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Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4400 on:** February 13, 2010, 21:43:05 »

I find that physics teach story of the bloke bounding a football on a train... he sees it up and down, where as the bloke on the platform sees it bouncing 100 yds....

Silly example...

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4401 on:** February 13, 2010, 21:45:14 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on February 13, 2010, 21:43:05

I find that physics teach story of the bloke bounding a football on a train... he sees it up and down, where as the bloke on the platform sees it bouncing 100 yds....

Silly example...

hehe in one book diplomatic negotions take place on a train, when the light goes on, it has to reach both sides at the same time...

A person on the platform informs them that it reaches the one first...

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4402 on:** February 13, 2010, 21:48:42 »

Yes, but those are silly examples...

If one were to say the starship galactica, driven by darth invader, had a light shining on it, whilst going into megadrive, and po spaceferries were cruising along at walking pace nearby, who would sea what light at what time and date and at what location...

Its this abandonment of absolute time.... Problem is, most people (I am included) know it only by parrotting what our physics teacher say, without REALLY understanding it..

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4403 on:** February 13, 2010, 21:50:49 »

To be honest, i doubt your physics teachers really know...

Time is a strange thing... what is time really?

It is considered the forth dimension, after x,y,z and these are spatial coordinates, so is time a length?

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4404 on:** February 13, 2010, 21:54:59 »

Another mathematical fudge, really...

Yes though you are right. Physics teachers don't know... they seem to know only what is printed in the guardian.

I don't really know... But I know enough to KNOW I don't Know... Where as most people don't know enough to know their own limitations.

It is called competent incometence opposed to incompetent incompetence.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4405 on:** February 13, 2010, 21:57:43 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on February 13, 2010, 21:54:59

Another mathematical fudge, really...

Yes though you are right. Physics teachers don't know... they seem to know only what is printed in the guardian.

I don't really know... But I know enough to KNOW I don't Know... Where as most people don't know enough to know their own limitations.

It is called competent incometence opposed to incompetent incompetence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtkUO8NpI84

Sums it up I think

Course If you believe in string theory, there are about 10/11 dimensions, which may be curled up around each other...

LucAtC · « **Reply #4406 on:** February 13, 2010, 22:48:00 »

The question is indeed about belief, one of the conclusions of the special relativity theory (in French, restricted) is that no energy can go at a velocity higher than EM waves, in order to satisfy the axiom at the start, that the speed of light is the same for all observers, whatever their movement. It seems to have been abundantly proved, even if it doesn't answer some questions. But the theory seems to be operationally fully reliable.

General relativity is more an essay to understand the substance of matter (if one can say so), and the applications are at best speculations as the theory doesn't fit special relativity. But it also launched a great part of modern physics. Disagreements gave birth to quantum mechanics and many derived applications and theories. Unfortunately, the original question about gravitation and of the universe fabrics remains completely unsolved.

A pleasant site of a physicist exasperated by the conformism of the true believers!

Regards,
Luc

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4407 on:** February 13, 2010, 23:11:45 »

Yes, but WHY should it be the same... It makes no sense to the 'physical' world... I accept that this is true, but to understand WHY...

EDIT: Reading some of that site now, Luc...

If no one sees me again, assume my brain gave up and went on holiday without me..

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4408 on:** February 17, 2010, 18:00:44 »

I agree Curved Edged Wave Music...

edit: Give me a Chance to write...

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4409 on:** February 17, 2010, 18:06:50 »

I did...

But you were too fast for me...

Wave Music · « **Reply #4410 on:** February 18, 2010, 19:28:54 »

Haven't seen our dear old (I guess so) friend - KapnJonah - here for a long time...

McGherkin · « **Reply #4411 on:** February 18, 2010, 19:30:04 »

Or Season...

Wave Music · « **Reply #4412 on:** February 18, 2010, 19:38:11 »

Or:

Agent/Austin
Capn_cal
MMM
Gloat
shipfan55

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4413 on:** February 18, 2010, 19:47:00 »

I think some of those names have been banned... (at least 3 I think)

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4414 on:** February 18, 2010, 19:51:17 »

Quote from: Wave Music on February 18, 2010, 19:38:11

Or:

Agent/Austin
Capn_cal
MMM
Gloat
shipfan55

Or another person who has gone, but shall remain nameless...

Wave Music · « **Reply #4415 on:** February 18, 2010, 19:54:59 »

You mean TerryRussel?

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4416 on:** February 18, 2010, 19:59:26 »

WM, what part- exactly- of 'remain namelss' don't you understand?

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4417 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:00:35 »

Anyway how is everyone this fine evening?

Wave Music · « **Reply #4418 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:01:04 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on February 18, 2010, 19:59:26

WM, what part- exactly- of 'remain namelss' don't you understand?

I think "namelss" - never heard such word before.

Wave Music · « **Reply #4419 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:04:15 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on February 18, 2010, 20:00:35

Anyway how is everyone this fine evening?

Very good.

Downloading Modern Talking's albums as a someone's request.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4420 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:06:15 »

Excellemnt

So who/what is Modern Talking?

Wave Music · « **Reply #4421 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:09:04 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on February 18, 2010, 20:06:15

So who/what is Modern Talking?

I think I leave that for Stuart... I just can't find any proper words to describe your retardation.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #4422 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:09:47 »

Oh...

Thanks...

Very Helpful...

$:-\$

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4423 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:11:46 »

Quote from: Wave Music on February 18, 2010, 20:01:04

I think "namelss" - never heard such word before.

Well spotted!

I think I'll hav to giv you that on, as the key between w and r is clarly not working proprly.

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #4424 on:** February 18, 2010, 20:12:41 »

Quote from: Wave Music on February 18, 2010, 20:09:04

I think I leave that for Stuart... I just can't find any proper words to describe your retardation.

I can, but I promisd mad frd that i wouldn't us such languag again.

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