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Title: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: The Ferry Man on January 04, 2012, 20:59:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEwWEwRmihY&fb_source=message

There was a link to this video on Ferries of Northern Europe, it shows a bridge view of the beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga, Turkey
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: dexter7 on January 04, 2012, 22:01:03
Ouch! it seems the vessel that leaves the screen at 2:15 is moving with speed, Was this vessel under power?
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: The Ferry Man on January 04, 2012, 22:23:26
Yes

if you listen you hear the Pilot giving the person in control instructions for throttle and rudder :)
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on January 04, 2012, 22:32:02
I thought this ship only recently started on the Irish sea (again)??? Didn't last very long, did it,
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: The Ferry Man on January 04, 2012, 22:36:49
I know she grounded and had some damage to a winch I believe...

ended up just finishing the route from Troon completely too...
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on January 04, 2012, 22:47:46
Oh so they were just using up the last bit of useful life then.

Fair enough.

Hope soon there will be a video of rodin and berlioz at alang ;)
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Cat320DL on January 07, 2012, 18:15:35
I saw this on a Facebook.
It is a sad end to a ferry  :(

Kyle
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on January 07, 2012, 18:51:19
People: You're born and then you die
Ships: Launched and then scrapped

Yes, it might be sad, but when you get older you will realise that they are just big piece of metal that's all. Unless you have a personal attachment to a ship, I would try and lose a little less sleep about it..
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Captain Cadet on January 07, 2012, 20:22:57
from what ive  heared the stena europe will get scraped in a copul of years time  :(
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on January 08, 2012, 04:49:24
Very interesting video...it's not often you get to see the beaching from the bridge.

Jack.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: danny on January 08, 2012, 22:31:44
theres a few videos around on youtube of beachings, most of them are from cointaner vessels (normally owned by MSC) being beached at alang, which is COMPLETELY different to this video, the alang ones normally involve full throttle and midships  :doh:
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: NBRYANT24 on January 09, 2012, 20:19:57
Why is there a body hanging from the crane at the end of the video?
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: The Ferry Man on January 11, 2012, 22:29:14
Picture of her on the beach

http://www.marine-marchande.net/Jourlejour2/S/538-Norcape.jpg
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: dexter7 on January 12, 2012, 02:51:24
Let me get this straight, did they beach her intentionally? I know it's a stupid question :P But I have to ask. It looked like it was done intentionally.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: NBRYANT24 on January 12, 2012, 06:00:44
Dexter,

Norcape was beached intentionally, ships to be broken up are run aground on the beach under their own power, then gradually dismantled. As the weight of the ship lessens, it is dragged further onto the beach until completely scrapped. They are dragged onto the beach by a length of chain you see going through the ships bulbous bow in the photograph below.

(http://www.marine-marchande.net/Jourlejour2/S/538-Norcape.jpg)
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Bottman on January 12, 2012, 12:25:32
Looks still like a well maintained ship... :'(
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: MokMok on January 12, 2012, 12:30:17
Why is the Norcape being scrapped? Doesn't she comply to the current safety (SOLAS) and environment regulations? Otherwise she could have been sold to other countries.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: VirtualSkipper on January 12, 2012, 14:07:17
Why is the Norcape being scrapped? Doesn't she comply to the current safety (SOLAS) and environment regulations? Otherwise she could have been sold to other countries.

She ran aground some time ago, so it was eventually decided to scrap her because repairs were too expensive.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Captain Cadet on January 12, 2012, 16:45:42
still she works
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: danny on January 12, 2012, 17:28:32
still she works

She doesn't work anymore  :doh:
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Snakebyte92 on January 12, 2012, 17:29:13
She doesn't work anymore  :doh:
Oh, really??!  ;D
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Captain Cadet on January 12, 2012, 17:48:56
she was under her own power
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Snakebyte92 on January 12, 2012, 18:01:07
she was under her own power
But probally not able to sail her her duty. No valid certificates and insurances.

Does someone know or there are special rules somewhere, or certificates for these situation. When a ship is able to sail but not for her duty. Just curious?  :D
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on January 25, 2012, 14:14:46
Despite a shortage of ships in recent years, look at the amount being chopped now.

Pride of Telemark for example- repairs all complete but just no one wanted to buy so- chopped.

The Herald of Free Enterprise- the costs of repair to what was then a young ship; the costa concordia will probably end up the same thing. Ships are expensive to repair, so cheaper to recycle them into coke cans and razor blades.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: vin_sun on January 25, 2012, 18:46:10
But probally not able to sail her her duty. No valid certificates and insurances.

Does someone know or there are special rules somewhere, or certificates for these situation. When a ship is able to sail but not for her duty. Just curious?  :D


Every merchant ship - from the time she is delivered by the shipyard and until she finally reaches the scrapyard - has to have all valid certificates. Things may be different if she has to be towed to a scrapyard and there is no one on board during the duration of the towage period. Classification societies have the powers to grant or cancel certificates as the case may be.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on January 25, 2012, 21:39:21
Vin_sun, they have the right to issue restricted licences though- for example a ship lost one of its 2 props yet was allowed to operate- but only on a restricted licence of X tonnes cargo.

The same applies to ships going for breaking, does it not? The licence might restrict the number of crew onboard to just min bridge and engineering for example.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: vin_sun on January 26, 2012, 19:35:27
You're right Stu. Class will do the needful in such cases but will issue it for a specified time.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on January 27, 2012, 15:20:53
Me right??? Don't sound too surprised ;)
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Cat320DL on February 18, 2012, 04:01:37
Not much left of Norcape  :(

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1493759 (http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1493759)
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: danny on February 18, 2012, 04:03:42
:o
Those scrappers are QUICK!
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Cat320DL on February 18, 2012, 16:15:22
Yep 

Kyle
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on February 19, 2012, 15:27:30
Is now the wrong time for helen deeble, ceo of pee and ohno ferries to go along and tell them they got the wrong ship?
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: The Ferry Man on February 19, 2012, 15:35:16
She is also now the "president of the UK Chamber of Shipping"...

And I think it may be a bit late now...  :doh:
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on February 19, 2012, 15:39:29
She is also now the "president of the UK Chamber of Shipping"...

And I think it may be a bit late now...  :doh:

That's like making captain costa schinetto the president of the Italian chamber of shipping.

A more unsuitable person you can not find. She has presided over decline after decline of the once mighty P&O.

PS I'm sure that idiot jim on your other forum will probably have it that the Norcape is taking over on a new run to Bilbao... But shhhh don't tell anyone.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: w_de_falco on August 26, 2012, 23:45:36
That's like making captain costa schinetto the president of the Italian chamber of shipping.

Schettino, not Schinetto...

A more unsuitable person you can not find. She has presided over decline after decline of the once mighty P&O.

PS I'm sure that idiot jim on your other forum will probably have it that the Norcape is taking over on a new run to Bilbao... But shhhh don't tell anyone.
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 27, 2012, 22:06:49
What point are you making, you pointless pillock?
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 27, 2012, 22:08:43
What point are you making, you pointless pillock?

I think he may have corrected your spelling of the Captains name...
Title: Re: Video: Beaching of the Norcape at Aliaga
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 28, 2012, 00:06:02
I think he may have corrected your spelling of the Captains name...

No, Captain schettino is a real person and until his trial he remains innocent in law and thus for me to defame him by suggesting he would not be a good President of the Italian Chamber of Shipping would be incorrect.

Captain schinetto on the other hand is a generic name of a fictitious Captain; if anyone (Mr falco, for example) should infer that they are one and the same then that is his own opinion, not mine....