Topic: The Cookie Box MkII - On stranger tides (Read 3385378 times)

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7550 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:50:41 »

Excellent

--tractorman-- · « **Reply #7551 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:52:01 »

Just downloading an update...

14minutes left.. 500mb to go..

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7552 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:52:38 »

For SS?

--tractorman-- · « **Reply #7553 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:54:06 »

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7554 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:58:49 »

Excellent

--tractorman-- · « **Reply #7555 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:59:54 »

Then it's time for some Red Jets for mee, but first..

I'm going to make some...

TOAST

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7556 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:00:48 »

Well if you type the right cheat in you can have it flame grilled too...

clanky · « **Reply #7557 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:03:50 »

Morning guys, I see our favourite troll is not around this morning, I guess he must be at school.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7558 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:06:59 »

Hey Clanky...

School? dn't you think he's a bit young for school...

clanky · « **Reply #7559 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:07:28 »

Quote from: laganviking on July 20, 2010, 22:29:05

If DFDS take more of an interest in the Irish Sea Services than NFL did, i'll eat my hat

No no no wait, i'll go out, buy a hat and then eat it

NFL were starting to really try and make a go of the Irish Sea, the Flanders co. were starting to build the Heysham trade and the Vikings were doing OK out of Liverpool, we will see what DFDS decide to do about it, but IO would not be surprised at all if the answer is to give it a year and if it is still losing money then ditch all Irish sea services.

Although volumes are increasing it will take some time before freight rates go back up again.

clanky · « **Reply #7560 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:08:24 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on July 21, 2010, 10:06:59

Hey Clanky...

School? dn't you think he's a bit young for school...

Yeah, I guess we could be talking kindergarten, if he turns up after lunch we will know for sure!

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7561 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:09:23 »

hehe we will indeed...

what do you think will happen with the NL Rosyth-Zeebrugge route Clanky?

clanky · « **Reply #7562 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:11:48 »

Hard to know, the vessel is chartered in, so when the charter is finished the service could be axed.

Not sure how much EU funding the route has, so that could be a factor as well. It is also theoretically possible that it could become profitable at some point...

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7563 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:13:31 »

Possibly, but it would seem to be in direct competition with the DFDS Newcastle-Amsterdam route, which uses two cruise ferries, which I assume will be less economically value, but they have two ships... definelty a hard call, but would be a shame to seee the route close, NL were doing ok, from what I gather

clanky · « **Reply #7564 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:17:04 »

The ship that NFL have on the run, for all it's horribleness is very fuel efficient which will keep the costs down at least, I don't know what the freight rates are like, but if they can build up the trade then I guess it could work, although generally speaking you would need a daily (two ship) service to really make it work and I am not sure if there will ever be enough trade for that.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7565 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:32:28 »

I think Superfast (who operated ot before NL) tried a two-ship service, but they reduced it to one ship service.

--tractorman-- · « **Reply #7566 on:** July 21, 2010, 11:23:30 »

clanky · « **Reply #7567 on:** July 21, 2010, 11:33:37 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on July 21, 2010, 10:32:28

I think Superfast (who operated ot before NL) tried a two-ship service, but they reduced it to one ship service.

Yeah, although there were other factors in that, Superfast's business plan was always to find a route, get an EU subsidy for the first two years "to pay for the set up costs", operate the route for two years and then disappear.

The Scottish Viking (or Scottish Seaways???) is a more suitable ship for the run than the superfast ships ever were, as much as I despise those Vissentini ships they are fast, fuel efficient and reasonably good sea boats; depending on the charter rate which they have agreed with the owners they could make the route profitable, but hauliers really want a daily service and unless they can build up enough trade to make the run profitable with 2 ships then they will struggle to keep it going long term.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7568 on:** July 21, 2010, 11:35:37 »

Lets hope they can get a suitable second ship in then

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7569 on:** July 21, 2010, 11:40:47 »

trialguy · « **Reply #7570 on:** July 21, 2010, 16:31:50 »

hey guys!
how is it going?

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7571 on:** July 21, 2010, 16:32:20 »

Hey trial Guy

Ralphy · « **Reply #7572 on:** July 21, 2010, 16:52:41 »

I havn't seen Jack on this in a while. is he away somewhere?

trialguy · « **Reply #7573 on:** July 21, 2010, 16:53:50 »

you mean
Irishjack?

yes he is still here...not right now..

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #7574 on:** July 21, 2010, 17:03:13 »

Hmm...

They've gone...

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