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Title: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 12, 2008, 10:33:10
I am sure this topic is out there somewhere. But how many of us have been on planes?

I go at least once a year on a 8+ hour flight. I have already been on two this year and am going on another one to Boston in 2 weeks.

Pictures? post them. I have some, somewhere, out to the left wing.

Feels funny when you lift off and land but in flight it feels like you are on the ground except for turbulence were then you feel like you are free-falling...
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on June 12, 2008, 13:03:31
thailand twice a year 3flights there 3 back 14000 miles each time return
                                                                                  Eric  8)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 12, 2008, 13:19:20
only ever been to spain and cyprus
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Paddy134 on June 12, 2008, 14:20:19
I went to Glasgow on a plane recently, God knows why :P
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jayshum on June 12, 2008, 15:00:36
Agent, I get the distinct impression you're rich...:P

Yes, I've been on a couple of planes before. My favourite time was when I flew on the (at the time) brand new 777, literally the first one produced for commercial use (001). I remember being confused as to how hot the window seats were, compared to the isle seats. On the way home, we got upgraded to First Class though, which was truly amazing. I've also been on a DC-9 (and me knowing a lot about planes as well boats), it's fair to say I was absolutely terrified (poor safety record)!

Over here, I took an easyjet 737-200 down to London once, because it was only £5 more than the coach, and I didn't want to get stuck in traffic on the M25 for hours!
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jackobaker53 on June 12, 2008, 17:19:54
I have flown many many many times, flown to dubai and back 3 times, i fly at least 4 times (there and back) every year, and im gonna be off in a plan to Majorca in 2 or so weeks, im not the most genious photographer in the worlds so no pics will be comin back, but you must never fly with Ryanair, yeh cheap flights to anywhere in the world, cheap flights using people who have never flown before :), had a bit of an extreely rough landing with them, and the stewardess LIED to me, i asked for a coke, completely open trolley with 2 boxes of coke in it, she says no. Emirates do the best flights, you get tvs on every seat even in economy :), i want to visit the cockpit of a plane sometime.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 12, 2008, 20:03:14
Agent, I get the distinct impression you're rich...:P

I would not consider myself rich although we are definitely not struggling or poor. We just have money to do things that we want to do.

Household Income = Over $200,000

I have gone to Florida and back already. I am going to yakima and back this weekend in my dad's friends private plane (small). And then I am going to boston, taking the train to D.C. then coming back. :P that is like 30 hours of flying.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: MMMMMM on June 12, 2008, 23:44:36
ive been on a plane 10 times

4 to disney world      Boeing 777

6 to portugal      Airbus A380 1st class
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: budbud on June 12, 2008, 23:53:05
Hi,
the last three years, I was taking the plane every two months to reach my ship or go back home. Usually Marseille-Paris-Douala (Cameroun) or Lagos (Nigeria) or Luanda (Angola) and back.
But the worst travel I made was to get home from Gabon: Port-Gentil - Libreville - Douala - Paris - Marseille, four flights in 24 hours!
 
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 13, 2008, 00:08:58
ive been on a plane 10 times

4 to disney world      Boeing 777

6 to portugal      Airbus A380 1st class
I thought only 737's flew into orlando.  ???

W/E my parents will not fly airbus, because both of them worked at boeing.  ::)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Minime on June 13, 2008, 00:24:28
I have been on a airplane 8 times this year and I'm going to fly again atleast 2 times before the end of the year, because I have been operatet. I also went ti Iceland with my school class.
My longest flight ever was about 14 hours from Amsterdam to Montreal Canada. There was a blackout because of lightning. I also remember I was sitting right with the wing when a lightning hit the wing, many people were scared but nothing special happend.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Ship Sim on June 13, 2008, 04:28:40
I dont go on airplanes. WAY TO DANGERIOUS! And from what Im to understand that shey dont regulary clean the air filters so your breathing in someones flu/diseased air. Plus from what im to understand the food sucks. :D (kind of like the school food) ;D And by the way SCHOOLS OUT FOR SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Ship sim is the happyest person on the east coast(possiably)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 13, 2008, 04:31:55
I dont go on airplanes.  ::)
Weirdo

WAY TO DANGERIOUS!
How? I have never crashed or died.

And from what Im to understand that shey dont regulary clean the air filters so your breathing in someones flu/diseased air.
They filter over and over. And they clean them after every flight.

Plus from what im to understand the food sucks. :D (kind of like the school food) ;D
Bring your own sandwich or other food on your carry on.

And by the way SCHOOLS OUT FOR SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Ship sim is the happyest person on the east coast(possiably)
I have another week, although I am suspended so it doesn't matter. I have had the last 3 months off.  ::)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: MMMMMM on June 13, 2008, 05:33:09
oh i dont know but it was a 777
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: beechjetkid17 on June 13, 2008, 06:06:19
I've been on planes many, many times. Mostly 737s...although I've been on plenty of Dash 8s and Embraer regional jets. I try to get in the cockpit to take a look as many times as a possible. Most of the time...they'll let you take a peak right when you board. I've also been in the captain's seat of the plane my dad flies...the Beechjet 400A. Whenever he gets to fly into the airport nearest my house, we always get to sit in his plane for a while, before his passengers get there. I've also been able to take control of a small Cessna, when I was 5 or 6. And my dad's gonna start giving me lessons soon. I'm hoping to get my pilots license in the next couple years ;D


Dan
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Minime on June 13, 2008, 12:30:23
goood luck with that
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 13, 2008, 13:45:37
well the hey with "on a plane", My family owns a plane. ;D
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1087443/ (http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1087443/)
   It says the plane is at KOSH but its really at KORH-Worcester (the photographer typed it in wrong.) ::)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jango on June 13, 2008, 15:44:15
How mush did it cost? ???
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Ship Sim on June 13, 2008, 16:46:49
Ive always wanted a privet plane. ;D Dont care for comercial cause I have no controal over the situiation.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 13, 2008, 21:23:21
How mush did it cost?

I'm not sure ~$200,000 I think... :-\
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jango on June 14, 2008, 16:04:56
Expensive :o
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 14, 2008, 21:33:03
Expensive :o
Not really that is cheap for a plane.

What size llama? Is it yours or do you rent it? Is it paid off are are you still paying off the loan?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: [RWP]DJM on June 14, 2008, 21:35:18
What size llama? Is it yours or do you rent it? Is it paid off are are you still paying off the loan?

Perhaps you'd like a full financial statement too :P :D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 14, 2008, 21:38:47
I am going to north carolina on july 2 from florida. It is my first time flying EVER!, so I am expecting to get scared ;D.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 14, 2008, 21:44:29
Finally someone  who finally sees the cost that goes into buying a plane,  When I talk to my friends they say...
Boat:$5,000 Try $20,000+
Car:$25,000 Pretty close
Plane:$1,000 Maybe $200,000 or $21,000,000 for a small jet.

Now that is just a laugh. :)

  P.S.  We co-own it with a friend (some how we end up paying for most of the mantenance though) and it is 100% payed for.

Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 14, 2008, 21:52:23
Is flying a bit scary? How did you feel when you first flew?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 14, 2008, 22:00:59
Is flying a bit scary? How did you feel when you first flew?
I don't remember when I first flew, the worst parts are take-off and landing.

Take-off it just feels weird and being able to see the ground below you and how fast your going. Landing it is weird just seeing land come so fast and it feels like your in a crash when they put the speed brake on. (Flappy things on the wings that fold up to slow you down) because it makes you asll fly foward, note why they have seatbelts.  :P
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 14, 2008, 23:09:40
Hi A|A.

Those are the bits that I really enjoy. It's that feeling as you reach rotation speed and the stick comes back and you leave the ground behind... If only life could be like that always!

Landing is fun also. Heading for that little dot, keeping the speed just right as you drop out of the sky, nose up, flaps at 15 degrees, then 20. Air brakes on if you're swooping in too fast. Man against gravity. Great fun.

The bit in the middle is boring....

Finally someone  who finally sees the cost that goes into buying a plane,  When I talk to my friends they say...
Boat:$5,000 Try $20,000+

It costs me more than that in fuel in a year for my boat..... Costs £5,000+ just to moor in it at Chichester Marina. Plus, plus, plus... Still, I didn't get it because it was cheap. I got it 'cos I love going out in it. (I am the Solent Rocket!)  ;D

But hairyplanes, even small ones are even more expensive.

But an ex-wife beats them all  :'(
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 15, 2008, 00:08:37
The bit in the middle is boring....
Yes it is even boring for the pilot. ::)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:24:05
Yes terry but I am afraid of heights you see, and being high and still seeing the ground is a no no. I would rather just see the "ground" of clouds.  :P

I think the coolest part is that first turn once you get to 5 thousand. Looking directly at the ground (if your leaving Seattle-Tacoma. and are on the starboard side. It is always weird landing when you see all the building right below you. And you can't really see the runway so you have no clue where the runway is.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 15, 2008, 00:29:13
Well, I think I am going to freak out when I am in the air. Do you go through clouds in the air?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 15, 2008, 00:30:43
In a small plane it depends on what kind of mood the pilot is in. :D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:32:10
Well, I think I am going to freak out when I am in the air. Do you go through clouds in the air?
Depends if it is cloudy out. You do but the pilots usually fly above the clouds and if there alt is in the clouds they request to climb/descend. It isn't really that bad, if you don't like it get an aisle seat instead of a window. ;)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 15, 2008, 00:35:17
Well, my mom got us a great deal on airline tickets, but it is supposed to be in the isle. I really wanted to know what the ground looks like from a plane.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:36:20
Well, my mom got us a great deal on airline tickets, but it is supposed to be in the isle. I really wanted to know what the ground looks like from a plane.
I will take some video of take-off/landing in 2 weeks when I leave. I have some pics somewhere around here.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:38:16
http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=6446

There are some pics I took when I was coming home from Florida.  ;)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 15, 2008, 00:39:35
Alright, I would love to see the vids and pics. As I said, I am departing on july 2nd, so I think I will know how it looks from thousands of feet up in the air. I hope ;D.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:41:28
Alright, I would love to see the vids and pics. As I said, I am departing on july 2nd, so I think I will know how it looks from thousands of feet up in the air. I hope ;D.
Sweet, I should have vidoes/images posted by June 24th/25th since I am leaving the 23rd. :) I'm not sure how my aunts internet connection is *prays for DSL or better*

Note: Planes fly around 30,000 Feet, 9,144 Meters
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 15, 2008, 00:43:20
Those pictures are breath taking in my opinion. How did you feel when you saw the sun setting on the horizon?

Yea, my grandmas connection sucked when I went on youtube at her house ;D.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:44:36
Those pictures are breath taking in my opinion. How did you feel when you saw the sun setting on the horizon?

Yea, my grandmas connection sucked when I went on youtube at her house ;D.
It was pretty, on the way there I had to be on the side were the sun was directly in so I had the window cover closed the whole time or else when I was playing ship sim all I could see what whiteness. <3 laptops <3 ship sim <3 fold down trays
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 15, 2008, 00:49:02
ya and about 377knots or ~450mph or ~0.81mach at that 30,000ft :)
All caculations are not even close because I'm to lazy to use a conversion factor.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:52:13
ya and about 377knots or ~450mph or ~0.81mach at that 30,000ft :)
All caculations are not even close because I'm to lazy to use a conversion factor.
More like .4 mach. :P Although I have been on the concord, it is at the museum down here. :)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 15, 2008, 00:53:14
Wow, you had a great opportunity to view the sunset and you abused it :D? All for the delight of videogames, tisk tisk.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 00:53:56
Wow, you had a great opportunity to view the sunset and you abused it :D? All for the delight of videogames, tisk tisk.
BTW fun flying at night and seeing all the little ants on the freeway.  :P
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 15, 2008, 01:04:21
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"More like .4 mach. Tongue Although I have been on the concord, it is at the museum down here."
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No I just did the calculation and it is really 0.66mach because the speed of sound is faster at altitude.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 01:06:43
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"More like .4 mach. Tongue Although I have been on the concord, it is at the museum down here."
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No I just did the calculation and it is really 0.66mach because the speed of sound is faster at altitude.
Oh.  ::)

Duh it is faster, less air in the way up there. ;)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 15, 2008, 10:51:08
More like .4 mach. :P Although I have been on the concord, it is at the museum down here. :)

My Dad worked for Vickers Armstrong (they made planes such as the Vickers Vimmy and others), which later became British Aircraft Corporation (they built VC10 and BAC111 etc) and later became part of British Aerospace (Concorde, Harrier etc).

He was the Head of Electrical and Electronic Design and Production. His brother (my Uncle) was Head of Hydraulics.

One summer, when school was out, he asked me if I wanted to go in one of the planes they were working on. He said it was going to "go up for a quick spin". Of course, I WANTED, oh boy I WANTED! He took me to his office at Weybridge and we went out on the runway (what was once Brooklands Racetrack). We got into a small propellor-driven plane. We went up and then landed a few miles further along (At Wisley Aerodrome, about 5 miles away).

There, we got into another small plane and then flew to another company airfield (Bristol, I think). I was having a wonderful day! !  ;D

At Bristol, we got into yet another plane. This one was strange. It had just a few strips of flooring to walk on and just a few seats bolted down. You could see loads of pipes and wires running everywhere. And the strangest things was the funny wings. They were curved! Most odd.  ???

One of my Dad's mates came aboard (Brian Trubshaw, but everyone called him "Tubby"). He said "Gentlemen, today we're off for a spin, but I won't be looping the loop, as George here (My Dad) gets annoyed if I do that. But we are going to take this lady up to maximum".

He then disappeared up the front, followed by my Dad (who was going to keep an eye on the monitoring equipment and also be the radio operator) and we all strapped ourselves in.

After a short while we taxied onto the runway and the plane took off. The noise was immense. We were all pushed back into our seats as the plane went up at a very steep angle. Even from high up, the ground seemed to be moving very fast.

After what seemed like a few minutes, Tubby announced, "If you look out the left, you'll see something you won't forget". He was right. THE PYRAMIDS!

My Dad later told me that we had been flying at more than twice the speed of sound on that trip. That plane was of course Concord. They just don't make them like that any more.  :'(
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 15, 2008, 10:54:02

Cool, when I was on it, talk about no leg room.  ::)

I did watch it land for the final time at Boeing Field.

My dad works at Boeing in quality management, pretty much he makes charts on how good the quality is of the planes.  :P

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 15, 2008, 12:15:24
Hi A|A.

In that case, your Dad will be very familiar with what I do when I'm not here (my "other" job).

ISO9000 - the international quality management standard.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Nathanael on June 15, 2008, 12:55:54
I have been on  a plane to Crete which lasted 6 hours. It was during a thunderstorm and everyone was realy scared but since I was young I found it funny for some weird reason!

My brother is planning to become a pilot and he's had about 12 lessons by now and has just got his solo licence. Pretty cool eh? He has to pay at least 160 euro for each one!
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 16, 2008, 22:28:00
BTW fun flying at night and seeing all the little ants on the freeway.  :P
LOL! ;D. Isint it nice that all the ants wont bite you 3,000 feet in the air? :D.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 16, 2008, 22:28:58
LOL! ;D. Isint it nice that all the ants wont bite you 3,000 feet in the air? :D.
Yeah best part is I leave early in the morning so I can take some nice photos. With sunrise and such.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 16, 2008, 22:37:16
Ohh so you do get to see the sunrise. My dad has been flying to columbia for years now but I havent goten the chance to go on an airplane to meet my family there :-\. All the reletives I know are from my moms side of the family because they are american and they all live in florida. My mom said that she will take me on a plane to columbia some day, so, I am still hoping ;).

Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 16, 2008, 22:51:05
Ohh so you do get to see the sunrise. My dad has been flying to columbia for years now but I havent goten the chance to go on an airplane to meet my family there :-\. All the reletives I know are from my moms side of the family because they are american and they all live in florida. My mom said that she will take me on a plane to columbia some day, so, I am still hoping ;).



Well ticket prices are high right now, just because of fuel prices. And ever since 9/11 security takes HOURS, you get like no food onboard so bring money to buy some at the airport and take it on. Liquid restriction are dumb for us NON-BOMBERS.  ::) It just got worse. I liked it when the whole plane was open to do what ever.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 16, 2008, 22:53:13
Have a great time, A|A.

Hi, The Captain.

Like you, I have a lot of relatives in Florida (Mother-in-Law, Sisters-in_law, Brother-in-Law, neices, nephews). My Mother-in-Law went to Ireland two years ago. So we went there, stayed in our cottage near Galway for a couple of days, met up for an afternoon, then we went home again.

Then last year she went to Scotland, so we drove up and went round with her for a week or so.

I've never been to Columbia (so far), though. Maybe, one day.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 17, 2008, 20:37:21
Hmm, I really would like to go to columbia, and as a/a said, gas is very expensive. Its not that my family cant afford it, its just that columbia is the death capitol of the world :o! So tell me, how would you like it if your kid was in the death capitol of the world for a week? How do you think it would feel as a parent :P.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 17, 2008, 21:08:19
Hmm, I really would like to go to columbia, and as a/a said, gas is very expensive. Its not that my family cant afford it, its just that columbia is the death capitol of the world :o! So tell me, how would you like it if your kid was in the death capitol of the world for a week? How do you think it would feel as a parent :P.
Lol  :P

I would probably commit an act of violence. Maybe you should go somewhere else like Hawaii.  :P

Edited by Terry. Description of act of violence removed
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 17, 2008, 21:09:18
My son has been there. But like me, he goes to a lot of dangerous places.

I don't think Columbia is the "death capital". Many war zones are far worse. I've been to some of them.

As with all things, taking sensible precautions, not going to places known to be risky and not doing things that mark you as a target will help a lot.

But, not going to dangerous places, unless you really HAVE to, makes a lot more sense...

Anyway, you Americans don't really know about high prices for fuel. You should live here, in the tax capital of the world. I paid about £1.10 per litre today. There are 4.5 litres per gallon, so that's £4.95 per gallon. There are about $2 = £1, so that's about $10/gallon.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 17, 2008, 21:14:50
My son has been there. But like me, he goes to a lot of dangerous places.

I don't think Columbia is the "death capital". Many war zones are far worse. I've been to some of them.

As with all things, taking sensible precautions, not going to places known to be risky and not doing things that mark you as a target will help a lot.

But, not going to dangerous places, unless you really HAVE to, makes a lot more sense...

Anyway, you Americans don't really know about high prices for fuel. You should live here, in the tax capital of the world. I paid about £1.10 per litre today. There are 4.5 litres per gallon, so that's £4.95 per gallon. There are about $2 = £1, so that's about $10/gallon.

Diesel is just over $5/gallon here now.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 17, 2008, 21:42:26
I'm not sure about the price of diesel, but I know it's even more than petrol (gas).
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 17, 2008, 22:38:27
you kdding were i live just out side london petrol is £1.39 a leter
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 17, 2008, 22:47:28
Phew! That's $12.50 a gallon.

I know prices went up with the tanker driver's strike over the past few days. Maybe I paid more than 1.10 per litre.  ???

I stopped worrying some while ago. I have to travel to do my job ad the fuel costs whatever it costs.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: CaptainMike1 on June 17, 2008, 22:52:17
Filled up with diesel in Hampshire today and it was £1.319 per litre!! Gold dust might be cheaper!
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 17, 2008, 22:58:11
Just checked my petrol receipt. I filled up at Membury Services on the M4 today and yes, that was about the same price.

As I said, "you Americans don't know about expensive fuel" (yet).

My mother-in-Law is American and she rings me every now and again to ask what the price of fuel is over here.

I once asked her why and she said "It makes things look so much better here in Florida!".   ;D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 00:32:54
Just checked my petrol receipt. I filled up at Membury Services on the M4 today and yes, that was about the same price.

As I said, "you Americans don't know about expensive fuel" (yet).

My mother-in-Law is American and she rings me every now and again to ask what the price of fuel is over here.

I once asked her why and she said "It makes things look so much better here in Florida!".   ;D

Actually our oil provider stepped up production and prices are going down for us now.  ;D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Minime on June 18, 2008, 01:52:51
last time i checked for diesel the price was about one pound per kilo
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Captain Kool on June 18, 2008, 09:10:36
Not really that is cheap for a plane.

What size llama? Is it yours or do you rent it? Is it paid off are are you still paying off the loan?



Not really 'Cheap for a plane', You can buy a fairly decent plane for that amount, like the one shown. It also depends what you are buying, Cessna's - Few hundred thousand. Jabiru's -$50 000 AU.

Choppers (R22) $10 000 (Kit) - $50 000

Bell  (Jetranger 406) A few million.


AB A380 - $100 000 000's...


Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 10:55:16
hang on it will check


no i dont have a fue million in my pocket right now i will check behind the sofa maybe it there   ;D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 10:57:51
hang on it will check


no i dont have a fue million in my pocket right now i will check behind the sofa maybe it there   ;D

Don't forget to check under the cushions.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 20:46:40
My son has been there. But like me, he goes to a lot of dangerous places.

I don't think Columbia is the "death capital". Many war zones are far worse. I've been to some of them.

As with all things, taking sensible precautions, not going to places known to be risky and not doing things that mark you as a target will help a lot.

But, not going to dangerous places, unless you really HAVE to, makes a lot more sense...

Anyway, you Americans don't really know about high prices for fuel. You should live here, in the tax capital of the world. I paid about £1.10 per litre today. There are 4.5 litres per gallon, so that's £4.95 per gallon. There are about $2 = £1, so that's about $10/gallon.
Yes, I quite sure that columbia is the death capitol of the world, what with the gurrilas and all. Its just the small detail that I could get kidnapped by them. War zones are worse, but then again, the jungles in columbia are pretty much war zones because of the gurrilas.

You know, in the last 200 years, 100 new TAXES have been added to america. Back then, we were the most prosperous country in the world. I wonder why we arent now ::).
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 20:47:51
Yes, I quite sure that columbia is the death capitol of the world, what with the gurrilas and all. Its just the small detail that I could get kidnapped by them. War zones are worse, but then again, the jungles in columbia are pretty much war zones because of the gurrilas.

You know, in the last 200 years, 100 new TAXES have been added to america. Back then, we were the most prosperous country in the world. I wonder why we arent now ::).
7 days from today I will be on a plane. So a week from today videos will be uploaded.  :D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 20:49:18
Good to know.  You will tell where they will be, right?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jackobaker53 on June 18, 2008, 20:50:16
:O 16 days and ill be on a plane, btw have any of you seen an airbus a380? the new double decker one? i had the morning off scool and drove past heathrow to see one flying right in front of me :), they quite big
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 20:52:09
:O 16 days and ill be on a plane, btw have any of you seen an airbus a380? the new double decker one? i had the morning off scool and drove past heathrow to see one flying right in front of me :), they quite big
No because they suck. We have never flown on airbus.

I also know some. If you have a plane that can only land at 5 airports world wide because of size. What if you need to make an emergency landing? A 737 can land at almost any international airport world wide and if needed can land on any expressway. Notice anything?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jackobaker53 on June 18, 2008, 20:54:33
airbus looks good ;D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 20:57:35
airbus looks good ;D
The 787 looks better.

Anyway airbus isn't much different, both of them fly. But please look at my other post about emergency landings. Airbus thinks bigger is better.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jackobaker53 on June 18, 2008, 21:04:36
i like big, so does airbus, its profitable :), i like boeing too, but airbus A380 looks better then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllll the boeings squashed up into one cake, i like the round front, and seeing it fly in front of you is incredible, with the big chunkiness, i wish i got some pics, ive seen 2 in my life, both because of being out of school LOL. anywayz im sure even you want to fly in the worlds largest passenger aircraft right
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 21:06:37
i like big, so does airbus, its profitable :), i like boeing too, but airbus A380 looks better then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllll the boeings squashed up into one cake, i like the round front, and seeing it fly in front of you is incredible, with the big chunkiness, i wish i got some pics, ive seen 2 in my life, both because of being out of school LOL. anywayz im sure even you want to fly in the worlds largest passenger aircraft right

If you have a plane that can only land at 5 airports world wide because of size. What if you need to make an emergency landing? A 737/777/787 can land at almost any international airport world wide and if needed can land on any expressway. Notice anything?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jackobaker53 on June 18, 2008, 21:08:30
737's are miniscule, they are small, uncomfortable, scruffy, bad leather seats and tightly packed, and all planes run the risk of failures, and what if the A380 was coinsidentially at one of those 5 airports, anyway, its one of the most modern planes i know, it wont break
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 21:10:56
737's are miniscule, they are small, uncomfortable, scruffy, bad leather seats and tightly packed, and all planes run the risk of failures, and what if the A380 was coinsidentially at one of those 5 airports, anyway, its one of the most modern planes i know, it wont break

You can't complain about the seats, the airlines order the seats what ever they want and same with the layout, that wasn't boeing fault the customer ordered it like that. All run risk of faliures but if you can't make an emergency landing then what do you do?

Modern? Have you seen the dream liner site? Or the big event in Everett?

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 21:11:32
Kinda ;D. I concur with austin, life or death situation. I would go with the beoing and if you were a first time flyer, you definitly want the sence of safety sorrounding you ;).

Dont ever say that a plane wont break, because there is always a possibility. Everything has to break and die, it is the life porcess. You dont see your PS2 controller breaking because it is brand new, you see it break because it is old.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 21:14:48
This is from my dad that is at work currently:

--- says:
Besides all of this, you can't compare the 737 with the A380 - they're not even close
Agent says:
Yes but I can tell them all the flaws with the a380 that are obvious...
--- says:
you would have to compare the A380 with a 747 - however you are correct, the seats are BFE (buyer furnished equipment) and the airline controls that, not Boeing

oh and about saftey

--- says:
The other argument would be that outside of the US the airlines are not regulated for safety like they are here in the US.  Because of this Boeing places personnel at every airport and monitors every one of their airplanes to make sure maintenance schedules are being followed - if they aren't then they won't allow them to fly.  Airbus does not do this.  This alone makes Boeing airplanes, all of them, safer.

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Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 21:18:30
oh and about saftey

--- says:
The other argument would be that outside of the US the airlines are not regulated for safety like they are here in the US.  Because of this Boeing places personnel at every airport and monitors every one of their airplanes to make sure maintenance schedules are being followed - if they aren't then they won't allow them to fly.  Airbus does not do this.  This alone makes Boeing airplanes, all of them, safer.

still people flying in a metel box at 500 mph 36,000 feet in the air is the saftest way to travel waird isent it
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 21:20:43
still people flying in a metel box at 500 mph 36,000 feet in the air is the saftest way to travel waird isent it
It is the safest way. Because even if something does happen there are hardly any in air crashes, you don't just fly out the door, there can be a failure, (and if your not in an a380) you can land safely like a glider. It is fail-safe. Anything that happens in the air can almost always be saved. Really the only thing that could go horribly wrong is if terrorists take over and crash you on purpose, if you hit another plane (HIGHLY UNLIKELY) or if your pilot is just dumb.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 21:21:48
what about if the wings fall off that would be a big problem
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 21:22:05
I think cruising is the safest and most fun way to travel ;D.

How are the wings supposed to fall off ;D ???.

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Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 21:23:35
good knows but i may happen

any way the stats for tavel

Mode of transport Deaths per billion passenger km
Air 0.02
Rail 0.9
Water 0.3
Car 2.8
Two-wheeled motor vehicle 112
Pedal cycle 41
Pedestrian 49

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Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 21:25:20
Yea well I wish god would tell me how the wings of a plane can just fall off for no reason ;D.

See, water ravel is pretty safe :D, and fun.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 21:26:56
ok a massive failuer of all the planes hull could make the wings drop off
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 21:29:54
Well how does the hull have a failure?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 21:30:59
exsploive decompression rips the hull open
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 21:38:37
exsploive decompression rips the hull open
And how often does that happen.  ::)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 21:40:08
never but it could under the right condistions it happend alot with old britsh jumbo jets as they has squear windose and after a cupel for year they would blow out takeing most if the plane with them
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 18, 2008, 21:43:22
never but it could under the right condistions it happend alot with old britsh jumbo jets as they has squear windose and after a cupel for year they would blow out takeing most if the plane with them
Please tell me you have flown before. Because you seem new to this whole plane thing. I have never been on a plane when anything has happened. Although when I went on my cruise one night both the main's blew and we had to run to port to get them fixed using what we had left in the generators.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 21:45:40
yes of corce i have flow before i just like to find the worce cace scenario in every thing it's just my thing
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 22:08:01
Course it is :D. Why dont you try and find the good things in life ;D?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 22:09:20
i somtimes do  ;D
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 22:13:46
Really..? Like what?
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 22:15:23
i once said last week that there was some nice flowers in my garden
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 22:18:51
I said try and look at the nice things in life, meaning, doing nice things. C'mon, its not that hard. Try going out to dinner with your wife, or, spending time with your friends. Here, I will give you an example of how good my life was today. Today, I got to go home from band camp ;D. Now, you try ;).
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 22:25:45
today i did nuffink today as have finish school so i put out a mouse trap in the shed to kill some mice as we put out bird food
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 18, 2008, 22:30:10
Chaps, please see the Forum rules at

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,26.0.html

which explain that short and off-topic posts may be considered to be spam.

Pauljanaway, I hope you read my similar message in the Titanic Mission thread.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 18, 2008, 22:31:42
we are i staded that plane travel is the safest form of travel but when thing go wrong the van go realy wrong so there is nuffin off topic as it is still about planes
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on June 18, 2008, 22:37:21
Hey, thats what my dad used to do. But after some time, the rats stopped comming becuase they were weary of the rat traps. Now, any rat that comes into the yard, I shoot them with my dad's BB-gun. About a month ago, a rat was right next to my dad eating birdseed that we put out for the birds. I went into the garage, got the gun, and shot him, from the other side of my yard. Marksman ship shot, right in the middle neck region, killing it instantly. My dad was amazed at my marksmanship and stared at me wide eyed. Dont forget how small a rat is and how inaccurate a BB-gun is. Also, I was at the complete other end of my yard, shooting over my pool and right in the rats neck! I think that was a pretty good day for me. My dad usually can ever hit a rat with the gun. But on my best try, a perfect shot.

By the way, dont think I go out and kill rats for fun or for a living, because I most certantly do not! ;D


By the way again, sorry Terry, wont happen again sir! :-[.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 18, 2008, 23:28:03
And to keep this on topic, here are a couple of shots I took a few weeks ago. The one withe the Cyrpus airline plaves is at Larnaca airport (Cyprus). The other was taken as we came in to Athens on my way back to Gatwick.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: Jango on June 19, 2008, 17:12:04
what was the altitud on the second picture :)
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 19, 2008, 20:49:50
what was the altitud on the second picture :)

Dunno. They wouldn't let go out on the wings with a tape measure....  ;D

We were about 4 minutes from touchdown, so I would guess around 3 - 4,000 ft.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: llamalord on June 20, 2008, 13:27:52
Looks like you flew in a <Boeing 737-300 extended range model>
With that knolage I was able to calculate that you would have been at 5500feet(ARL) if you were 4 minutes from landing.  The picture looks like less but I think that is because the airport is in a valley, so you really are 5500ft above the airports relative altitude.

==> The above was a huge sign of a waisted childhood. ;D <==
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: TerryRussell on June 20, 2008, 15:40:14
No, I wasn't in any of the planes in the picture.

This was only a short "hop" from Larnaca to Athens, so probably not in an extended range model. Could have been, though.
Title: Re: Planes
Post by: The Captain on July 09, 2008, 19:57:04
I am going to north carolina on july 2 from florida. It is my first time flying EVER!, so I am expecting to get scared ;D.

Well, I had a great time on the flight :). When we were only meer inches away from the ground, my head felt like it was going to explode ;D. Seems that was only the pressure and my head getting used to it :D. After that, everything else was smooth. Now, all I have to do is wait 2 hours for the boarding of the plane. Then, the flight home for about another 2 hours. I am in the airport at the moment and it is quite busy. Not too much to do in the airport I see but wait. It is a good thing I have so much patience ::) ;D.