.
DJM.
except for the Nvidia geforce 7300 LE,is too poor for game play.
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Do you have the graphics on the best choice with that card and the game runs smoothly?
Just wondered because i might buy that card today ;)
yes!i put everyhting full except for 3 sliders aND IT WORKS WITH THE LITTELEST AMOUNT LAG ON EARTH!
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Thank you for answer,will probably help me with my choice of new graphic card ;)
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Hey-me again! ;D Just wondering-How the hell did my card work out that the ferry deserves a better fr than the patrol boat? The harbour patrol boat (forgotten what its called in this one-but its the one thats blue n' white! ::)) operates at 7-9, whilst the ferry zooms along in the same place at a spacking 16fr! Is it my LOD settings on my card gone bust or something n' it aint loading details proper like? Im really confused! I am aware of the fact that different weather determines where you are placed. (Or at least for me) and so have started in the same place with both-so it cant be weather or environment!
Thanks (Yet) again, Sky.
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Do not really know if I should post this here...but I think I am going to:
If i am installing a new graphic card on my PC and the graphic card is PCI-E 16x and my computer have PCI-E 32x.....can i install the card who have PCI-E 16x then?
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The game runs pretty well on my pc depending on what settings I pick. For anyone else's interest my specs are:
AMD Athlon 3400+ Clawhammer (2.4Ghz which is higher to a Intel valued processor)
Team RAM 512MB
200GB + 80GB Slave IDE HDD's
450W PSU
MSI mobo
ATI X1600 PRO 512MB RAM 500Mhz Graphics Card (AGP STILL isn't dead!! ;D)
Not the best system on earth and I'd love to upgrade to AMD X2, PCI-X, DDR2 and SATA.
TIP: When buying a graphics card ALWAYS check the CORE clock speed, the higher this is the better your games will run. I have a 500mhz Core which isn't fast but isn't slow. So if you need a pretty good graphics card don't get one with anything lower than 500mhz Clock speed and 256MB graphics ;)
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Hey Capt. Spencer- don't let Orinoco hear you use an AMD... ;)
What exactly is a clawhammer anyway?
Stu
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Hey Capt. Spencer- don't let Orinoco hear you use an AMD... ;)
What exactly is a clawhammer anyway?
Stu
Hey, I like AMD !!
It's just that Core 2 Duos are better
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Hey Capt. Spencer- don't let Orinoco hear you use an AMD... ;)
What exactly is a clawhammer anyway?
Stu
You tell me!! lol. It's a good CPU though It rarely reaches 100%. I just need more RAM :(
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Do not really know if I should post this here...but I think I am going to:
If i am installing a new graphic card on my PC and the graphic card is PCI-E 16x and my computer have PCI-E 32x.....can i install the card who have PCI-E 16x then?
Sorry I missed this post :-[
From what I can tell (never checked before), PCI-e 32x is basically Dual-PCI-e 16x. This would be used for SLI (Scalable Link Interface), allowing two (yes two ;)) PCI-e 16x cards to be run together ;)
So, you should be fine to buy 1 PCI-e 16x and if you can afford another in the future, get the same type and your PC may just take off :D
Of course, I would also recommend checking this with the supplier, just in case ;)
I hope this answers your question :)
Regards.
DJM.
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Hey, I like AMD !!
It's just that Core 2 Duos are better
Very clever, Orinoco. But not clever enough. Lets not open the intel vs am again, huh?
We all know AMD is far better on a like for like clock speed. Comparing a intel 2 core against an amd single core is NOT a fair comparison >:(
Stu
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I don't wan't to go off-topic but I just got don't agree with something.
Intel dual core is much better than amd dual core, biceaus with an intel processor the 2 cores work together in a one core job (like a game) and with amd just one core of the 2 works in a one core job.
I have an AMD single core beceaus dual core of AMD is sh*t.
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Thank you for answers CaptainSpencer and DJM ;)
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You're welcome :)
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Sorry I missed this post :-[
From what I can tell (never checked before), PCI-e 32x is basically Dual-PCI-e 16x. This would be used for SLI (Scalable Link Interface), allowing two (yes two ;)) PCI-e 16x cards to be run together ;)
So, you should be fine to buy 1 PCI-e 16x and if you can afford another in the future, get the same type and your PC may just take off :D
Of course, I would also recommend checking this with the supplier, just in case ;)
I hope this answers your question :)
Regards.
DJM.
Also make sure you have a beefy PSU (Power Supply Unit) because if you have a underpowered one you may find your PC crashes a lot. In this case get a PSU that has quality not quantity. So for instance look for one that's about 500W and costs around £50 and not one that is £1000W and only about £40. Always check the rails on PSU's. I'm no expert but I've read a lot of reviews and from experience ;)
Thank you for answers CaptainSpencer and DJM ;)
You're very welcome Lanedre ;) :)
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Also make sure you have a beefy PSU (Power Supply Unit) because if you have a underpowered one you may find your PC crashes a lot. In this case get a PSU that has quality not quantity. So for instance look for one that's about 500W and costs around £50 and not one that is £1000W and only about £40. Always check the rails on PSU's. I'm no expert but I've read a lot of reviews and from experience ;)
I fully concur with that statement, from experience with friends/family's PC's ;)
Regards.
DJM.
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I don't wan't to go off-topic but I just got don't agree with something.
Intel dual core is much better than amd dual core, biceaus with an intel processor the 2 cores work together in a one core job (like a game) and with amd just one core of the 2 works in a one core job.
I have an AMD single core beceaus dual core of AMD is sh*t.
Thankyou for that fine scientific explination. I will stick with my AMD, if that's OK. Are you sure that the intel duo uses both cores at once for single programmes?
Stu
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I don't wan't to go off-topic but I just got don't agree with something.
Intel dual core is much better than amd dual core, biceaus with an intel processor the 2 cores work together in a one core job (like a game) and with amd just one core of the 2 works in a one core job.
I have an AMD single core beceaus dual core of AMD is sh*t.
No offence, but I think that judgemtn lacks foundation and merit-I had an athlon uni running at 3ghz b4 getting my dual 2ghz and this one operates much better! Sure intels are better for games, but they are also really expensive for the freqs you get with them.
I think thats a myth, stu-I have used an intel duo 1.8ghz and it acted in just about the same way in all aspects as my amd.
Sky
Edited for language, DJM.
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except for the Nvidia geforce 7300 LE,is too poor for game play.
What wrong with the Nvidia geforce 7300 LE,it wont work or is it just poor graphics??? ???