Topic: The Cookie Box MkII - On stranger tides (Read 3385307 times)

clanky · « **Reply #20550 on:** December 16, 2011, 22:28:36 »

Quote from: danny on December 16, 2011, 21:41:45

I have a question for the cookiebox,
In the UK, you can own and operate a yatch under 24m in lenght, however, is that LOA or LAWL? also, are there any tonnage restrictions? Thanks!

If you mean without a marine qualification then yes there are weight limits as well, so long as it is used for the sport or pleasure of the owner and not for financial gain then anything under 80GT doesn't require a marine qualification, if it is over 24m and under 3000GT than it is also exempt, if it is over 24m and over 3000GT then you need to be qualified to operate it.

Quote from: MCGA

Provided it meets the following requirements a pleasure vessel which is less than 3000 GT has
been exempted from the Merchant Shipping (Safe Manning, Hours of Work and Watchkeeping)
Regulations 1997:
Vessels of â‰¥ 24 metres length and â‰¥ 80 GT should comply with the manning requirements set out
in Merchant Shipping Notice 1802 and Marine Guidance Note and 156 for deck and engineering
requirements respectively.
A vessel < 24 metres length or <80 GT need not comply with the Manning Regulations.

danny · « **Reply #20551 on:** December 16, 2011, 22:37:48 »

So, in theroy, I could buy a small sized cargo vessel of around 50mtrs and be AOK with sailing it around the UK... (as a yatch, obviously) That seems like a accident waiting to happen

Gab · « **Reply #20552 on:** December 16, 2011, 22:45:04 »

From what I understood, no you cannot buy a cargo vessel, nor a 50 meter ship.

A cargo ship, whatever the size, woud be considered 'for financial gain'. So you would need an appropriate certification.

And since your cargo ship would be over 24 meters (and most probably over 3000GT!), you cannot buy/use it without the appropriate certification.

Can anymore confirm this?

danny · « **Reply #20553 on:** December 16, 2011, 22:49:57 »

IF you bought a commercial vessel then converted it to a "exploration yatch" (which basically means you make it like a yatch, but it keeps its looks) and operate it as your personal craft then its classed as a yatch, not being operated for commercial gain...

danny · « **Reply #20554 on:** December 16, 2011, 22:54:25 »

Ok, i've figured it out. Basicaly, anything under 24 mtrs and 80GT you don't need to meet any regs in terms of qaulifications, but anything over 24 mtrs but under 3000 you need to meet crewing req's for engineering and deck. I think?

Gab · « **Reply #20555 on:** December 16, 2011, 22:58:16 »

It still won't respect the restrictions.

Over 24M and 30000GT, you need the certification. Otherwise you cannot own and operate your ship.

In your case, a 50M cargo vessel will most probably has tonnage over 3000. That means you will need a certification.

EDIT: Exactly, you got it

Ballast · « **Reply #20556 on:** December 16, 2011, 23:32:10 »

Quote from: clanky on December 16, 2011, 20:00:39

In Madrid, it's freezing!

Flight here was horrendous, thought I was going to un-eat my lunch at one point.

Not looking forward to getting back on a plane tomorrow, at least Cairo should be warmer.

We've been to Cairo last month to visit the piramides while discharging in Abu Qir

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #20557 on:** December 16, 2011, 23:32:35 »

Alright for some lol

Ballast · « **Reply #20558 on:** December 16, 2011, 23:39:09 »

Hehe, it wasn't alright for the ch.off as he was stuck on the boat while the rest was out there driving camels and being silly tourists

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #20559 on:** December 16, 2011, 23:44:35 »

Quote from: Ballast on December 16, 2011, 23:39:09

Hehe, it wasn't alright for the ch.off as he was stuck on the boat while the rest was out there driving camels and being silly tourists

Ballast · « **Reply #20560 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:25:47 »

Danny!

dexter7 · « **Reply #20561 on:** December 17, 2011, 03:24:54 »

TFM, Can you make that Blender plugin somehow, available to me?

Gab · « **Reply #20562 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:07:22 »

How to moor the Arie Visser safely

It's important to drop the anchor, too.

dexter7 · « **Reply #20563 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:12:24 »

Gab · « **Reply #20564 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:13:54 »

Do you like it?

dexter7 · « **Reply #20565 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:18:06 »

Yeah, That's... Odd?

Rbsanford · « **Reply #20566 on:** December 17, 2011, 05:38:54 »

ime so close to getting banned!

ime the new wave music!

not sure thats a good thing though...

Gab · « **Reply #20567 on:** December 17, 2011, 05:59:31 »

Quote from: Rbsanford on December 17, 2011, 05:38:54

I'm so close to get banned!

I'm the new Wave Music!

I'm not sure [if?] that's a good thing though...

This is certainly not a good thing!

You know what is the problem:

Your lack of effort when you type;
The fact that your posts rarely bring anything to the threads and are very often off topic.

I would like to quote this, you said it a while ago:

Quote

guys! i just like getting alot of posts!

Maybe this is also a part of the problem? You are looking for a lot of posts over the quality of them.

We just kept repeating over and over again, and finally a moderator simply repeated what we told you so many times! At this point, you didn't understand the message, so Mad_Fred had to send you another warning, repeating even more obviously what we all said before... A ban warning shouldn't be a surprize for you at this point! Do you understand now at least?

Rbsanford · « **Reply #20568 on:** December 17, 2011, 06:11:12 »

not quite, mr attitude.

Gab · « **Reply #20569 on:** December 17, 2011, 06:18:30 »

Quote from: Rbsanford on December 17, 2011, 06:11:12

not quite, mr attitude.

Quite exactly, actually...

I don't want to play the moderator, but you should read again what I wrote above, it's just plain facts I'm affraid... $:-\$

Gab · « **Reply #20570 on:** December 17, 2011, 06:29:12 »

Another tutorial pic about how to moor safely the Arie Visser

I'm not sure what are the orange and red triangles...

RYAN123 · « **Reply #20571 on:** December 17, 2011, 07:22:11 »

Going london today going to london dungeons and winter wonderland at 7 am with my mates on a school trip

capt. jack richson · « **Reply #20572 on:** December 17, 2011, 11:01:31 »

Quote from: Gab on December 17, 2011, 06:29:12

Another tutorial pic about how to moor safely the Arie Visser

I'm not sure what are the orange and red triangles...

laser ropes? (for more confidence)

capt. jack richson · « **Reply #20573 on:** December 17, 2011, 11:03:24 »

Quote from: Gab on December 17, 2011, 05:59:31

This is certainly not a good thing!

You know what is the problem:

Your lack of effort when you type;
The fact that your posts rarely bring anything to the threads and are very often off topic.

I would like to quote this, you said it a while ago:Maybe this is also a part of the problem? You are looking for a lot of posts over the quality of them.

We just kept repeating over and over again, and finally a moderator simply repeated what we told you so many times! At this point, you didn't understand the message, so Mad_Fred had to send you another warning, repeating even more obviously what we all said before... A ban warning shouldn't be a surprize for you at this point! Do you understand now at least?

speaking of number of posts i just noticed i made like 15 but in topics on the left it shows Posts: 4
i mean is everything ok here ? the post counter lags from the actual thing

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #20574 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:21:27 »

Quote from: dexter7 on December 17, 2011, 03:24:54

TFM, Can you make that Blender plugin somehow, available to me?

http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php?form_fileid=25903

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