Ship Simulator
English forum => Development corner => Topic started by: Mad_Fred on January 08, 2009, 16:13:17
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Hi everyone,
Terry and myself, would like to ask you for help with a new project for Ship Simulator, that we have started on.
We intend to create additional content for the game. More precisely, we intend to make navigational aids for the game.
This means (mainly) Buoys, Cardinal Markers, Beacons, Lighthouses/ships/floats, Signs, other Navigational markers, Poles, and so on. We intend to make environment specific objects, to add to the ports in the simulator.
VSTEP has shown a keen interest in this project aswell, and this might end up being a part of future versions of the Simulator. That's what we are aiming for.
As many of our members are directly or indirectly involved with ships, sailing and so on, we figured many of you would have a lot of photographs and other images that might prove useful.
These can be of the specific objects as listed above, or perhaps you have ‘accidentally’ captured a buoy, for example, on a photo of a ship.
Our question is; Who among you have good source material for us to use? And would you be willing to share your photo’s or images with us? We would very much appreciate any input that you may have on this!!
In the long run, we will also be looking at expanding the team, to include more people who are able to model, texture or do research. For now though, we are not recruiting yet, we are in the first phase, setting up procedures and figuring out how to best go about it all.
So do you have any good pictures, on which any of the objects I listed, like buoys, markers, beacons, and so on, are clearly visible, then you can post them in this very topic. And feel free to add any information, if you have any, about any of the posted images.
But a few things we like to make clear;
- We do accept pictures that are not your own, but only if they are free for use, and if you get them from a website, please name the source website.
-If your picture is from a book or other publication, also please name the source
-The same goes for any other source, as long as it is not your own photo, please state where you go it from.
Then we also need to know, of course, where this object is located. It has to be in one of the ports that is in the simulator, OR has to be a generic one that is also used in them. Please state in which environment it goes.
Also, we really need to know which buoy/object it is. Just a list of nameless images would not be much use to us, as you may understand. If you can, try to be as specific as possible about the identity and location of the object.
- Does it have a name? If so, what is it?
- Do you have any latitude/longitude information? If so, please do include that aswell!
- Can you specify the location with a description perhaps, for example; “300m south of 49th pierâ€.
- Do you have any information about lights? Do you know the flash sequence? If so, please tell us.
- If they have different lights in different quadrants, please also inform us about it.
And one more note;
Please try to keep this topic as clean as possible. We want to focus on gathering source material to work from. So post images and information about the objects in those images you might have, but try to avoind random conversation. So if we could stick to that in this topic, and if you could send us any other thoughts, idea's, input or offers of help, in a PM, that would be very much appreciated!! (irrelevant posts may be deleted to keep the topic tidy.)
We’d like to thank you for reading, and also thank you very much in advance, for your input!!
Kind Regards,
Fred & Terry
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Hi Fred/Terry,
Maybe I'm jumping the gun a little here, but once you have some resources together, I'd be more than happy to model a few objects such as lighthouses and bouys.
Like I said, perhaps I'm jumping ahead a little, but the offer is certainly there should you need another hand :)
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Hi Fred,
I caught a missing buoy in Rotterdam, near the gap in the Splitsingsdam in Rotterdam, Europoort:
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/841/splitsingsdamia7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
You can just see it the the starboard side of the Container Vessel.
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Hi Fred,
Just a question, I can quite easily take photo's of the buoys in Fleetwood on my next trip out. But, Are you only looking for buoys that are related to the current environments?
Also, I'd gladly help out with the modelling, once my skills are up to a good enough standard (In your mind)
Jack :)
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Hi Fred,
Just a question, I can quite easily take photo's of the buoys in Fleetwood on my next trip out. But, Are you only looking for buoys that are related to the current environments?
Also, I'd gladly help out with the modelling, once my skills are up to a good enough standard (In your mind)
Jack :)
Hi Jack:
Then we also need to know, of course, where this object is located. It has to be in one of the ports that is in the simulator, OR has to be a generic one that is also used in them. Please state in which environment it goes.
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Hi Jack:
Ah, thanks Nathan, missed that, but, are they generally similar (the buoys) or, are they different in different parts of the world Fred?
Jack.
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Sketchup user, soo i can't ;D
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Yes you can, cause I am too, and I can.. ;)
And yes Jack, there will be a lot of generic ones, that are similar, but there are also many unique and verying ones of course.
But a request people..
We are not yet asking for modelers.. that is the next phase. We are currently in the process of gathering enough material to put modelers to work, so to speak. We allready have a nice library, but the more the merrier.
Some of you clearly have skills that will come in very handy, and you can expect our interest as a result, if you are interested. But for now I would like this topic to be as clear of random conversation as possible, and to focus on pictures and information.
If you are interested about helping out, you can drop me or Terry a PM. There is a certain level of ability needed of course. ;)
We'll get into possible team expansion lateron, for now, please post any pictures with information.
Thanks very much for your input, once again!!!
Regards,
Fred
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Just found this on google images. The associated website points the exact location of the buoy. Hopefully this proves helpful somewhere along the line :)
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8798
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Excellent! Many thanks.
I think I already have that image (or perhaps another shot of it), but I had absolutely no idea where it was located. You've just added the missing bit of the jigsaw puzzle - thanks!
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Just found this on google images. The associated website points the exact location of the buoy. Hopefully this proves helpful somewhere along the line :)
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8798
Just the top, it some wrong parts... Have to fix...
Rendered in dark ::)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/3309yx2.jpg)
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Very nice indeed, J3nsen! ;D
But please don't use this topic for the actual modeling related stuff or showing off of stuff.. We'd like to keep it purely for the research part.
If you want to help us out, then we allready have the proper channels set up to handle the models and file traffic. Just get in touch with one of us, if needs be.
There'll be a time and place for showing off one's work too, I assure you.. hehe.. ;D
Cheers!!! (Thanks for the input btw, CS!!)
Fred
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Yes you can, cause I am too, and I can.. ;)
And yes Jack, there will be a lot of generic ones, that are similar, but there are also many unique and verying ones of course.
But a request people..
We are not yet asking for modelers.. that is the next phase. We are currently in the process of gathering enough material to put modelers to work, so to speak. We allready have a nice library, but the more the merrier.
Some of you clearly have skills that will come in very handy, and you can expect our interest as a result, if you are interested. But for now I would like this topic to be as clear of random conversation as possible, and to focus on pictures and information.
If you are interested about helping out, you can drop me or Terry a PM. There is a certain level of ability needed of course. ;)
We'll get into possible team expansion lateron, for now, please post any pictures with information.
Thanks very much for your input, once again!!!
Regards,
Fred
Hi Fred!
Thanks for your answer, I'll get out there on the boat and get some picture's here for you. If they aren't the particular buoys you are looking for, thats fine ;)
Jack
p.s. thanks for letting us know where we stand as regards to modelling, I'd gladly help with the modelling/info collection, but, I still have a way to go to getting really good modelling skills. But I'm practicing (Like you said :D-almost finished another project, in non SS Projects :)).
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(http://www.cruising.sailingcourse.com/uss-foreign-aton/uss-buoy-green-2.jpg)
(http://www.cruising.sailingcourse.com/uss-foreign-aton/uss-daymark-red-2.jpg)
(http://www.cruising.sailingcourse.com/uss-foreign-aton/uss-red-rock.jpg)
(http://www.cruising.sailingcourse.com/uss-foreign-aton/uss-daymark-red-horse.jpg)
(http://www.cruising.sailingcourse.com/uss-foreign-aton/uss-buoy-x.jpg)
(http://www.cruising.sailingcourse.com/uss-foreign-aton/uss-MoA-Buoy.jpg)
(http://www.thelensflare.com/large/lighthouse_1367.jpg)
Hope you can do something with this :P
Gr,
eggy1991
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There are different buoyages systems, IALA A, IALA B and SIGNI. That last one is in use on the European inland waterways. IALA A and B can be found all over the world, so that's the one we have to focus on. IALA B is used in America and Japan. The IALA A system is used in the rest of the world. At the IALA A system the direction of the buoys is from sea to the harbour, at IALA B it's the opposite.
Within the IALA system, there are lateral buoys and cardinal buoys. A lateral buoy show the side of the fairway. A cardinal buoy shows a reference point, e.g a wreck or a sandbank. At IALA A, the lateral buoys on the right side of the fairway are sharp and green, and on the leftside they are flat and red. Cardinal buoys are black and yellow
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/CardinalMarks.png/350px-CardinalMarks.png)
(picture found on the internet)
The topmark, colour and light character show on which side you have to pass.
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Hi Eggy1991.
Great images.
Could you add some information to your post, per Fred's request above, please?
(1) Name of each bouy.
(2) location (GPS Lat/long etc) of each bouy.
(3), environment of each bouy - happy to receive images for buoys in environments not currently in ship simulator as Vstep are working on a number of new environments.
(2) Source of each image.
Thanks.
We need this information as I need to prioritise the creation of the 3d models for each buoy, one environment at a time.
Once the modellers have created the models, I have to
- add flashing light sequence and colors (e.g. LFL.R(Q)3.10s)
- see if they have a radar reflection signature (many buoys relect radar signals and produce a morse code letter on the radar screen)
- identify their orientation and precise location
- place them in the game and check if everything works correctly
Hi Ballast.
I like the image. But then, I think it's the one I created some years ago for the Admiralty or Trinity House. (Can't recall which, as was some years ago). ;D :laugh:
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Number 27 buoy, River Humber, just east of the Humber Bridge.
I must have loads of pics with buoys in them - but none of them have been scanned as yet!!
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Excellent! Many thanks.
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I can use this thread as an excuse to go to the river now when it's not tide time!!
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Currently, if anyone has any of the following, it would be very useful:
Rotterdam - any buoys, beacons etc, except
AL WIT-ROOD
AL WIT-GROEN
EB-A
EB-B
EB-C
EB-D
NW1
NW2
NW3
NW4
Although I intend to take a watertaxi for a day or two soon and photograph a load of others!
Solent - None needed, thanks. Collection is complete.
Padstow. I only have
BAR
GREENAWAY
So any shots of the others will be most welcome. Especially the light on the eastern side of the entrance.
New York - ANY, PLEASE!
SAN FRANCISCO - ANY, PLEASE!
But please, please let know the location and any other identifying information. Thanks! ;D
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I have some from Dover and Dunkerque, don't know is they would be useful?
The Ferry Man
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You keep suprising me Terry ;D I had to draw them alot during navigation classes.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1040023.jpg)
This is the mid fairway buoy in the Botlek, i made the picture myself. The position according to Google earth would be 51° 53' 33" N 004° 18' 26" E. But then again, i don't know how accurate GE is.
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Thanks Ballast!
Image & location = a winner! ;D
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Hi Terry,
Do you need the co-ordinates of the buoy in my picture or is the location familiar to you/Fred?
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Hi Terry,
Do you need the co-ordinates of the buoy in my picture or is the location familiar to you/Fred?
Hi Nathan.
I can see exactly where that one is, so no need for any co-ordinates.
Ladies & Gentlemen, we have another winner!
Thanks. ;D
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Hi,
That's great then,
I have some more for Rotterdam
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/112/buoy1tr3.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Please Ignore the Blue dots, they are representing pictures. The following co-ordinates are for the buoy closest to the red ship.
51° 58 05.55" N
4° 06' 26.00" E
Near the Bulk Terminal which is In-Game (The Large Most Western Spawnpoint in Rotterdam). Picture as Follows.
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7584/bergestahl4mc1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
As you can see from the Google Earth picture, there are two more buoys. The one in the middle of the group is situated at
51° 58' 08.13" N
4° 06' 23.05" E
And the Most Western buoy is
51° 58' 08.40" N
4° 06' 17.41" E
I hope this is some help to you. (Berge Stahl Picture belongs to me)
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Terry/Fred, are you also interested in mooring buoys like on the picture below? There are plenty of those in Rotterdam. I think they bring value to the game, to complete the whole picture and can be a hughe pain in the butt during manoeuvring.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2rxf7me.jpg)
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I found i nice modelled buoys collection i dont know the types and locations but maybe in the modelling part the pics can be helpfull
http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_details.aspx?id_product=51766
(for the pics scroll down)
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I found i nice modelled buoys collection i dont know the types and locations but maybe in the modelling part the pics can be helpfull
http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_details.aspx?id_product=51766
(for the pics scroll down)
I was in the process of modelling those. Ohh well, time wasted :(
Never mind, I'll find something else to model now...
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Don't know if this will help, but there are some pictures of the buoys near Erasmus in this link (3rd/4th Pic)
http://www.wereldhavendag.com/cruiseschip/
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They are indeed useful. I can/should be able to match them against the charts I have of the harbour.
Thanks! :thumbs:
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(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/cobhc34/boats/detroit%20soo%2008/_DSC0797-1-f.jpg)
rock cut canal marker
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Hi Nin.
Many thanks.
Can you give me the location and/or Ship Simulator Environment it's in?
Thanks.
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Terry/Fred, are you also interested in mooring buoys like on the picture below? There are plenty of those in Rotterdam. I think they bring value to the game, to complete the whole picture and can be a hughe pain in the butt during manoeuvring.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2rxf7me.jpg)
Hi Ballast.
Many appologies! I didn't say thanks for this one. Sorry :'(
It is most useful. Thanks.
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Hi Ballast.
Many appologies! I didn't say thanks for this one. Sorry :'(
It is most useful. Thanks.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but why do they have mooring buoys? Can't you just drop anchor?
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Because you can hit with your anchor an underwater cable, for example, or it's not anchoring place. Those buoys has their "safe" anchors.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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Firestar, this is not a topic for chatter. Fred had a specific request and I expect you to only post if you have something on topic.
I'll erase any further off-topic chatter in this thread. Small Talk is the place to ask such questions.
Thanks.
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Hi Nin.
Many thanks.
Can you give me the location and/or Ship Simulator Environment it's in?
Thanks.
It is in the Lower St Marys river, at the end of the down bound rock cut canal channel
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/cobhc34/boats/detroit%20soo%2008/_DSC0801-1-f.jpg)
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(http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/images/stations/3m.jpg)
Port: San Fransisco
Coordinates: 37.759 N 122.833 W (37°45'32" N 122°50'0" W)
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Hi Austin.
Thanks for that!
It looks a most intersting one to model.
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Hi Ballast.
Many appologies! I didn't say thanks for this one. Sorry :'(
It is most useful. Thanks.
It's ok, i understand you have a busy schedule :)
The position of the buoys on the picture is in Rotterdam, in the '2nd petrolium haven'.
Coordinates of the first buoy (where the vessel on the picture her bowlines are attatched) 51° 53' 14" N 004° 22' 31" E, there is also a 2nd buoy where the coaster attached her sternline to. That buoy is at position 51° 53' 13" N 004° 22' 39" E
If you look closely at GE, you see a lot of these buoys in the Botlek.
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Hi Austin.
Thanks for that!
It looks a most intersting one to model.
It is a weather bouy operated by National Data Buoy Center.
Wind Direction
Wind Speed
Wind Gust
Wave Height
Dominant Wave Period
Average Period
Mean Wave Direction
Atmospheric Pressure
Pressure Tendency
Air Temperature
Water Temperature
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It's ok, i understand you have a busy schedule :)
It wasn't even that. I completely missed your post! Going blind as well as daft...
The position of the buoys on the picture is in Rotterdam, in the '2nd petrolium haven'.
Coordinates of the first buoy (where the vessel on the picture her bowlines are attatched) 51° 53' 14" N 004° 22' 31" E, there is also a 2nd buoy where the coaster attached her sternline to. That buoy is at position 51° 53' 13" N 004° 22' 39" E
If you look closely at GE, you see a lot of these buoys in the Botlek.
OK, many thanks. I've got a very detailed map of Rotterdam, whih includes each of the bbuoys, so once I have some information about locations, it is then usually easy to find the right one. That will help once we start putting them into the simulator.
I plan to go to Rotterdam later in the year (when the weather is nice) and hire a watertaxi for the day, and get close up photos of the various bouys, beacons, lighthouses and markers.
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It wasn't even that. I completely missed your post! Going blind as well as daft...
OK, many thanks. I've got a very detailed map of Rotterdam, whih includes each of the bbuoys, so once I have some information about locations, it is then usually easy to find the right one. That will help once we start putting them into the simulator.
I plan to go to Rotterdam later in the year (when the weather is nice) and hire a watertaxi for the day, and get close up photos of the various bouys, beacons, lighthouses and markers.
Let me know if you want additional information like position and light character. I can easily find it on our ECDIS and various bookworks on the bridge. :) Nice jobs for the boring anchor watches ;D
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Terry,
Are you interested in pictures of mooring posts and RO-RO terminals? I have plenty of pictures from the Beneluxhaven in the west of Rotterdam and I can easily get co-ordinates.
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Hi Nathan.
Hope you're enjoying your holiday!
Yes, all those are most welcome.
Thanks.
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Thanks Terry, yes it's great over here, i'll post the pictures of Rotterdam up next Thursday when i'm back at home.
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Excellent stuff! Looking forward to it.
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Sorry about the short post last time - internet at hotel was about to run out. Thanks for the holiday wishes, it's great over here and tomorrow it's an early start to the day, sailing up the North Coast of Dominican on a catamaran. Anyway, as i said above, i'll post the pictures when i'm back. Currently in the position of the RO-RO Freight terminal in-game (in the Beneluxhaven) the freighter is berthed where the vessel on the right is in this picture i took April 2008:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2662961811_5eb1868350.jpg?v=0
Luckily I uploaded that picture months ago and it's still viewable at that address. The picture is taken from the back of the POR at the P&O terminal. I'll give more images and co-ordinates next Thurs.
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I know this has nothing to do with the current project but this is an idea for another, and also because terry and mad fred are here, so I and several other people think it would be a good Idea to have animatronics in the next game. What I mean is Stuff like opening lock-doors, Sternramps, bowdoors and the classic Bow Viser and you should be able to activate them(open or close them) when you want to (preferably under five knots)
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Excellent!
many thanks.
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I'm not sure if it might help, but i'll place them anyway. Some shots i took from a buoy depot from the Dutch CG, first thing that came up in my mind was the buoy project :P
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000151.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000152-1.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000153.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000154.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000155.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000156.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000157.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000158.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee229/mennojan/P1000159.jpg)
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I saw your photos in the other thread and was going to ask you if you had any other shots. That's most useful, as we can see the lower sections that are usually under water. And there are some good shots of the cardinals as well.
Thanks, indeed!
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Couldnt get inside the depot due ISPS though :'( Let me know if you want them in HR for a closer look!
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Hoy everyone,
A very good idea this is.
I think also to make it a bit easyer,just make one kind of bouy,however give it a different paintjob,this only counts for the "port or starboard"
Do this the same with the "cardinals"
than make the special ones.
To put them on the right spot,we need a real admiral chart.
Make also the entrance of the harbour(s)lights
Marc
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Hi Marc.
Actually, we're making the buoys very realistic. We're also doing the various markers, lighhouses, beacons and transit markers. Plus the radar buoys. That's why Fred and I need pictures of the real things.
We have them for all of the Solent and for some of Rotterdam now. I have a few for New York, but not many others. So, if anyone has photos, please post them.
Thanks.
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Terry
I don't know if you have seen the Trinity House web site, but they have drawings of their light vessels here:
http://www.trinityhouse.co.uk/aids_to_navigation/vessel_drawings.html#
All the lighthouses are detailed too and lots of other good stuff.
Mike
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Hi Mike.
Yes, Trinity House is actually one of my clients in my real life outside of this Forum, and I know that web site well. Loads of interesting and useful info there, isn't there?
Thanks! :thumbs:
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Hi Terry,
The Mersey Bar light float is shown here. This one is also a Racon beacon and from the picture looks as if solar power is utilised for it. When I last sailed past it it was still the manned vessel "Planet". (Second picture)
Angus.
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Thanks Angus.
All I have to do now is to persude Vstep to add Liverpool to the environments, and we'll have somewhere to put it!
But, seriously, it is very similar to the old lightship in Southampton Water, I think (now more of a platform with a light). And also the old Owers Lightship off Selsey Bill. That's just off the edge of the Solent environment, which is a shame. But who knows, it may get extended.
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Hi Terry,
I thought perhaps in thess days of standardisation that it might be a common design.
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Hoy,
O.K.
if you want pics of lighthouses,i have plenty to :lol:
very much plenty ;D
maybe this can help to ???
Marc
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Hi Marc.
Oh, yes!
I have several large books full of pictures of lighthouses and major beacons, but there are so many of them to collect.
Any that you have for any of the environments in SS 2008/Pro will be most welcome indeed.
Thanks.
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Well,most of what i have is from the Brittany coast(France),however i'll do my best to find some more around the English coast.
Maybe people(members) in the near of Marseille can find them overthere.
If anyone feels like it,you all can help us with this matter.
Regards
Marc
i'll keep on searching ;D :D
Marc
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Hello Terry,
Now, you are more interested in pictures, to be able making a choice between comparable lights/buoys in the 3D models prepared by Fred and you? The list and the precision of the "Admiralty Digital List of Lights" is probably sufficient if one looks at the same time at the chart?
Regards,
Luc
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Hi Luc.
Photos of the real things are worth their weight in seaweed to me! Or gold.
If anyone has photos not already posted, of has better ones, please, please! I'd be very grateful if the image is accompanied by the name and/or location of the buoy, so that I can match the picture with the charts.
Thanks!
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I could tell you different types of buoys and what they mean such as yellow = danger I can tell you more if it is helpful
Captain Matt
Terry ttell me if this was helpful if not i can show you pics of buoys
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Hi Matt.
For this project, what I really need are pictures of buoys, beacons, markers, lighthouses from the environments in the Simulator.
I have most of the buoys etc in the Solent region, since if I need one, I just take my boat out from Chichester and go round and photograph it.
I have a number for Rotterdam, but could do with more. I intend to hire a watertaxi for a day or three in the coming months and go round, taking photographs.
But, I don't have many for the other environments. Any photos will be most useful.
P.S. Thanks for the offer of explanation of colours, but we're OK there, I think. :thumbs:
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OK Terry I live 10 mins away frm New York Harbour so I can tell you where and what the buoys are like I coulld also give you pics of them does that help?
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Oh yes!
Pictures of buoys (with something telling me where each one is located) will be very helpful.
My wife comes from just the other side of the water, in Edison, New Jersey, and we go back quite often, but anything you can send will be welcomed.
Thanks.
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Which ports and info are still needed Terry? I'm leaving next week again, can search for info and positions in the various bookworks :)
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well in the morris canal there is a red buoy on the right side and a green one by the old train terminal
These are in the River Itself
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Which ports and info are still needed Terry? I'm leaving next week again, can search for info and positions in the various bookworks :)
Where are you off to?
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Which ports and info are still needed Terry? I'm leaving next week again, can search for info and positions in the various bookworks :)
I've got very detailed maps of all the Ship SImulator environments (large scale Admiralty maps etc), so the name and a rough description of the location will probably be enough for me to find them
Any buoys in Marseille, Hamburg, New York, San Francisco are welcome, because I have almost no photos of them.
Any buoys in Padstow except
GREENAWAY
BAR
(would love a shot of the beacon/lighthouse at the entrance).
Any buoys in Rotterdam except:
SPLISTSINGDAM NEAR EUROPORT (green buoy)
AL WIT-GROEN
AL WIT-ROOD
BOTLEK (mid-channel)
NW1 - NW10
I would love to see images of the other navigation markers as well, in all the environments except the Solent. Piles, rods, poles, perches, beacons, transit markers, lighthouses, etc.
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Roger that Terry. I'll see what i can do. Rotterdam, including Maas Approach, will be no problem. I have my fingers crossed for a visit to Marseille ;)
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That will be cool!
Any chance you could record any radio chatter in Marseille and also sounds from near the helm poistion and other locations on teh ship? (If I don't ask, I don't get!)
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I could do that, if i know how :lol: Holding a mic connected to my laptop near the VHF would be too easy i guess :lol:
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I was able to catch some buoys and channel markers from Maas approach towards the Botlek.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/5odzwz.jpg)
MVN cardinal buoy, position 51 59' 59'' N 004 00' 23'' E
(http://i43.tinypic.com/20rwfp2.jpg)
Maas 1, position 51 59' 38'' N 004 01' 68'' E
(http://i42.tinypic.com/a5m42.jpg)
Maas 3, position 51 59' 12'' N 004 02' 99'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/152nosp.jpg)
Maas 5, position 51 58' 78'' N 004 04' 23'' E
(http://i40.tinypic.com/k9idyx.jpg)
NW 3, position 51 58' 92'' N 004 04' 93'' E
(http://i44.tinypic.com/ie1ldg.jpg)
NW 5, position 51 58' 84'' N 004 05' 26'' E
(http://i43.tinypic.com/309tz47.jpg)
NW 7, position 51 58' 78'' N 004 05' 62'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/mhss3l.jpg)
NW 9, position 51 58' 72'' N 004 05' 94'' E
(http://i43.tinypic.com/wmc07.jpg)
NW 11, position 51 58' 64'' N 004 06' 20'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/142vfh5.jpg)
NW 13, position 51 58' 57'' N 004 06' 50'' E
(http://i44.tinypic.com/r7obk0.jpg)
NW 15, position 51 58' 52'' N 004 06' 76'' E
(http://i43.tinypic.com/29z7z3m.jpg)
NW 17 BD 2, position 51 58' 29'' N 004 07' 39'' E
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2u8jj8j.jpg)
BD 1, 51 58' 21'' N 004 07' 34'' E
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2zxtnd1.jpg)
Platform in position 51 59' 14'' N 004 02' 50'' E
(http://i42.tinypic.com/v5iqlh.jpg)
Guiding lights on the seperation dam between the Nieuwe Waterweg and the Calandcanal. Coming from sea, the true bearing of the lights in line is 107 degrees.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2evqbd2.jpg)
The 'lower' light, in position 51 58' 88'' N 004 04' 88'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1zdt4bn.jpg)
The upper aft light, in position 51' 58' 65'' N 004 05' 80'' E
The red buoys and the fixed channel markers from the Maeslandkeering towards the Botlek entrance will follow later!!
EDIT: Added the NW 11 and NW 13 afterall :P
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Those are excellent!.
I had shots of some of them, but nowhere near as good quality.
Thanks :thumbs:
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/2hyuvc4.jpg)
Platform on the northern breakwaters, position 51 59' 66'' N 004 02' 84'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2uigdg1.jpg)
Maas 2, position 51 59' 46'' N 004 03' 60'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/vpf9ci.jpg)
Maas 4, position 51 59' 29'' N 004 04' 38'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/5ph3d4.jpg)
NW 2, position 51 59' 13'' N 004 05' 05'' E
(http://i42.tinypic.com/17fvgx.jpg)
NW 4, position 51 58' 98'' N 004 05' 81'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/sxzreg.jpg)
NW 6, position 51 58' 82'' N 004 06' 54'' E
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2n9me4j.jpg)
Leading lights and lighthouse at Hoek van Holland
(http://i44.tinypic.com/scz68g.jpg)
The lower light, position 51 58' 55'' N 004 07' 53'' E
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1zmyszr.jpg)
The aft leading light in position 51 58' 48'' N 004 07' 90'' E, lighthouse is in position 51 58' 49'' N 004 07' 98'' E
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1yvpe1.jpg)
CA 2 - NW 1, positon 51 59' 00'' N 004 04' 40'' E
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Thanks!
The platforms are the AL WIT GROEN and ROOD aren't they? These shots are great, as they give me some different angles to the ones I had here.
And the angle of the transit line on the leading lights was exactly what I needed! Thanks again. :2thumbs: :thumbs: :2thumbs:
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Yeah the platforms have the same colours as the buoys, 'red to port'. Except the leading lights on the splitsingsdam, they are black and white.
Fixed channel markers from the Hoek towards the entrance of the 3rd petroleum haven at the Botlek (where the white-red mid fairway buoy is)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/rmnp6h.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2igm0jd.jpg)
All markers are the same, except the markers on the Maeslandkeering (the flood barrier).
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2yowhp2.jpg)
One of the channel markers on the Maeslandkeering.
Positions:
Green channel markers
1 51 58’ 12’’ N 004 07’ 86’’E
3 51 57’ 83’’ N 004 08’ 57’’ E
5 51 57’ 60’’ N 004 08’ 96’’ E
7 51 57’ 27’’ N 004 09’ 60’’ E
9 51 57’ 13’’ N 004 09’ 86’’ E
11 51 57’ 75’’ N 004 10’ 57’’ E
13 51 56’ 50’’ N 004 11’ 23’’ E
15 51 56’ 28’’ N 004 11’ 90’’ E buoy
17 51 56’ 00’’ N 004 12’ 59’’ E
19 51 55’ 80’’ N 004 12’ 97’’ E
21 51 55’ 57’’ N 004 13’ 31’’ E
23 51 55’ 35’’ N 004 13’ 61’’ E
25 51 55’ 11’’ N 004 13’ 96’’ E
27 51 54’ 90’’ N 004 14’ 29’’ E buoy
29 51 54’ 65’’ N 004 14’ 87’’ E
31 51 54’ 42’’ N 004 15’ 43’’ E
35 51 54’ 00’’ N 004 16’ 47’’ E
37 51 53’ 79’’ N 004 17’ 23’’ E
NW 21 51 56’ 17’’ N 004 12’ 14’’ E buoy
Red channel markers
2 51 58’ 05’’ N 004 08’ 68’’ E
4 51 57’ 75’’ N 004 09’ 18’’ E
6 51 57’41’’ N 004 09’ 80’’ E
8 51 57’ 29’’ N 004 10’ 06’’ E
10 51 56’ 94’’ N 004 10’ 77’’ E
12 51 56’ 66’’ N 004 11’ 41’’ E
14 51 56’ 47’’ N 004 11’ 96’’ E
16 51 56’ 28’’ N 004 12’ 50’’ E
18 51 56’ 08’’ N 004 13’ 08’’ E
20 51 55’ 90’’ N 004 13’ 39’’ E
22 51 55’ 68’’ N 004 13’ 65’’ E
24 51 55’ 34’’ N 004 14’ 01’’ E
26 51 55’ 16’’ N 004 14’ 28’’ E
28 51 54’ 98’’ N 004 14’ 60’’ E
30 51 54’ 86’’ N 004 14’ 86’’ E
32 51 54’ 68’’ N 004 15’ 31’’ E
34 51 54’ 48’’ N 004 16’ 30’’ E
36 51 54’ 30’’ N 004 16’ 30’’ E
38 51 54’00’’ N 004 17’ 23’’ E
NW 6A 51 57’ 69’’ N 004 09’ 30’’ E buoy
The buoys are the standard buoys used by the Dutch Authorities, like the NW and Maas buoys in my previous post.
Terry, did you make a trip yet with a water taxi down the river in Rotterdam? Let me know, im in Rotterdam next week!
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I'm going to be in Rotterdam on Sunday 7th - Tuesday 9th.
I'll try to make that trip on the Tuesday morning, but I may have to book another trip just for that in a few week's time.
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Now, the conversation that Ballast and I have just had is AMAZING!
We are both staying at the same hotel at the same time next week. What are the chances of THAT!
:2thumbs: :thumbs: ;D :) :2thumbs:
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Talk about luck! Have a good time guys ;D
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wow, that's weird, have a good time in the bar or where ever you decide to go :)
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Now, the conversation that Ballast and I have just had is AMAZING!
We are both staying at the same hotel at the same time next week. What are the chances of THAT!
:2thumbs: :thumbs: ;D :) :2thumbs:
Not a betting person but unlikely!
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It is all the more amazing because I had only rescheduled it a couple of days ago, as a result of a Client asking me to change the date of my visit to them.
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Still wanting more pictures? I'm going to the Isle of Man in August so I can get some pictures of the buoys on the Mersey if you want
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Thanks for the offer, Tractorman. :thumbs:
But at the moment, so far as I know, Vstep aren't putting the Mersey into Ship Simulator. I need buoys, markers, rods, poles, perches, lighthouses, transit markers, cardinals, safe passage, dangerous water water markers for environments in Ship Simulator.
If anyone is going near Dover, I could do with some shots.
Also:
New York
San Francisco
Marseille
Hamburg
Padstow
Phi Phi
Sydney
would be most welcome.
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When I was crossing from Dover to Dunkerque I remembered the topic and tried to get some pictures for you, but the weather was rubbish :(
When I get the ferry to Dover next i'll try get you some pictures :thumbs:
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Thanks, Nathan.
I may get in the car and drive over to Dover (sheer poetry) at some time, but then again, I may not have enough time.
I also hope to get to Hamburg soon, but I will probably be recording radio sounds, rather than photographing buoys.
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Thanks for the offer, Tractorman. :thumbs:
But at the moment, so far as I know, Vstep aren't putting the Mersey into Ship Simulator. I need buoys, markers, rods, poles, perches, lighthouses, transit markers, cardinals, safe passage, dangerous water water markers for environments in Ship Simulator.
If anyone is going near Dover, I could do with some shots.
Also:
New York
San Francisco
Marseille
Hamburg
Padstow
Phi Phi
Sydney
would be most welcome.
Dover eh...
Could this imply that Dover may be in SS2010...
I will have a look through my vast collection of pics from Dover, see if I have anything useful...
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It is all the more amazing because I had only rescheduled it a couple of days ago, as a result of a Client asking me to change the date of my visit to them.
I was talking to my Captain about staying on board and rescheduling my training course to a later date because im in quite a hurry to get my sea service days so i can sign on as 2nd officer.
Glad we didnt pulled it through :lol:
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Not sure if these are useful...?
SW Goodwin buoy:
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/100_3309.jpg)
Far off shot showing location of following two buoys:
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/DSC_0367.jpg)
Buoy 1:
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/DSC_6023.jpg)
Buoy 2:
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/DSC_7171.jpg)
Another Dover buoy, this one is near the Prince of Wales Pier:
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/DSC_0510.jpg)
Misc Buoys:
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/DSC_6023.jpg)
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/DSC_7243.jpg)
Not sure how relevant, the Port Control Tower and entrance lights:
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/Ports/Dover/DSC_7232.jpg)
Any other Dover stuff, just ask, and I will be happy to have a look
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That's great, thanks! :thumbs: I can look up exact GPS/Lat-Long postions on my charts.
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There is also a buoy nr the Western Entrance, which marks a ship wreck inside the harbour, Missed that one (I never realised I had a pic of her):
(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww134/The-Ferry-Man/DSC_0573.jpg)
Of course, when Terminal 2 is built, all this will change - the wreck is really needed to be moved for the ferry terminal to have the best possible access/manoeuvrability for the ferries.
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Of course, they may just take the easy option and fit the new style wreck marker...
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They could do, but they was discussing about if was in a poor position to manouvre into some of the planned berths; They want to take her outside the Harbour, I think...
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i go sailing at bala lake in north wales should i bother getting pictures or not? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Hi Fast_Ferry, and welcome.
Thanks for the offer, but I can only use buoys that are in environments in Ship Simulator. I've got nowhere to stick them otherwise. (No rude comments! :evil:)
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Oh well, we can scratch Bala Lake, North Wales off the list of environments for SS2010...
But Dover isn't in SS2008... ::)
I don't supoose you may want buoys from say...? Calais...? (Starts praying for a yes... :angel:)
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Pity, I was looking forward to meeting Titanic on a Welsh lake!!
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Thanks.
I'll see if I can work out which one that is. :thumbs:
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I hope the developers will understand that the lights of those buoys have visibility of tens of kilometers in the night.
In Shipsim 2008 you can see buoys-lights about 300 meters away...
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The developer responsible for the buoyage system understands that very well. Trust me. ;) :evil:
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Wait, I have a serious question. Are you guys interested in light ships? ???
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It depends on where's the ship located.
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Wait, I have a serious question. Are you guys interested in light ships? ???
Yes but I prefer free laptops
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::) If your interested in a light ship...no one inparticualr I can get loads of pics cause one is docked permantly in the marina where I work at so I can get a million pics if you wanted :2thumbs:
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hey, i found this image it might be cool for the game... it's like a weather bouy type deal, theres 3
http://www.oceanor.no/grfx/buoys_small.jpg
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Some more buoys in the Europoort... i assume the buoy project is still in progress.
(http://i31.tinypic.com/a2rjgm.jpg)
Maas 5 51 58' 78" N 004 04' 22" E
(http://i27.tinypic.com/m9rseu.jpg)
B1 51 58' 66" N 004 04' 60" E
(http://i25.tinypic.com/143gppj.jpg)
B3 51 58' 41" N 004 04' 92" E
(http://i29.tinypic.com/jfuurm.jpg)
B5 51 58' 13" N 004 05' 09" E
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2drs7qu.jpg)
B7 51 57' 85" N 004 04' 86" E
(http://i25.tinypic.com/23rafc.jpg)
Yellow buoy with "Lyondell" written on it, 51 57' 81" N 004 02' 00" E
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What about speedlimits in narrow and welltrafficked waters? In the port for example...
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Hoy everyone,
I have taken pics also in the area of Rotterdam,i will send them to Fred or Terry in a few days.
Marc
P.S.durring wintertime i dont take my camera with me to Rotterdam,when i arrive there,it's al the time to late in the afthernoon to take pics from something.mostly it will be dark when i'm able to take pics.
Marc
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Which buoys do you have Marc? If needed, i can look up the latitude and longitude of the buoys! Maybe we can also make a list of buoys we already have, then we know on which buoys we still need to focus us ;D
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Erm...there is a list.
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O.K.
I am not sure if you are familiar to the area.
I took the red/green on the Breediep,and than i went to 4580(close to Rozenburg).Next to the Steinweg,you a small parking spot on the side of the river Maas.
These are not bouy's in that area,however some posts(standaards) green color.
I hope this helps a bit,however i can send them to you to.Send you're Emailadres to me and i help you further with alot of pleasure.
Marc
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Hi Marc and Ballast.
Many thanks, chaps.
Yes, I am still collecting images (especially) and general data for buoys in any of the Ship Sim environments.
Do you both have accounts on Creators Forum? If so, send me your account names in a PM and I will switch on access to the buoyage areas for you. Then you can see which ones I don't have.
If you don't have an account, please create one and let me know. Then I will switch on that access for you.
I am off to the Netherlands tomorrow for a few days (Bussum area), but should be able to set things up for you.
I think you both have my email address if you want to send me any images, don't you?
Thanks :thumbs:
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Hello Tery/Fred
I have a sugestion can you add enviroment if so can you add the misissipi river it is in the U.S.A.
its located near illinoise, missuri these are states im naming by the way it starts in michagen or wisonsen i cant remember and ends in lousiana if you can or cant add this let me know
Regards
Cole
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Try putting suggestions in the suggestions area ;)
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well its all the info i have
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well its all the info i have
Yes but this is just a project about buoys...
not locations
sorry
(try here http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6837.625.html)
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Hello Tery/Fred
I have a sugestion can you add enviroment if so can you add the misissipi river it is in the U.S.A.
its located near illinoise, missuri these are states im naming by the way it starts in michagen or wisonsen i cant remember and ends in lousiana if you can or cant add this let me know
Regards
Cole
Priceless!!
:doh: :doh: :doh:
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I'm going to open up the buoyage area on Creators Forum so that mission creators can see exactly where the buoys are located, and so that they can see all of the photos and data that has been collected about each buoy.
Although you can't use the models that people such as Fred have created (excellent models, incidentally), you can at least place the "built-in" AI buoys into the correct locations.
That will add to the realism of the game, I think.
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Here is my idee too a project. The ferrys name is Prinsesse Benedikte and have four Thrusters
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Here is my idee too a project. The ferrys name is Prinsesse Benedikte and have four Thrusters
This topic is for the bouy project, not for suggesting vessels!
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Yes but this is just a project about buoys...
not locations
sorry
(try here http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6837.625.html)
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(http://i38.tinypic.com/207rpfn.jpg)
Anonymous bouy :doh:
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Any idea which area it came from?
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Hi guys. I'm going out to NYC for a few days on the boat. Since I'm pretty shallow draft, I can get pretty close to almost everything. If you'd like, Terry, PM me a list of the main items you'd like, and I'll try to get the pictures, and gps coordinates. Otherwise, I'll be snapping pictures of every No Wake buoy in existence, and the wife will kill me. :evil: Talk to everyone later.....
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Any idea which area it came from?
It was drifting in the gulf of Cadiz. Captain grabbed the oppertunity for a MOB drill and let the crew practise a Williamson turn. We pulled it on deck to hand it over to the authorities, but the buoy doenst have any characteristics. Who knows where it comes from!
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Who knows where it comes from!
I guess "out of the sea" is the only answer. Good idea for the MOB drill! :thumbs:
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Hi Terry,
I have several pictures of buoys in the Solent outside Portsmouth harbour. If you are interested I will send them to you. I was on one of QHM's pilot boats checking the positions of the buoys and snapped a few pictures.
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hi there
why not to add a Single Point mooring (Monobouy)?
they are used to load and unload motor tankers with crude oil and refined products
it would give a great misson on game
i am a tugboat master at leixoes monobouy (portugal)
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http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/server/show/conMediaFile.147/Two-buoys-at-the-main-gate-of-the-National-Maritime-Museum.html
http://www.visitmyharbour.com/harbours/solent/cowes-marinas/charts.asp?cattype=7
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could you also add random buoys that could be long lines etc
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Hi all,
I was reading this thread and thought how easy it would be to get better details, like Lat & Longs for the area's needed by using a simple App on a smartphone.
I use Navionics UK & Holland App from my Android Galaxy SII and the details on there would be spot on for your needs, as it gives Lat & Longs, along with detials of the bouy or marker on a chart.
Hope this helps out?
Let me know.
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Hello Terry and the rest of you on developments.
It would be much more fun and I am sure you could do more eveighets mission, though it did have its own fleet and we sailed to ports where loading and unloaded ships. And a major update of crane simulator ship simulator could make it a more global game. And even hear with rights to use DFDS ship Maersk and other shipping in the game. Add more European ports such gothenburg skandia terminal now owned by APM terminals.
Sincerely Magsnusk
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Hi guys, is that project still alive? Long time no post here. Happy to share some thoughts about more realistic beaconing and buoyining in the game. Although I've no idea how to program that stuff I would very much like to give some input in how that works in "real life" in my home base area here in Hamburg.