Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => Topic started by: rjwhyte09 on August 30, 2010, 09:34:39
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Hi iv been playing sse and there is alot of new ship like coast gaurd ship but the only thing that made me buy the 2008 one was it had TITANIC in it and now there is no titanic why :thumbdown:
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Wanna sail into a iceberg now do we ? :P
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Well, at least they got something right... Keeping that rusty wreck out of it.
No doubt it will appear later on as an add on...
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Well, at least they got something right... Keeping that rusty wreck out of it.
No doubt it will appear later on as an add on...
For every 1 more ship in any ss series they need days or weeks to make and hours and hours of testing
every hole has to be correct even if it 1cm wide
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Hi iv been playing sse and there is alot of new ship like coast gaurd ship but the only thing that made me buy the 2008 one was it had TITANIC in it and now there is no titanic why :thumbdown:
They wanted to keep it realistic... and in reality that ship lies on the bottom of the ocean..
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By looking at the shiplist someone posted earlier here for SSE its only 1 ship that I really miss, both in SS2008 and SSE.
It's the big luxury yacht from SS2006, I really hope will see her again...
(http://www.gamezone.com/images/gamezone/29/3/70/s29370_pc_4.jpg)
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Why the Titanic hatred?
I think it'd be great to see how an old school ocean liner would handle the new physics engine :)
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I don’t think that it is hatred for the ship, but rather irritation toward the Titanic lovers who seem to think that the simulator is all about that one ship. Few of them actually sail her in any seamanlike way, or write meaningful missions for her.
Technically she is a problem because of her very high poly count, which generates many complaints about her not being displayed on lower-end systems.
I enjoy operating her in ’08, and have written one of the few missions specifically to tax the ability of players to navigate her.
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She is intended to be added later on. Just be patient.
I love the Titanic, and it is the reason I started using shipsim, but then I got to using the other vessels, and I really started getting into it. I have really high specs on my pc too, so the graphics look awesome. Can't wait for the mission editor and Titanic so that I can have several boats sailing around her in the harbor.
This also raises a question, will sse have the unlockable free roam camera as did ss08?
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By looking at the shiplist someone posted earlier here for SSE its only 1 ship that I really miss, both in SS2008 and SSE.
It's the big luxury yacht from SS2006, I really hope will see her again...
(http://www.gamezone.com/images/gamezone/29/3/70/s29370_pc_4.jpg)
Finnally!!!
someone who wants the SS06 yacht in SSE :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
I hope too this yacht soon in an addon :thumbs:
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+1 for the yacht, that was a very nice one indeed :)
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I don’t think that it is hatred for the ship, but rather irritation toward the Titanic lovers who seem to think that the simulator is all about that one ship. Few of them actually sail her in any seamanlike way, or write meaningful missions for her.
Technically she is a problem because of her very high poly count, which generates many complaints about her not being displayed on lower-end systems.
I enjoy operating her in ’08, and have written one of the few missions specifically to tax the ability of players to navigate her.
IMHO that ship puts you to the test with its handling charecteristics, and i love the challenge of a no tug ... especially in tight slips.
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By looking at the shiplist someone posted earlier here for SSE its only 1 ship that I really miss, both in SS2008 and SSE.
It's the big luxury yacht from SS2006, I really hope will see her again...
(http://www.gamezone.com/images/gamezone/29/3/70/s29370_pc_4.jpg)
Yeah, I really love those big yachts. Marbella Delight just doesn't cut it :(
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and have written one of the few missions specifically to tax the ability of players to navigate her.
Hi Marty,
I started to take an interest towards Titanic when I got my new system, as I thought it was a wonderful model on high graphics, and because she was generally enjoyable to sail. I've always had an interest in her too...it probably sparked my interest in shipping from an early age.
I'm interested in the missions you've made - where can I download them from?
Thanks,
Jack :)
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Hi Jack,
Titanic 2 is still in Play > Custom missions. It was written a while ago, before Titanic’s dynamics were changed, so some meetings don’t happen exactly as planned. The mission was designed to be run at Ahead Full except in the fifth (NY) environment. Running time is about 4:30 hours.
Regards,
Marty
Note: Var & Dev have the opposite sign (-) from today’s convention in the note found in the third watch.
Here are some notes to get you started:
http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,3758.msg37774.html#msg37774 (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,3758.msg37774.html#msg37774)
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By looking at the shiplist someone posted earlier here for SSE its only 1 ship that I really miss, both in SS2008 and SSE.
It's the big luxury yacht from SS2006, I really hope will see her again...
(http://www.gamezone.com/images/gamezone/29/3/70/s29370_pc_4.jpg)
That ship was overshadowed IT SHOULD RETURN
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Well, at least they got something right... Keeping that rusty wreck out of it.
No doubt it will appear later on as an add on...
ha ha ha okay that cracks me up you can email vstep about it and they will say it will be added lator on so dont think its never gonna come
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I can think of other ships from SS08 I would rather see first...
*Thinks of Portferrio Angel :blush:
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What about the Hydrojet?
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What about the Hydrojet?
Is that the jetski thingy?
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That ship was overshadowed IT SHOULD RETURN
yes this ship should be added :2thumbs: :2thumbs: i would pay for it
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Titanic has been confirmed to return via a future update in some form.
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Titanic has been confirmed to return via a future update in some form.
Oh great... Oh how very great indeed...
Links please?
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She coming some day :)
(http://i9.fastpic.ru/big/2010/0826/13/c853924946403ead9b98b46cb6258713.jpg)
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Oh great... Oh how very great indeed...
Links please?
I have a quote from Mad_Fred in another topic where someone was making note of the lack of Titanic:
It's okay, don't worry!
Yes, if nothing catastrophic goes wrong, it will follow!
This is not the only time Fred said something along these lines, and I think Terry once commented, too, but I don't remember how he worded his post :doh:
I don't suppose the forum moderators could float and sticky a post saying that Titanic will return with time?
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I third and forth the motion!
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I have a quote from Mad_Fred in another topic where someone was making note of the lack of Titanic:This is not the only time Fred said something along these lines, and I think Terry once commented, too, but I don't remember how he worded his post :doh:
I don't suppose the forum moderators could float and sticky a post saying that Titanic will return with time?
Oh great... Oh how very great indeed...
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SS United States, I say, instead, maybe, how about it? No?
Bigger and faster, and she still floats. I was just looking at some footage about it today on boobtube, I mean youtube.
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You must like it- given the number of times its being mentioned.
Still, at least its not as boring as titan.....zzzzzzzzzzzz
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I was expecting a different responce on a topic which states "1 good ship is missing on SSE" Stuart :doh:
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Clearly, Mr TFM, you are referring to THE ship. the Pride.
Well, a certain gentleman here is working on a grade A1 model... but, ahem, I think that the Pride is destined for a different destination.
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Hi iv been playing sse and there is alot of new ship like coast gaurd ship but the only thing that made me buy the 2008 one was it had TITANIC in it and now there is no titanic why :thumbdown:
There is already another topic on this, I suggest for optimizing the forums we keep the topic onto one thread.
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Hello Dave, stranger.
Nice to see you back on the tita.... :sleepy:..ic forum that also serves shipsim.
That wreck has taken over nearly as many threads as Marmite.
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That wreck has taken over nearly as many threads as Marmite.
Then clearly it's popular enough to make increase customer satisfaction with game inclusion, and perhaps even increase game sales ::)
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No, as it's the same FEW people making the same demand!
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No, as it's the same FEW people making the same demand!
Because they already know about the game and have accounts ::)
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And you are implying that there is a vast army of fans out there who are silently demanding that this ship is included?
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Contrariwise, there is a large majority who would like various problems and deficiencies corrected before the limited resources of VSTEP are diverted to cater to the demands of a small, but vocal, minority.
Should the Titanic be given priority over the needs of that majority, they are likely to become very angry.
The argument that including Titanic in SSE would increase sales is not a rational one. That ship is available in the less expensive SS2008 that runs better, for that limited purpose, than SSE does.
It is unlikely that anyone would buy SSE just to get Titanic. Most of those who want Titanic already own SSE, so the potential for additional sales is small.
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Marty, would you not agree that a good commercial route would be for vstep to license selected partners to make, distribute and sell add ons? A form of franchising?
I realise they want to keep ultimate control but I fear that (as much as I'm loathe to admit it) RMS-G has a point... Not just about that one dull ship, but all of us have something we'd like to see in it- but vstep would never be able to fulfill all these requests even IF it saw the business model to support it.
They are missing a trick. ss is good- but it COULD be great.
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Hi Stu,
You might have a valid point, under the right conditions:
Is SSE expected to be a profit center? Or is it not expected to even recoup development costs? If the latter, why allow others to profit from SSE while VSTEP does not?
What would be the development costs for VSTEP to polish the tools that would allow a third party to fully integrate a ship into the game?
How many people would be willing to make the sizable investment in the development tools—probably Q3D—for an uncertain market? And to develop for a game that may pose a moving target for some time to come?
How much proprietary information would VSTEP need to divulge? Would it then make them vulnerable to having the whole game cloned?
There are some fundamental differences between the architecture of SS and that of most other games that may make development more difficult and less attractive for third parties.
Even though Q3D/QuestViewer is a very good graphics development system for many purposes, and has served me well on some industrial contracts, QV is simply not the “lean, mean gaming machine†that runs most other games.
Marty
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Fair points Marty.
I would envisage a licence including a % for vstep.
vstep should have thought about their software more carefully to begin with.
If vstep had thought this through properly then a 3rd party developer wouldn't need to invest in too many development tools. Think the add on industry for msfs!
I doubt the game could be cloned in this way- they shouldn't need to divulge all that much data (think the method vs uses)
I would agree that there are fundamental differences between the way ss works and other games. HOWEVER- as a consumer, that isn't my problem.
With my company, if I fail to do something in a commercially astute manner, I don't say to my customers "pay me anyway even if it isn't what you wanted."
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When the titanic returns I will purchase SSE.
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You will be alerted that it is time when you see pigs fly past your window.
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You will be alerted that it is time when you see pigs fly past your window.
Looked outside today and witnessed this:
(http://tararasch.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/flyingpig.jpg)
I guess I won't need that refund I was considering requesting at this rate ;D
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The Elbe is missing too
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The Elbe is missing too
And Furie
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You will be alerted that it is time when you see pigs fly past your window.
I’ll keep an eye out. Maybe a stable release as well?
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It seems to me of other ships from SS08 I would rather see first...