Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: AriesDW on May 03, 2007, 20:11:17
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Being that Titanic was a vessel that was the "flagship" which gathered a lot of attention to SS2006 I was thinking either of the two vessels would certainly help grip a lot of consumer attention as well as meet a lot of consumer demands . . .
SS Normandie
Queen Mary 2
I foresee Normandie legally being easier to pull off, however, more people would be very interesed in in buying a product that allows them to run around in the QM2 or equivalent.
Thoughts anyone?
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QM2 gets my vote!
However, my favourite ships on the seas remain P&O's fleet, especially Oriana.
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QM2 gets my vote!
However, my favourite ships on the seas remain P&O's fleet, especially Oriana.
QM2 and Royal Caribbean ship Freedom of the Seas for me. ;D
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Queen Mary 2 sounds nice if this becomes a ship model with the same polygon size as Titanic (800 000 polygons or something like that). I think that many people knows the QM2 in some way and it will probably give a lot more attention to the game if she becomes the flagship wahetever version of Ship Simulator we are talking about. ;D
Anyway I’m afraid that this copyright and policy crap according to ship owners will force the one that make the ship model to make a fictional delivery of here, hopefully very close to the real QM2 just with another name and all that stuff. :-\
That’s my thoughts and experience about the case ;)
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Yes, copyrights will be a concern - hence why I was mentioned another famous, older vessel which copyrights are not such a major issue.
Freedom of the Seas and QM2 tie for me as well . . . They would be a awesome but would present SOME legal issues.
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I Would also prefer to see the QM2 or the Freedom of Seas, But maybe it is an option to put the emma mearsk on it from MEARSK cargo !.
Allright copyrights but what about P&O ? There is no copyright ?
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QM2 would be my preference, I just hope that Cunnard (they are the ones that run it aren't they) will be willing to let it be in the game.
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QM2 would be my preference, I just hope that Cunnard (they are the ones that run it aren't they) will be willing to let it be in the game.
Yes. It would be nice if Cunard agreed!
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Yes, Cunard does in fact operate and in part are the owners of QM2 - which are part of the Carnival Cruises Corporation. I would think that they would be interested in this, knowing that QM2 has not been doing well in sales as well as the media. She has had several incidents on board between crew members as well as that accident over a year ago where she ripped off an azipod in the Gulf of Mexico. I am on the Cunard mailing list and they are always running specials by me, trying to get my to buy a pair of tickets . . . I worry she is just too costly and not enough "cruise ship style fun" to get people on board. I have heard both great and terrible things about cruising on QM2 - I was hoping to buy a pair of tickets this summer and cruise to Europe and see what she's like in her real element - open ocean.
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Allright copyrights but what about P&O ? There is no copyright ?
Oh, there is, by no doubt . . . I would not think a Ferry company would be aas . . . tight about the matter as the cruiselines - however, I hear Destination Gotland ferries are pretty tough to deal with, so P&O with their reputation might be hard to deal with as well.
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Greetings,
Infact,it seems that every company is hard to deal with.
However,i believe they could participate,in something very nice.This game has something to do in maritime circles,or do i see this completly wrong.
I wish they will review their points,if we could atleast 1 company,to start with.
Regards
Marc
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I think for me would be a large tanker.
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I think for me would be a large tanker.
Interesting selection. Anyone in particular?
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As a flagship with a great emotional content, and a smaller copyright concern, why not the SS United States? It still exists, has PR and true Blue Ribbon (I think).
I would prefer the Euronav newly acquired TI Asia, but it is also sentimental (well, a friend becomes chief); an impressive ULCC!
Regards
Luc
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SS United States would certainly be a good idea. Their organization probably would want to team up with us similar to those tug organizations last year. Also, she does have an impressive 38.86 knot top speed and the former winner of a blue ribbon! Sadly, I think she is terribly ugly . . . . However, she would get some people excited and for US buyers there is a sense of patriotism in it . . . Of course I think that word is a bit over used lately.
I would rather see the old, massive Normandie or the Original big girl herself, the RMS Queen Elizabeth. Now that will get both UK buyers and old oceanliner buyers right off the bat!
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QM2 has not been doing well in sales as well as the media.
It's seems like the QM2 was built to be some sort of modern day Titanic in terms of grandeur and luxury, but in doing so Cunard (and whoever the other owners are) have put her out of reach of the modern day cruise ship market. They forgot that the Titanic and other luxury liners were so successful because it was the only way to get from Europe to America, now most people (especially wealthy ones) would rather step on to a 747 and spend more time at their destination than actually travelling to it. It's sad really.
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Yes - it is very, very true . . . . They also need to realize that cruising is not a elitist thing like it was in the past. a tooo grand and opulant a vessel will do not as well in sales as a comfortable, attractive, enjoyable vessel.
However, yes, I think some rethinking on the part of Cunard and Carnival Cruises International need to be made in order for the ship to survive.
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Personally, as a fan of older ships I think maybe the Andrea Doria from 1953 or the Normandie would be that bigger attraction cus if you think about it. People can still walk the QM2 normally and same with the Freedom of the Seas but can you do that with the Normandie? No, cus she is probably part of your car by now. And for the Andrea Doria, she was a trendsetter just like the Normandie. And the Andrea Doria is a smaller ship than all of the others(QM2 1,147. Normandie 1,028. Andrea Doria 700) she would be easier to make.
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I am definately for both ships. However, I highly prefer SS Normandie.
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hey
the qm2 ha pritty cool but it would be realy cool with the sister ship of the titanic the hmhs britannic.
but if the qm2 is also in the game i would also buy him! ::)
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The britanic would be easy to make but I think people might think Ship Sim was too lazy to make another ship so they altered the Titanic to look like the Britanic. I think a ship that had more popularity shuold be used
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Good day to you all,
I just signed in and what i've seen so far and I have great admirering for all those people who takes there time to build these ships.
I found this one: http://www.shipparade.com/cruise%20reviews/MSC_Musica/MSC%20Musica.htm but not easy to build i think ?
keep up to good work,
Greetings Coen
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That might be a good boat to put in the game it's new and I love it but I think that maybe more famous boats mught be added and historic ones as I think the game needs to appeal to everyone's taste. ;) Whether it is historic or just plain huge cruise ships!!
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Whatever we use it needs to be iconic and well known within the maritime & maritime-fan communities. That is why I am asking for something either current and popular or something older and legendary.
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I just signed in and what i've seen so far and I have great admirering for all those people who takes there time to build these ships.
I like it! But I think that would be better for an add-on. I think we should go with somthing chic, somthing big, somthing like Freedom of the seas, QM2, Queen Mary(1st),... 1960's. Italian Lines 2 super ships! Michelangelo and the Raffaello! Insted of ONE flag ship, how about these two ships or someothers
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As much as I like this class of vessel, I do not think they have enough historical recognition or game, as does the Queen Mary, the Queen Elizabeth, Titanic, or even the Normandie . . .
One reason I keep pressing for the Queen Elizabeth or the Normandie is they are both major icons that ship fans have heard of. I personally favor the Normandie out of the two because she does have a bit of a futuristic appearance, with her sleak, minimalistic, chic body style . . . I think in terms of exterior she does a better job of holding her appearances with modern, present day vessels than any of the US Lines or Cunard vessels.
Here is an interior shot of her bridge, her exterior, and a link to a page that briefly describes her.
http://www.geocities.com/swsodspickly/normandie.html
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I agree with you, if any ship should be the next flag ship it should be the Normandie. But if not I think the Andrea Doria would do just as well
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A long long time ago, in a ocean not too far away, the SS United States was the most shining cruise liner on the North Atlantic, and as young boys (well, already older than some...), we followed her crossings with enthusiasm.
Normandie had suffered a sad fate in New York together with a dubious reputation, because it had been seized by the US, desacring her. The SS United States was competing with the Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth, (Queen Mother, not Queen Elizabeth I).
Queen Elizabeth was surely the biggest, but the quickest was the SS United States, small, but nicier, more modern and not so snob with her 2 funnels. In these days, speed was more important than size, and nationalism was not at its highest.
If it pleases you more, I support the Queen Elizabeth, while regretting that the SS United States disappeared from the memories.
Regards,
Luc
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Luc;
I have had always great enthusiasm for the SS United States. As a matter of fact, I coordinated with the government to try to put together a non profit to rescue the fine ship, but was thwarted by her now former owners. True, the SS United States gleamed of national pride, speed, and technological ability not found in other liners . . . However, I have to say that I feel she lacks the glamour and excitement of some of her larger counter-parts. She is from an era where liners got slimmer and lower to the water, and faster. She was unique in all senses, however, I just cannot look to her as one of the queens of the Ocean Liner era. She was, however, far superior to many other out there at the time. ;)
I hope to see her come into the game someday, though. It would be fun to take her to her record breaking speed of 38.86 knots - when she stole the blue ribbon from the Rex. ;D
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A long long time ago, in a ocean not too far away, the SS United States was the most shining cruise liner on the North Atlantic, and as young boys (well, already older than some...), we followed her crossings with enthusiasm.
Normandie had suffered a sad fate in New York together with a dubious reputation, because it had been seized by the US, desacring her. The SS United States was competing with the Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth, (Queen Mother, not Queen Elizabeth I).
Queen Elizabeth was surely the biggest, but the quickest was the SS United States, small, but nicier, more modern and not so snob with her 2 funnels. In these days, speed was more important than size, and nationalism was not at its highest.
If it pleases you more, I support the Queen Elizabeth, while regretting that the SS United States disappeared from the memories.
Regards,
Luc
I went throught my mind and the S.S. United States passed without myself seeing it. That is another ship that would just be perfect to pick