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English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => Topic started by: Titanic ship of dreams on September 15, 2007, 19:00:19

Title: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Titanic ship of dreams on September 15, 2007, 19:00:19
i have just got the game but i cant find any icebegrs in free roaming....any one who knows about this??
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: bowie on September 15, 2007, 19:56:01
no you will have to download the patch if you want them in the game  ;)
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: saken41 on September 15, 2007, 21:29:29
Use the Mission Editor to add icebergs ;).
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Titanic ship of dreams on September 16, 2007, 15:11:38
but i dont want the 1.1 version because the titanic turns too much there
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Mr Robville on September 16, 2007, 15:36:36
what do you mean?
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Titanic ship of dreams on September 17, 2007, 14:47:00
in the patch the Titanic turns too much and too fast...
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Fredriksen on September 17, 2007, 15:06:29
I now what you mean, Titanic ship of dreams.
After I installed the patch, Titanic turns like a speed boat and start to tilt.

Before the patch, people wantet Titanic to respond and turn faster, but I think this is making it more unrealistic. We are talking about a big steam ship from 1912, not a speed boat..

Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Mr Robville on September 17, 2007, 15:21:39
well, yu guys are never happy :(
first titanic have to be faster like SS2006 and now it is that speed and it's again not good :o
''better fast than slow''
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Titanic ship of dreams on September 17, 2007, 15:27:24
t mind the speed but the "turning" its unrealistic and its not fun to play a game where you dont feel saticfied
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Britannic on September 17, 2007, 18:11:39
Oh for **** sake, guys-look at lusitania-she turned at about 90 deg a minute. She tilted. Hell even Britannic did after she had that exstenion put on her rudder. anyway, you want to turn slower, dont turn the helm too much! Simple. ;)

Sky.


Edited for a variation on language, DJM.
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Fredriksen on September 18, 2007, 19:42:40
Oh for **** sake, guys-look at lusitania-she turned at about 90 deg a minute. She tilted. Hell even Britannic did after she had that exstenion put on her rudder. anyway, you want to turn slower, dont turn the helm too much! Simple. ;)

Sky.


Edited for a variation on language, DJM.

I dont know how Titanic turned or tilted in real life, but I think she tilts to mutch after the patch...but maybe i'm wrong.  ???
I just want it to be realistic, thats all.  8)

Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Titanic ship of dreams on September 18, 2007, 22:00:00
yes you are right
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: LucAtC on September 18, 2007, 22:20:24
Hello,
Having made some trials of rotation of Titanic, full rudder, the speed settled to appr. 14.2 kts (some 7.30 m/s), and the rate of turn became stable at 58°/min (6 min and 20 s for a full turn), that means a tactical diameter of some 3.4 lengths, 880m.
I think having read it was 3850ft (1173m), so she turns indeed somewhat (1/3) too quickly, perhaps is it due to a rudder angle of 45° instead of 35°?
Regards,
Luc
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: clanky on September 19, 2007, 17:24:32
I think that is a very good point Luc.  Many ships, even modern ones do not have rudders which go to 45 degrees and of those which do many of them are blocked to lower angles depending on speed.

If a ship was travelling at full sea speed and 45 degrees of rudder were applied she would be on her beam ends.
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: umytbnext on September 19, 2007, 19:33:28
If you want it to turn slower and more realistic, just give it LESS RUDDER!!!  Problem solved!  Full rudder deflection was probably rarely done on the real Titanic (except perhaps one instance).  Why do you want to ram it "all over" and see a 15 degree per minute turn?  While it may be a developer issue that full deflection gives an unrealistic turn rate, it's ultimately up to you to control your ship. 

Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Alex201 on October 19, 2007, 14:28:02
I think that is a very good point Luc.  Many ships, even modern ones do not have rudders which go to 45 degrees and of those which do many of them are blocked to lower angles depending on speed.

If a ship was travelling at full sea speed and 45 degrees of rudder were applied she would be on her beam ends.

30 - 35 degrees is the most effective in real life. If you go further ( for example 45 degrees) you're just slowing down the ship instead of turning.
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: Tug Master on March 27, 2008, 10:58:10
This topic should be called turning of ships not icebergs

spelling edit
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: mvsmith on March 27, 2008, 17:19:50
If you had looked at the dates, you might have noticed that it is a very old topic. Why dredge it up again just to make an inane comment?
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: yuh93 on March 30, 2008, 06:29:59
I can if i want
Title: Re: icebergs in free roaming??
Post by: RMS Gigantic on March 30, 2008, 09:55:38
Oh for **** sake, guys-look at lusitania-she turned at about 90 deg a minute. She tilted. Hell even Britannic did after she had that exstenion put on her rudder. anyway, you want to turn slower, dont turn the helm too much! Simple. ;)

Sky.


Edited for a variation on language, DJM.
Screenname occurance:

(mine) ----------------------------------> (yours)
RMS Gigantic ---> RMS Britannic ---> HMHS Britannic



We still need someone to get the screenname RMS Olympic!

RMS Olympic --
RMS Titanic -- R.M.S. TITANIC
RMS Gigantic/HMHS Biritannic -- RMS Gigantic / Britannic