Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => Topic started by: Titanic14 on August 27, 2010, 13:33:06
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Hi there guys, I've just aquired a Ship Simulator Extremes Copy and I found out the game is running very slow, about 16fps....
I don't understand why...
Specs:
Windows Vista Home Premium x64
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2,40Ghz
Ati Radeon HD 5750 1GB DDR5
3GBRam
Thx for possible solutions...
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Running many other Programms?
Updated your graphic card drivers?
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Hi there Titanic14,
Welcome to the forums :)
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I will then move this thread to the technical support board :)
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maybe not a good proccesor or bad video/Graphics cards
And if you have shipsim 2008 on your computer you may want to delete it cuz it may take up room
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A 5750 and a quad core cpu is more then enough for this game so that cant really be the problem.
The only thing i can think of is the memory, you have a 64 bit OS so you might want to update it to like 8gb.
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Removing Ship Simulator 2008 will not have any effect unless you have a very small amount of hard drive space left :)
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maybe not a good proccesor or bad video/Graphics cards
And if you have shipsim 2008 on your computer you may want to delete it cuz it may take up room
And in your case perhaps learn 2 read man... :doh:
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Hi there guys, I've just aquired a Ship Simulator Extremes Copy and I found out the game is running very slow, about 16fps....
I don't understand why...
Specs:
Windows Vista Home Premium x64
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2,40Ghz
Ati Radeon HD 5750 1GB DDR5
3GBRam
Thx for possible solutions...
Very very slow here, also, with 3.2 processor, 64 bit, 4 gb Ram, massive HDDs.I'm looking at the graphics settings to see what can be done to help. Also have been running with Game Booster to see if cutting all the start up progs helps - but it doesn't improve.
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I have a Core I7 2.8 GHz, 8 GB RAM, Geforce GTX 285, 2 SSD drives in RAID and Windows 7 64 bit. Without AA and AF I get between 20 and 35 fps at 1680x1050.
I just think SSE is insanely demanding or maybe just poorly programmed?
SS08 was also very demanding on my system.
In many of my other games I get between 80 and 200 fps with same settings.
I have no other programs running. I just installed the latest drivers and have just reinstalled Windows a few days ago, so it is not the problem.
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How do you count frame rate?
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Titanic14, I have a couple of suggestions for you. I run a very simular setup to yours. I think the biggest problem is your CPU. We are both at least 1-2 generations behind the I-7 proc. So you need to make trade-offs. look at the Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic settings on your video card. Dial them down a bit and you will see an increase in frame rate. VSTEP has added sooo much to this version of SS that there is just a LOT of graphics overhead. I run a bunch of Sims, Flight Sim X, MS Train Sim, SSE, rfactor racing. They all have to be adjusted because of their eye candy.
My setup:
Dell XPS 720 H2C, Intel QX6700 3.8Ghz, 4 GB RAM, 2 Nvidia 8800GTX OC's in SLI running 3 Samsung 24" Monitors by way of a Matrox Triple-Head-to-Go Digital version, 6TB of Hard Drives.
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Titanic14, I have a couple of suggestions for you. I run a very simular setup to yours. I think the biggest problem is your CPU. We are both at least 1-2 generations behind the I-7 proc. So you need to make trade-offs. look at the Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic settings on your video card. Dial them down a bit and you will see an increase in frame rate. VSTEP has added sooo much to this version of SS that there is just a LOT of graphics overhead. I run a bunch of Sims, Flight Sim X, MS Train Sim, SSE, rfactor racing. They all have to be adjusted because of their eye candy.
My setup:
Dell XPS 720 H2C, Intel QX6700 3.8Ghz, 4 GB RAM, 2 Nvidia 8800GTX OC's in SLI running 3 Samsung 24" Monitors by way of a Matrox Triple-Head-to-Go Digital version, 6TB of Hard Drives.
Well, a trade-off in his case is not a good deal, because the I7 platform has nothing to do with the Intel 775 platform, maybe in his case not even the RAM should be usable, since its DDR2.
The processor is fine, the graphic card too, I have a lower graphic card and CPU, and it runs smoother.
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Sorry guys, same problems here. Unplayable, fraps 7. Quad 4 processor, Geforce 8800GT. Ook een minder gebruiksvriendelijke interface. ik heb nog niets gezien wat deze nieuwe (behoorlijk dure) versie toevoegt aan versie 2008. Ik denk dat ik mijn geld ga terugvragen.
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Well, a trade-off in his case is not a good deal, because the I7 platform has nothing to do with the Intel 775 platform, maybe in his case not even the RAM should be usable, since its DDR2.
The processor is fine, the graphic card too, I have a lower graphic card and CPU, and it runs smoother.
I don't follow your logic. The trade-offs I am talking about are in settings, not hardware. My processor is from the same generation as his, one model up. I know the I7 is not the same platfoem as a socket 775. I'm not talking about changing hardware, I'm talking about changing settings on his graphics card.
Maybe yours runs smoother because of the AA and Anisotropic settings?
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Titanic14, I have a couple of suggestions for you. I run a very simular setup to yours. I think the biggest problem is your CPU. We are both at least 1-2 generations behind the I-7 proc. So you need to make trade-offs. look at the Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic settings on your video card. Dial them down a bit and you will see an increase in frame rate. VSTEP has added sooo much to this version of SS that there is just a LOT of graphics overhead. I run a bunch of Sims, Flight Sim X, MS Train Sim, SSE, rfactor racing. They all have to be adjusted because of their eye candy.
My setup:
Dell XPS 720 H2C, Intel QX6700 3.8Ghz, 4 GB RAM, 2 Nvidia 8800GTX OC's in SLI running 3 Samsung 24" Monitors by way of a Matrox Triple-Head-to-Go Digital version, 6TB of Hard Drives.
Hi there! My Ati Graphics Settings, are set to balanced...
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I don't follow your logic. The trade-offs I am talking about are in settings, not hardware. My processor is from the same generation as his, one model up. I know the I7 is not the same platfoem as a socket 775. I'm not talking about changing hardware, I'm talking about changing settings on his graphics card.
Maybe yours runs smoother because of the AA and Anisotropic settings?
Sorry, I misunderstood trade-offs :doh: Now that I read it again, you were talking about "playing" with the software settings.
Mine is running smoother, but I don't have any of the AA and Anisotropic options activated in the drivers.
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Sorry, I misunderstood trade-offs :doh: Now that I read it again, you were talking about "playing" with the software settings.
Mine is running smoother, but I don't have any of the AA and Anisotropic options activated in the drivers.
lool. I don't understand why mine is working like that, my pc is not bad.
PS:Podes falar portugues eles nao notam :P, tens xfire?
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ok here is my DXDiag what all do i need to run SSE becasue i will save more money im already getting a procceser this christmas. so what else will i need??
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I'm also having issues running SSE, which kinda blows considering I have just installed a Geforce 9800GTX. I've dialed the settings to low, and my game is sill very choppy.
I'd like to know what the developers were running when they made the gameplay videos.
I run a c2d 2.4ghz, 3gb ram, single tb hdd, and the 9800GTX. Windows XP Pro.
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lool. I don't understand why mine is working like that, my pc is not bad.
PS:Podes falar portugues eles nao notam :P, tens xfire?
Não tenho xfire, mas podes mandar PM, que se eu souber, ajudo! :2thumbs: "Eles" não gostam que se fale outra lÃngua que não inglês aqui.
English: Titanic14, you can PM me, if I can help, I will. Its better to speak in English here.
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ok here is my DXDiag what all do i need to run SSE becasue i will save more money im already getting a procceser this christmas. so what else will i need??
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My setup:
Dell XPS 720 H2C, Intel QX6700 3.8Ghz, 4 GB RAM, 2 Nvidia 8800GTX OC's in SLI running 3 Samsung 24" Monitors by way of a Matrox Triple-Head-to-Go Digital version, 6TB of Hard Drives.
:thumbs: i have the same system, tho i have upgraded to vista 32, 8gigs of ram and dual 250gts's and stuffed in a TB drive just for games.
i get SSE running nicely maxed out at 1920x1200 on my dell widescreen...
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ok here is my DXDiag what all do i need to run SSE becasue i will save more money im already getting a procceser this christmas. so what else will i need??
Your videocard might need some upgrading too :)
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ok let go over my list so far ::)
Procceser.
Graphics card
Anything else?
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Sorry, I misunderstood trade-offs :doh: Now that I read it again, you were talking about "playing" with the software settings.
Mine is running smoother, but I don't have any of the AA and Anisotropic options activated in the drivers.
I have noticed a pretty big difference when I turn off the AA and AS settings on my cards. I think I am going to have to scope out an I7 though. My QX6700 was and Intel 'Extreme' series and has lasted 3+ years. That is a loooong time for a CPU!
The game is still quit playable either way....and so far it is everything that I hoped it would be... :2thumbs:
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ok let go over my list so far ::)
Procceser.
Graphics card
Anything else?
You would also have to look at the Speed and type of both your memory (RAM) and your HD speeds. My System has a real good processor, but the choke point for me is my matched set of 800Mhz memory. It can make a big difference. Hard drive speed is a big deal also. Moving up from a 5400rpm drive to a 7200 or even a 10K drive will yeild a noticable difference....
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oh yeah i have a 2.2GHZ Procceser with 2 CPUs is tht to low shouldnt it clock to like a 4.1 or something like tht and i ran very low FPS on ss08 i mean VERY low
You would also have to look at the Speed and type of both your memory (RAM) and your HD speeds. My System has a real good processor, but the choke point for me is my matched set of 800Mhz memory. It can make a big difference. Hard drive speed is a big deal also. Moving up from a 5400rpm drive to a 7200 or even a 10K drive will yeild a noticable difference....
so ill have to get a new hardrive? might as well get a new kicka$$ PC but that might cost to much i dont know and how do i look at the speed of my RAM and stuff like that?
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:thumbs: i have the same system, tho i have upgraded to vista 32, 8gigs of ram and dual 250gts's and stuffed in a TB drive just for games.
i get SSE running nicely maxed out at 1920x1200 on my dell widescreen...
Nice! Where you are beating me is you have double the RAM and you have a newer set of cards than I do. What I may do is update the graphics cards on mine. The problem is I am running a 750 watt PSU. I have a 1K Watt PSU but it is a bitch to pull everything apart, especially the H2C unit. I know because originally my system was a Dell XPS-710. Dell sent me the update kit which included the H2C. It was 8 hours from start to finish to swap out the motherboard and add all of the other stuff. If I add newer cards I will have to put in the beefier PSU...
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oh yeah i have a 2.2GHZ Procceser with 2 CPUs is tht to low shouldnt it clock to like a 4.1 or something like tht and i ran very low FPS on ss08 i mean VERY low
so ill have to get a new hardrive? might as well get a new kicka$$ PC but that might cost to much i dont know and how do i look at the speed of my RAM and stuff like that?
You should be able to google the make and model of your hard drives and RAM. If you go into device manager you should be able to find out some info. If your system is a turn-key system, go out to the manufacturer's site, and they should have all of the info that you need.
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hmm while yo ere posting tht i made discovery well kinda i called my friend up and he knows a dude tht can get me all i need for like 100$ and i figured out its the same guy who helped me get a virus of my PC HA HA so i just need to print out the specs i need and he can do it all for me for like 100$ i just hope he dont jack up my memory and delete every thing
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oh yeah i have a 2.2GHZ Procceser with 2 CPUs is tht to low shouldnt it clock to like a 4.1 or something like tht and i ran very low FPS on ss08 i mean VERY low
so ill have to get a new hardrive? might as well get a new kicka$$ PC but that might cost to much i dont know and how do i look at the speed of my RAM and stuff like that?
It depends on the type of Proc and the motherboard. You need both to be able to overclock. Some Intel processors are locked at their rates. The Extreme series is not and therefor o/c'able. As far as the RAM goes, again you need to find out what your mother board will allow you to use. Hard Drive can be upgraded regardless of the motherboard type, usually. Same with the Graphics card, Those would probably be a good place to start, especailly the graphics card...
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hmm while yo ere posting tht i made discovery well kinda i called my friend up and he knows a dude tht can get me all i need for like 100$ and i figured out its the same guy who helped me get a virus of my PC HA HA so i just need to print out the specs i need and he can do it all for me for like 100$ i just hope he dont jack up my memory and delete every thing
If he is replacing the hard drive you just need to copy the contents from your existing drive to the new drive. Acronis or Ghost can do it automatically for you...
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ok swwet so whene i get it all upgraded i can have them do it
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Nice! Where you are beating me is you have double the RAM and you have a newer set of cards than I do. What I may do is update the graphics cards on mine. The problem is I am running a 750 watt PSU. I have a 1K Watt PSU but it is a bitch to pull everything apart, especially the H2C unit. I know because originally my system was a Dell XPS-710. Dell sent me the update kit which included the H2C. It was 8 hours from start to finish to swap out the motherboard and add all of the other stuff. If I add newer cards I will have to put in the beefier PSU...
I have the KW psu in mine, but like you i am looking to go to a better CPU, my issue is that im more afraid of taking the whole thing apart and not geting it back together.. i guess im going to have to look around for someone who can do it..
I duno about you but i have had an issue with the cooling on the new cards- my video cards are always running hot, to the extent that i have the side open and have a small household fan blowing in it during gaming.. the OE cards never had this issue.
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I don´t know, I get the feeling that the game is very poorly optimised!
I consider a purchase, since I own Ship Sim 2008 and I loved it, but I don´t know if the new one is going to run good on my system. I don´t have any problems running the game in 1024*768 resolution.
AMD Dualcore 5000+
ATI 4670 HD 512 Mb
Win7 32-bit
4gb Ram
Should I buy or skip it?
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Here. Everoyne that is having troubles try downloading this. It cleans out space on your ram and minimizes applications that are running and you don't know about. I run Hudizzle's Virtual Sailor Titanic final version on 15-20 FPS with interior on Shaded water but without it it's 9-12. But I have no idea how it will work with SSE.
http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html (http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html)
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After reading the various posts on this subject, I feel not so much in a hurry to get a new computer..
To use an analogy: no need to rush to the dealer for a new Ferrari, when my trusty Fiat will do fine (I hope ;) )
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No problem here!
Game runs smooth (better than ship sim 2008) on my pc.
Windows 7Ultimate x64
CPU: Q9550 Core 2 Quad @ 2.83GHz
Mobo: ASUS P5QC
Ram:8Gb - DDR2 - 800
GPU: Nvida GTX285
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My "Fiat" meets the requirements to a T..
XP, P4 3Ghz, 8800GT, 3 Gb RAM.. So,fingers crossed.. ;)
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After reading a few topics regarding SSE performance, FPS etc and I see that some folks with better CPU and graphic cards than mine, has got me a wee bit worried.
I just hope my PC would be able to handle SSE okay when I install it.
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Well i bought this game... and what a dissapointment... I got Q9000, 4GB DDR3, 1 TB, GF 130m,w7 64bit, and the game is unplayable... i can run starcraft to maxed out, i can run fsx maxed out .... BUT i CANT RUN THIS game ?!?! Poor design... can anyone tell me if i can ask for my money back cuz its riddiciolous...
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Once you've loaded the simulator, the hard drive is not that big a deal anymore. It's done its job. The problem is in the session, while in the boat. The waves are pretty, the boats are pretty, but there is something wrong with the code of the software or the video drivers out right now.
I have an i7-930, 6GB memory, and an ATI 5870 1GB, running 64 bit win7 and I am not getting the smoothest of performance. If I put it to 4X AA or more its very choppy.
I think we may be some patches, or drivers away before this gets smoothed out for some of us.
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I just read the manual and they say that the game is perfectly playable with bigger ships when having 13-15 fps. Now that is a joke! They already state in their manual that the game runs choppy!
A game like this shouldn´t have such high requirements, it´s even more demanding than Crysis! That´s what you get when you use a poor graphics engine as this Questviewer, it´s not developed to show graphics like this and therefore it needs more processing power than other engines. Just a terrible engine!
So, until they haven´t fixed the performance, it´s a no buy for me!
Very very poor job!
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I just read the manual and they say that the game is perfectly playable with bigger ships when having 13-15 fps. Now that is a joke! They already state in their manual that the game runs choppy!
A game like this shouldn´t have such high requirements, it´s even more demanding than Crysis! That´s what you get when you use a poor graphics engine as this Questviewer, it´s not developed to show graphics like this and therefore it needs more processing power than other engines. Just a terrible engine!
So, until they haven´t fixed the performance, it´s a no buy for me!
Very very poor job!
well said .. so far game not recommended
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I agree with u. I'm very angry because I love ships, and this game is unplayable in my pc. I don't understand...
I can play Mafia II Maxed Out,Kane and Lynch 2,Dirt 2 etc... I don't really understand why is SSE working like rubish...
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:thumbs: i have the same system, tho i have upgraded to vista 32, 8gigs of ram and dual 250gts's and stuffed in a TB drive just for games.
i get SSE running nicely maxed out at 1920x1200 on my dell widescreen...
You have some spare memory in there since Vista 32bit supports only maximum of 4 gigs of memory minus gfx cards mem, so Vista 32bit can handle usually just 3 gigs of memory. :)
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Can i ask you guys what you are using to check fps?
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ok here is my DXDiag what all do i need to run SSE becasue i will save more money im already getting a procceser this christmas. so what else will i need??
u are missing 1GB of Ram
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Can i ask you guys what you are using to check fps?
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a program Called Fraps...
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how many Gb do i need
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u need 3GB cause u use Vista(or Windows 7 ???but not XP)
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how do i get more gb delete stuff?
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how do i get more gb delete stuff?
lol ... RAM is a computers memomry fixed to the motherboard... you have to upgrade it (buy more) cost around £30
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oooohhhhh ok :doh: ok so the proceser graphics card and more RAM are on the list now if i cant get my PC fully upgraded this cristmas
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You have some spare memory in there since Vista 32bit supports only maximum of 4 gigs of memory minus gfx cards mem, so Vista 32bit can handle usually just 3 gigs of memory. :)
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i meant to say 64 bit... i think i have to check my posts more carefully before the button is pressed :doh:
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Any word from the devs about the terrible performance of their game? Or do they reply at all at this forum?
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Hi Eraser74,
Devlopers have a lot to do (as I'm sure you can imagine) but they sometimes pop on the forum although it is kinda rare.
Most of the time information such as that is passed onto staff members such as myself, to relay onto you as we deal with the forum :)
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Hi there guys, I've just aquired a Ship Simulator Extremes Copy and I found out the game is running very slow, about 16fps....
I don't understand why...
Specs:
Windows Vista Home Premium x64
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2,40Ghz
Ati Radeon HD 5750 1GB DDR5
3GBRam
Thx for possible solutions...
Well they state in the manual that a Radeon HD 5850 is the minimum system requirement! Below all that they don´t guarantee that the game works well.
But of course that is way to high for minimum sys requirements, so I think they should at least try to optimise the disgrace that is Questviewer.
Edit: OK, I was wrong the minimum graphics card is a 4850 with 256 mb ram. But the game won´t run with those cards. It´s system requirements are WAY to high.
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Well i bought this game... and what a dissapointment... I got Q9000, 4GB DDR3, 1 TB, GF 130m,w7 64bit, and the game is unplayable... i can run starcraft to maxed out, i can run fsx maxed out .... BUT i CANT RUN THIS game ?!?! Poor design... can anyone tell me if i can ask for my money back cuz its riddiciolous...
GT130M is not a very powerful card but SSE is running very well on my older 8800 GTS 640mb with E7400@3.15GHz 4Gb ram and SSD 40Go. So, you should check your driver's options (AA, Aniso, Occlusion...)
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I have had no problems with my ship simulator, I run SSE on 8GB or Ram, HD Radeon 5750 and also an 8-Core processor. :D
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You blew a little dust from this topic as the last post has been made 3 years ago. ;)
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MrRoboville, I think you have missed one word of him you answer. He is just telling that he has no problem with SSE.
I have had no problems with my ship simulator...
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Oh wait... :doh:
Tiny words....
Thanks for the notice! I shall fix my previous message.
Makes me wonder the importance of reviving this thread though.
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i need some help ship simulator extremes runs slow
here is my pc specs
Proccesor: Pentium 4 3.20ghz
RAM:3,00 GB
Video Card: Nvidia 7300 256mb ram ??? ??? :)
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i need some help ship simulator extremes runs slow
here is my pc specs
Processor: Pentium 4 3.20ghz
RAM:3,00 GB
Video Card: Nvidia 7300 256mb ram ??? ??? :)
Without doubt its your 7 year old video card. Plus the CPU is only just over the minimum requirements.
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Can anyone say how i can fix that
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To be honest, you really do need a new computer to run SSE. However, it potentially will cost a lot of money.
if all you want to do is drive ships. Another idea is to cut your losses and buy a copy of Ship Simulator 2008, It is just as good as SSE and arguably has better game-play than the current version with a wider variety of playable ships, more downloadable missions and more in-game IA traffic. It would be perfect for your current machine.
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For what it's worth, I'm amazed at the hardware still being used by a lot of folk here.
Nearly all the complaints come from folk with hardware from many years ago.
Old video cards and ancient procs!
Some of the GPUs used by those complaining of slow/choppy speeds are years old and a little searching on the web will show the FPS of these are way down compared with later models.
Sure older games will render smoother, that's to be expected, these older cards were made for older games.
These days with more and more data and coding being used means, unfortunately, that one must update hardware. SSE Extremes is right up there with the top 3D games and to experience it's beauty and gameplay one must use "proper" GPU cards. And just because a GPU is new does not mean it is sufficient. It must be powerful as well. In Australia you would be expecting to pay around $400 for such a card.
You will be amazed at the difference.